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cont.

He talks about how Hungary differs and why Hungary doesn't collapse unlike the EU. I don't think it's important for us much, he is basically fluffing the Fidesz govt. policies. The context is: the opposition wants to take it all away - as goes the Fidesz campaign message.

Europe doesn't try to reform the system (to concentric Europe), they try to keep the current up. They take on loans to keep financing this. The name of this process is "Common Indebtedness". They pull everyone into debt so this common debt keeps the debtors together - keeping the EU together. He says the United States of America was created this way - the Hamilton Moment, see these:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/georgecalhoun/2020/05/26/europes-hamiltonian-moment--what-is-it-really/
https://www.ofce.sciences-po.fr/blog/a-second-hamiltonian-moment/
And they think - Orbán continues - that the best tool for the mutual indebtedness is Ukraine. This is the reason they can sell the easiest to each member state. The war and the Ukrainian EU membership will create this debt, since no money for these.
Orbán opposes this. Not just for the debt, but this will enter us into the war in the most literal sense.

Because of this in the next years:
- The EU will remain marginal.
- Germany tries to dismantle their welfare state, but this will result in government crisis so no govt will be able to do anything
- The undermining of Democracy will continue, he brings the example of Le Pen in France and AfD in Germany. They'll prevent rivals to run or govern.
- Due to multiculti and islamisation in the west the concept of the unity of legal system ends, since they are getting sharia, next to the original legal systems. The public order will dissolve.

He lists what should have been done. I don't think this is interesting much for us. It's like: create the Lisbon-Vladivostok market union, don't let the muslims in, don't let Britain leave, etc.
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cont.

The War.
He tries to draw up the goals of participants. His interpretations as he puts it.
The key to understand the war: a process is going down, where the global market turns into competing regional markets, blocks, great power politics returns.
The leaders of the EU think: if they can strengthen the central bureaucracy of the EU, then the EU can be a leading power. He says this is false and mistake, but it will result in centralization. 
Russian goal: restrict Western influence growth
Chinese goal: change the US dominated world order into a multipolar one, privileged access to Russia's economy for China
Ukrainian goal: avoid economc collapse by getting more Western funds, without it the Ukrainian state would go bankrupt within a day
European goal: keep Ukrainian military capabilities on, keep the US in the conflict
US goal: this is going under a change from Biden to Trump, make trade agreements with Russia, subordinate EU to US economically.

The EU is a lame duck while this war is on. The EU is totally reliant on US military help, we are defenseless. And since EU can't defend itself, it can't enact independent economic policies (see tariff negotiations).
Europe should make a security agreement with Moscow. Not just for herself, but for Ukraine too.
Europe also can't open towards China and India, for the Ukraine war is the reference point. Can't make trade agreements with them while accusing them financing Russia and the war.
Continuation of the war is a losing European strategy.
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cont.

After this he talks about Hungarian events, politics.
Choices:
- join the Brusselsian politics as the opposition suggests, get Euro and such, give Ukraine money, let them into EU, abolish all Fidesz policies - the campaign message is that the opposition is run by Brussels;
- keep at the Fidesz model they built in ten years and continue;
Related to this he describes their campaign program essentially:
- state based on work;
- common market but national economic policies;
- staying out of the war;
- staying out of the common debt;
- no Euro - he doesn't say this within the list but when he summarizes it;
- no to EU membership for Ukraine, just strategic partnership;
- national energy policies;
- rejecting migration;
- no to open society;
- child protection;
- V4 reorganization;
- special relations with US, China, Russia.

He talks about targeted economic policies they enacted. I won't type in these.
Ah they're gonna make "national consultation" again.

That's about it. Shit. I wrote way more than I intended.
Ursula wonder Lyin' is giving an evaluation speech of the past year today... I'm sure it'll be great. Her approval rate dropped to like 25% or something. 75% of EU citizens (as per 5 countries opinion poll says) want her gone.
Meanwhile new French PM Lecornu has no idea how he'll form a government.
 >>/54644/
She started out great:
> erry tiem they told me EU is not capable of doing things
> covid, supporting Ukraine, energy security
> but erry tiem we made it
1. EU covid handling was ineffective, and frankly not even EU's competence but the states'
2. most support was given by the US still highly questionable if EU can do it alone
3. energy security is nowhere in sight, EU pays way more than anyone for energy as well
So yeah. A past failure, a current unsure but probably failure, and a future unknown (but probably failure). And according to her We Made It!
She says "Russia's war, Russia should pay". Her plan:
1. the basis of financing Ukraine will be the mobilized Russian assets
2. "with the cash balances associated to there Russian assets" EU can provide Ukraine with a reparations loan
3. the assets themselves won't be touched
4. the risk will have to be carried collectively
5. Ukraine will only pay back, once Russia pays for the reparations
What. The. Fuck.
So if I understand it correctly:
EU will pay Ukraine and Ukraine will pay it back when Russia pays. Nothing will happen the mobilized Russian assets.
My guess: Europe will never see this money.
Bonus content: the money has to be financed by every member state of the EU as per #4
I love it.
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> we are on the path of energy independence
> we know what drove prices up: dependency on Russian fossil fuels
1. Russian fossil fuels were the cheapest solution for Europe. Literally just flowing through the pipes.
2. We switched to US LNG and Chinese solar panels. Shackles to chains, or reverse.
How can one person lie so shamelessly and daring? Or she does really live in an alternative fantasy.
Seriously. One can debate if what Orbán says makes sens or not. And the Fidesz govt. lie all day about obscure data they present in various ways to make it look a good thing when it's bad. But this shamelessly telling blatant lies, which literally "the sky is green, the grass is blue"... this... goddam.
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We're getting parenting advice.
> I firmly believe that parents not algorithms should raise our children
> so we will tell social media what they can display to kids
Yeah, like just don't give smartphones to kids. Or if they really want to give them phones so they can be called any time, do it with simple mobiles.
And use that damn parenting filter the router has n shiet.
This is not parenting. This is giving the responsibility of parenting to people and organizations who shouldn't do the parenting, like social media.
And here it is  >>/54648/
https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-frozen-russian-assets-war-in-ukraine/
They can't take Russia's frozen assets so they issue bonds (= take loans) and they pretend this money backs it by allowing Ukraine to pay it back when Russians pay war reparations for Ukraine.
I bet Orbán is right here:  >>/54634/ they are planning to indebt all the member states on purpose. They play on the "Ukraine will win" angle and that they can force Russia to pay somehow, while they know very well this is a mirage.
The Patriots party block initiated no confidence vote against our dear Ursula. The Left supports it. The current leading block is attacked from the both sides, not just for different but opposing reasons...
After her speech some MEPs could tell their opinion and the leftist lady was very belligerent, shrieked like a furie dont mistake this with furry, this is from Greek-Roman mythology.
What's gonna happen if they succeed? I've no idea. I don't think there is anyone they could agree on. Not sure if no leadership would be worse than what we have now.
https://www.politico.eu/article/ursula-von-der-leyen-eu-no-confidence-motions-scheduled-for-early-october/
Draghi says there is no money for the EU to fix the economy. According our Ursula taking on loan and giving it to Ukraine will fix everything.

In other news USA lifts the visa barrier for Hungarian citizens, because we are good boys who defend our borders and check who enters. Biden admin enacted it for whatever probably we were bad boys for some reason or another.
I wonder if the US can make an offer that the Orbán govt can spin as gains in return of cutting gas and oil bought from Russia.
https://www.politico.eu/article/italy-mep-ilaria-salis-immunity-vote-brussels-hungary/
> Salis, 40, was arrested in February 2023 at a far-right rally in Budapest. She was charged with attempted assault on a far-right activist and was accused of being part of an extreme left-wing organization. She was also accused of brandishing a hammer in the attack, a claim she has always denied
Lol. She was part of an organized crew of antifas who traveled to Hungary in order to attack nazis (I think there was a memorial for the attempt of breaking the siege of Budapest in WWII, they do this every year, or did for a long time) then they ended up beating some rando older dude in military style clothing.
I'm not sure where the legal procedure was when she was saved by the immunity how she was even allowed to run as a MEP candidate it's beyond me, I did not follow it closely.

I see this as part of what I wrote here:  >>/54652/ related to Charlie Kirk. Individuals waging their own private wars because they think they can - and it's getting proven right now that they can.
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Was thinking about the erratic behaviour of Trump when it comes to Russia and the conflict in Ukraine. He goes round and round bashing and polishing all the participants alternately, Ukraine, EU and co., Russia...
Some call this "pendulum" as he swings back and forth between the two poles, from the nice words and everything great to the blaming and harsh words.
Only the "not my war biden war never have happened if i was in power i gave the javelins i helped the most" mantra is the same. But this is the least relevant part to anything, just noise, just fogging up the lense.
What he is doing is the Persuasion policy, the carrot and the stick. On everyone, but first and foremost on Russia.
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Look at this again:  >>/54523/
Russia is perceived an enemy and, such as Iran, is treated as an enemy.
First and foremost a containment policy is in place, all the sanctions are part of it. This is the background for every other policy.
The US has policy options to pursue, however the possibilities are more limited than in the case of Iran.
I. Diplomatic options
1. persuasion/carrot and sticks - he promises some he threatens some - promise great deals and threaten with stronger sanctions, frankly this is the most digestible to all onlookers
2. engagement - dropping all the sticks, lifting sanctions, stop containment, reintegrating - war would stop right away since this would end Ukraine's support too - some of his voters would cheer, some in EU too, but lot would be angry, a lot would feel he betrayed Ukraine, and his ego can't have this
II. Military options
There is none that could involve direct confrontation with Russia. He won't start a nuclear war.
III. Regime change
With sanctions generated economical collapse and a Ukraine war fiasco Washington tried to spark popular revolt in Russia, initiating essentially all three options: revolution, insurgency, and coup. Sanctions failed to do that and Russia is winning the war currently. Putin is quite safe for now.
IV. Containment
I started with this, it's on.

We can conclude the US has two options really, one is openly betraying Ukraine, or pretending they can do something.
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There is another approach which is both similar and different to the above. It's on the lines of U.S. Foreign Policy in Perspective: Clients, enemies and empire the book I started to talk about here  >>/54223/

Based on that we could divide the military options to over and covert. The US can act overtly if the enemy disgraced herself properly in the eye of the international community. If not then uses covert tools  >>/54316/
1. Coups d'état
2. Punctuated military operations
3. Aid to internal armed opposition forces - ie. Guerillas
Basically all means proxy forces in different roles. I do think a coupist group within the army can be considered as proxy force - it acts on behalf of the US.
Already a proxy war is going, but there is no such tool as using proxy and start a war against an enemy. And this is not what happened, since Russia was cornered in to the point Moscow had no option but to start a war themselves. Ukraine became a proxy for military operations after the war started.
What they do is #2 - punctuated military operations: they organize raids with the promise of building a resistance, a guerilla activity, a rebellion, etc. These aren't really successful.

In another context, drawn up in the same book, the US is doing client maintenance via intervention: Ukraine is a client which needs help to maintain the regime because she faces an outside attack. Relevant starts here:  >>/54271/
They get emergency military aid and advisors. So that's one box to tick.
But what to select from here:  >>/54272/ ???
Since the others involve US troop deployment really only one left: Mambo #5 Incompetent clients: basket cases. Not very flattering title. But this is about proxy forces and as situation evolves it might not have started like this maybe it did tho... right now it gets more fitting by the day.
And we arrived to this  >>/54274/ post, and as I pointed out in the next  >>/54275/ it's drawdown and negotiate.
So right now the US is doing the Persuasion approach which includes elements from other policies. Washington's aim from collapsing Putin's regime went to making peace in Ukraine ofc dealing with Russia can be part of a larger policy directed against China, but that's a different scope..
Containment's sanctions is part of the stick, the same as maintaining support to Ukraine, that is running a proxy force.
On the other hand it has elements of the Engagement policy, that is making various deals, and probably offering the lift of sanctions. This is the carrot.
He looks erratic because he has to court and reprimand Putin at the same time, which can only be done alternately. And due to the large publicity it happens in front of everyone - unlike the execution of the policies of previous Presidents (such as the case of Obama's Persuasion policy of Iran).
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France recognized Palestine today!
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250922-france-officially-recognises-palestinian-state
> The French recogition came a day after Australia, Britain, Canada and Portugal also took the largely symbolic step of recognising Palestinian statehood.

Meanwhile Israel reintroduces settlement scheme to scuttle the Palestinian state.
https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20250814-israeli-minister-smotrich-announces-settlement-plan-bury-idea-palestinian-state

More meanwhile:
pic #2
Last time I checked Hungary was solid green. I think the withdrawal of recognition should be done in the UN assembly. It sounds like the whole thing is just for creating controversy.
I would not be surprised tho if the Fidesz/Orbán govt would step back.
 >>/54685/
I think what Israel doing is a Cain and Abel moment.
They have the same roots, leading back to thousands of years, Levantines are all brothers essentially. Now they are killing off Able just to be condemned for eternity.
But Cain will always kill Abel because Cains don't know better. It's the same with Romulus and Remus.
Taking credit for stuff he didn't actually did, and telling the UN didn't help. He saved millions of lives and the UN weren't there...
He questions the UN. Now that Israel is criticized by everyone and all permanent members but the US acknowledged Palestine as a state... suddenly the US has no purpose and a failed institution.
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Look at that faggot grinning.

The whole point everyone who hypes this Trump speech up will miss is:
The UN is as strong as the strength the UN members give to it. If the largest of the participants don't act along, don't support of keeping the rules they had founded the UN for, themselves don't keep these rules, then yes, the UN turns into an empty shell.
The failure of the UN is a failure of the United States.
Trump designates antifa as terrorist organization.
Suddenly Fidesz govt. is setting up a terrorist organization list with the first priority to put antifa on it.
Such is the life on the client state.
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In other news:
The election campaign chugs forward with full force. All the main issues are EU related, no real domestic policy questions.
So now they came up with this:
The opposition (meaning Magyar Péter and Tisza Party) in a private intra-organization meeting talked that they will introduce progressive taxation for income tax (we have a flat 15%, very low in the EU, for all income brackets) but "they won't tell it in their campaign for they'll lose the election surely". A video was made about this and was leaked. Orbán said he saw the video himself.
With this finally they generated a domestic policy issue: how to tax income.

Along the US "who is violent, the left committing political violence" circus we also started ours. Apparently opposition politicians shoving Fidesz media journalist and propagating the culture of violence in politics.
It also turned out that one of the main faces of the opposition: lieutenant general Ruszin-Szendi Romulusz, the previous chief of the Hungarian Defense Forces, a career soldier... well it turned out he likes weapons, that he has a sidearm, and that he wears it in public, even on political events. And this is apparently a huge problem.
This year - since he started to support the Tisza Party as a political expert on military matters (and a possible defense minister I guess) - other vices of his were aired:
- he built an expensive house;
- he got liposuction;
- he is too friendly with the Ukrainians.
Lot to feed to the peasants to be angry about.
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I have to defend the expression "The Rest" and its expressive correctness/preciseness when we talk about our divided globe, about The West and The Rest polarization.
Indeed it sounds quite rude to that 7.5 billion people that placed in The Rest, but the intention of its use isn't humiliation, but to express that Western arrogance and ego-centrism in the way how they treat The Rest, which is indeed humiliating towards that 7.5 billion people. The Westerners treat them like nothing, they don't take into consideration their viewpoints, interests, opinions, wishes, faith, culture, way of life. Westerners think they know better and that they can tell how they should live what they should think, how they should behave. Not just the liberals, but just listen to Trump's speech in the UN just the other day, or how he used the term "shithole", which fits well when it is used on an imageboard, but from someone in the White House...
So yes. They are The Rest.
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 >>/54708/
Just compare Trump's speech with Lavrov's:
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=FBfWUqj-y6Y
https://youtube.com/watch?v=FBfWUqj-y6Y
Starting about 1:30 he talks about the UN and the challanges. Very different tone, even when he arrives to what happens in practice at about 2:01.
> picrel
Russia has good relations with Israel, but they know how to play for the ear of the majority of the world's population.
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No digital id petition.
Numbers are continuously growing. By the time I post this it'll be 200 more.
UK govt. doesn't give a shit. They'll introduce it.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/730194

Starmer's popularity is down the shitter. Something like 25% approval rating. They should overturn this government.
 >>/54716/
Also:
> help tackle illegal immigration
Stop letting them in. Get the fugging human traffickers, shut down those institutions which finance the whole thing. Those poor sods have no money to travel, while this whole thing is a huge public transportation network that can only run with money.
No. Ofc the solution is digital police and surveillance state.
I would say such is the UK, but this is the future for the EU too. How these people want this? How can all those low level functionaries implement the whole thing who know they also get fucked by the system? I do not know.
Could be tech, but fits here just fine.
Afghanistan was cut off from the internet. Quite literally. The Taliban cut internet cables to disconnect Afghanistan in order
> to tackle “vice” and immorality
As the UN article puts it.
https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/09/1166002
Listened Some Ordinary Gamers talking about it too.
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=t1EzBICxyI4
https://youtube.com/watch?v=t1EzBICxyI4

Back when the Talibans took over I read Afghanistan exported two things: smartphones and electricity to power these smartphones. I assume smartphones need internet too.
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Czech parliamentary election just went down.
Turnout 68,95%
34.5% ANO - literally Orbán I
23.4% ODS/SPOLU - previous winner, wikip says center-right, conservative
11.2% STAN - liberal but in the EPP
9% Pirates - liberal, "civil rights in the digital age" - I think I'd agree on a lot with these guys, I assume they are against Chatcontrol and such.
7.8% SPD - literally Hitler
6.8% AUTO - literally Orbán II

Big win for the opposition and the "sovereignist" group of parties, win for our Orbán. Now they can hope there will be another country next to the two Hungarys that's gonna start veto and shit.

Next one is Netherlands on the 29th.
Shitting meself. Latest French prime minister resigned, just after he revealed the list of his ministers. He was the 7th.
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/france/article/2025/10/06/french-pm-lecornu-resigns-hours-after-naming-government_6746132_7.html
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 >>/54742/
Tried to found some audio/video proofs of this, but yt if full of trash, and can't sort the noise from the real thing. I found vidrel but that's not it.
> Venezuelan opposition leader and the newly awarded Nobel Peace Prize winner has dedicated her win to Donald Trump for his “decisive support” in her country’s fight for democracy. 
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-nobel-peace-prize-maria-machado-b2843631.html
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On Neutrality Studies an Italian political analyst Thomas Fazi talks about his paper and research about the Jean Monnet program of the EU which supports European academics with grants to be "ambassadors of the EU" and spread the current talking points of the current elites.
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=aZrHFF1VXDM
https://youtube.com/watch?v=aZrHFF1VXDM

The paper dl-able from here. Or check pdf related. 70 pages, yet to read.
https://brussels.mcc.hu/publication/professors-of-propaganda-how-the-eus-jean-monnet-programme-corrodes-academia

Note. Thomas Fazi works for MCC Brussels, a think tank, which is a branch of Mathias Corvinus Collegium a private education institution financed by the EU via the Fidesz. I bet there are some other maecenas' but I'm not going to research that. I just wanted to point out that while Fazi speaks about interesting stuff, he also has his own bias. I don't think he is a muppet for Orbán tho.
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Some quotes from the summary:
The Jean Monnet Programme channels around €25 million per year to universities and research institutes globally and reaches around 500,000 students annually across more than 70 countries. This is not for open-ended research; it's an investment explicitly designed to influence academic curricula, align educational content with the EU’s political agenda

The EU’s own directives require Jean Monnet Centres of Excellence and Designated Institutions to maintain ‘continuous and frequent alignment’ of their teaching and researcs with EU policy priorities

funded projects openly aim to ‘promote EU integration’, ‘foster European identity’, ‘enforce EU values’, and ‘challenge the rise of euroscepticism and of populist, extreme right parties’.

Recipients of Jean Monnet funding are not just expected to produce EU-aligned research, but to act as ‘outreach agents’, organizing public events, engaging with media and NGOs, and disseminating EU-approved narratives to the public. This creates a ‘self-reinforcing feedback loop’ where EU-funded research legitimizes EU policies.

This ‘undermines the Humboldtian principles of academic autonomy’ and transforms students into ‘subjects to be moulded into “right-thinking” citizens’.

While the EU claims to combat ‘disinformation’, our report demonstrates that this is often a strategy to curtail dissenting views, narrow the spectrum of public debate and consolidate institutional control over the flow of information.
We highlight how this provides academic justification to the EU’s increasingly pervasive online censorship framework
Orbán and a full delegation travels to Washington on Friday.
Most important agenda: the "energy-cooperation package". The US wants everyone to drop Russian fossils. So either we get an exemption for a huge favor in return do something for Israel?, or somehow we'll buy US gas and oil. Perhaps the US will buy Russian stuff and sell it to us, and that will launder the dirty Russian fossils clean. But at least acceptable for Trump.
Listening Trump-Orbán press conference.
> everything is great, we are friends with everyone, great relations, war never had happened if I was the pres
Orbán looks very tense, and tries to add sidenotes to Trumps blabber.
They really have different styles. Trump always gloss over everything, Orbán tries to clarifies his positions.
Bit wierd and bit fun.
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> russia is a paper tiger and ukraine can win the war
> t. trump
> miracle can happen
> t. orban
Awkward. But check out Hegseth and Vance just after.

This is a problem for Trump for he has to maintain the support for Ukraine so he can apply pressure to Russia, which is the only way he can do it militarily. Sure sanctions and oil, but he has to keep the fighting on, for if AFU collapses it's done, nothing else will matter anymore.
So no matter what he or all of his cabinet, advisors and intel services with the army believes, they have to project the image that Ukraine can win, just a little more...
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Orbán and Szíjjártó (Foreign Minister) just finished their press conference after the negotiation (it was a "bilateral lunch", more precisely).
I still have to listen it somehow, or read a fugging article, I'm skimming one quickly.
They signed an agreement about energy. Details unknown.
Hungary got exemptions from the US sanctions over Russian fossils. No time limit. For both Turkish Stream gas and Friendship oil pipelines.
Gonna purchase nuclear fuel from Westinghouse. Gonna get "small modular nuclear power plants" from US. US don't care if we cooperate with Russia to finish Paks2 NPP.
More American investments to Hungary.
Probably gonna purchase American weapons.
There will be Trump-Putin summit. Sometimes.
Cooperation with Voyager Technologies in their space station project. They will invest on the Hungary. We have two trained astronaut so we might send the second to spass.
Perhaps more. Have to listen. But this is the tl;dr.
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After listening this press conference. Basically all that.
Should call that gizmo "small modular nuclear reactor". Not sure how many yet.
Additionally:
- Have to buy LNG from an American company. The amount and period is fixed, the price wasn't sure during the conference.

Anything noteworthy:
Other European countries want exemptions too.
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 >>/54823/
Found something about the small modular reactors:
https://hu.usembassy.gov/news-small-modular-reactor-deployments-in-hungary/
> July 30, 2025
> Hungarian nuclear energy development firm Hunatom signed a letter of intent with Poland’s Synthos Green Energy (SGE) on July 30 to support the construction of up to 10 BWRX-300 small modular reactors (SMRs) designed by the U.S. company GE Vernova Hitachi.
Is the recent agreement a new one really? Or just the follow up steps on this one and its sold to us as some kind of new initiative, or part of this agreement package they fought for?
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Here's a fact sheet of the results of the "bilateral lunch" of yesterday from the US State department.
https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/2025/11/u-s-hungary-relations-reach-new-heights

About the SMRs. This is a brand new tech. According to Wikipee, these are developed since the 1950s, but up to 2024 only Russia and China had working models.
About the spent fuel storage. I wonder if we have to store the US's spent fuel as well, or anyone's the US tells us to, or just ours.
About nuke fuel. Westinghouse will supply for Paks I (but not for Paks II apparently).
Visa waiver - this is coming for a while now, they announced it previously we won't need visa anymore.
> renewal of a General Security of Military Information Agreement
> Hungary’s commitment to protect national security infrastructure from malign actors.
I interpret this as "online surveillance".
Weapons: $700 million worth of defense articles via foreign military sales.
Another new tidbit: binational Fulbright Commission. For scholars and students.
More new tidbit: Hungary provieds $1 million for the study the ethical use of AI.
Last new tidbit: The Hungarian Research Network (HUN-REN) has signed a cooperative agreement with MIT’s Center for International Studies (CIS) to advance science and innovation.
Many leftliberal Western news outlet reports that Trump gave one (1) year exemption from fossil sanctions, opposition media and politicians takes these report over.
Our govt media and politicians say the fossil exemption has no defined end date.
There is some wiggle room for interpretations, this Politico article reflects it:
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/07/trump-opens-the-door-for-an-exemption-for-hungary-on-russian-oil-sanctions-00642146
The core problem is that our govt talks about oil and gas. In the article - even in the title - we can read specifically about oil. And the sanctions Trump introduced recently are on the Russian companies Lukoil and Rosneft, or more specifically a number of their subsidiaries as can be read in the bill I posted here:  >>/54766/ Note: there is no Gazprom there.
All three companies produces oil and gas, but just two of them got sanctions in the latest package. Not sure about Gazprom, perhaps it was sanctioned prior by Biden and the embargo is still in place.
So only the oil or the gas is under embargo as well? And it's not really the product but the trade with the companies that are banned, no?
Do we got waiver for both? Do we got for both but for different timeframe? Is it just for oil because only oil is sanctioned?
So I think this is the confusion that gives a way for everyone to interpret it for us, the peasants, in different ways.
And this fugging fact sheet  >>/54825/ does not contain anything about it.
Curious snippet:
> The White House said in an email only that the exemption was “for one year,”
Where can we read this email?
Now radio talks about Orbán talking about financial shield, in the context that if EU closes the tap, the US will provide us...
This shit is only makes sense if the US "help" us to get loans from IMF and World Bank. They won't pay from their treasury for sure, and there is no common piggybank with the US, unlike with the EU.
 >>/54832/
Btw this is one type of client maintenance, providing loans to keep client regime in power. Check this post:  >>/54293/
We basically get all three. Economic, military, and political assistance. It is done that it looks like business, so no direct handouts, we are expected to pay for everything.
I think the financial shield also might refer to "emergency economic aid" from the client maintenance intervention group.


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