/pone/ - World of Equestria

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I'm not sure if this thread has a purpose or not but I thought having a general coversational thread could be useful and /comfy/ is this time. Any strangers who feel like posting can join in too  because we may all being going a bit crazy in a few months. 

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 >>/5563/
Pinkie, are you having a crazy period again?

anyway, yeah I am sure that the other threads might overwhelm someone out there. 

Did you have Ponychan in mind while creating this thread? Just curious.

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 >>/5563/
> because we may all being going a bit crazy in a few months. 
aren´t we all though? Imagine saying out there that you have been managing a board for more than two years, everyone would look at you and me with their eyes so wide open that they would get accolades from Tempest herself.

This board is pure craziness by simply existing.

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 >>/5572/
Nope! They did have a /chat/ board didn't they? I just was thinking of a thread that was for just short random posts or completely off topic conversation. I also considered calling it /r/-random or /sp/-shitposting but I just thought it but more /endpone/ to have some chating partly encouraged besides just randomness.

 >>/5573/ 
aren´t we all though? Imagine saying out there that you have been managing a board for more than two years
Well technically it hasn't been even a year yet for me in a administrative roll since BO left in September 2019 did he not? Your point still stands for the board and us though.

>  with their eyes so wide open that they would get accolades from Tempest herself.
I have already have been shocked by the respect we get sometimes by outsiders of the fandom. It's truly crazy that we are still here.

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comfy Twilight reading books.

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 >>/5581/
check it by yourself by they do have one. 

> I also considered calling it /r/-random or /sp/-shitposting but I just thought it but more /endpone/ to have some chating partly encouraged besides just randomness
full randomness for a community of this kind doesn´t work all that well. Maybe if we lived in 2011-12, I would dig that direction but I don´t think that much randomness can be displayed from a limited number of users. 

I mean, we could have a feast of shitposts but it would fade really quickly.

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 >>/5583/
/go/ thread intensifies

 >>/5582/
> it hasn't been even a year yet for me in a administrative roll since BO left in September 2019 did he not
he left in July 2019 so you must have had that role since August. 

> I have already have been shocked by the respect we get sometimes by outsiders of the fandom
which is really impressive considering how infamous MLP is seen in 4chan. I suppose that the lack of pony raids on other boards from this site might have kept /endpone/ in a neutral status. Save for the initial stigma, they don´t have many arguments out there to despise it.

> It's truly crazy that we are still here.
if someone had told me what was going to happen after posting this picture in Dec 2017, I wouldn´t have believed that person. To my amazement, I don´t know how many times I must have given a kick to the dictionary in the past but this board keeps going...somehow.

Maybe the crazy part doesn´t come from this board but from its users...the word autism falls quite short in order to describe all of this.

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and quite possibly this period of staying home might offer us a chance to look back to the past and... how many things have changed. 

Sure, there have been posts in which the first steps have been acknowledged and certain occurrences throughout this 2nd period for the board but one wonders how much has affected us as users of it.

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 >>/5586/
what I am trying to transmit with this post is that when one entered here, one wouldn´t believe these premises:

> you are not going to post image macros
you post image macros in order to liven up the board
> you are not going to show your personal side in a chan
it becomes a part of it for the evolution of the board
> you are not contributing to the fanbase because you cannot draw
two threads about editing images, one of them has hit the bump limit
> you are not going to write greens or fanfics about OCs like degenerates would do for wish fulfillment
writes several fics and one of them surpasses the 13k words. 
> this board has no history nor culture, how is there any OC?
and the first one arose because of a word filter from the very beginning

you know, I could go on and on (show discussion threads or hitting bump limits several times) but one gets the picture. What was seen as the pinnacle for autism, one should reevaluate life after doing this. 

Not sure if one has become either based or so numb after a rollercoaster of this kind that caring about it might be truly pointless.

I don´t know, maybe I should laugh out loud, living in a little cloud.

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> I don´t know, maybe I should laugh out loud, living in a little cloud.
I think that this comic fits more than the previous picture towards the insight about myself.

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you know that I should be start asking myself what the hell I am doing when one cannot find sleep. It might sound autistic and it probably does but when one doesn't go out of the house,it feels like my body still needs to do something.


And what's worse,it's that my head cannot stop spinning about a certain detail that I cannot believe I haven't realized about it until now. It's almost like I have had a revelation tonight and it's about MLP....I cannot stop thinking about it.

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okay,so what's been happening inside my head? Why am I posting this? Mostly because I have had the realization that something that has been bothering was never all that much of a secret but one should take it into account.

So,you would guess that each species would be quite different in terms of bodies and structure. Except for the beak in griffons. and a little bit the angles in dragons,surprisingly enough the main relevant ones are all more similar than one tends to believe. Except for the draconequus, I believe that if you are familiar with a pony,the rest are quite derivative in reality.

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even for dragons,this can be perfectly applied,just look at the contours of Ember for example.

So what bothers me seems to aim more towards the technical side of the characters. It's not about the personalities but their bodies and here is the advice in order to reach how to create them and how my mind has seen "the light" of knowledge on my own.

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the key of drawing them is this. Open the Sketchbook program and use the option that says guides. And here is the secret for drawing all their bodies:

By using a CURVE RULER

I am fool for not acknowledging this earlier but you can be a naughty artist and yet look like a professional with that tool. If you look closely to the contours of a pony,a seapony, a gryphon or even a dragon, their bodies rely on curves entirely.

I thought that drawing was like an insanely complicated task that only people like Picasso or well known painters could reach and maybe it is that difficult. 

However,for MLP, you don't need to be all that skilled. In fact,with proper placement of the ruler,you can draw basically anything. I mean, it's all curves and a few counted lines.

I am stupid and I am saying this in 2020. How didn't I notice this at the very beginning? Perhaps I am a student of science who has never bothered to check the principles of plastic arts. But even then, by using the rulersof technical drawing, you can draw (almost) all the bodies without having a good balance in your hands and pretend that you are skilled when you aren't in the end.

That's everything you need. The rest (the shadows or lighting) is another topic but as for the basics,what I have said is more than enough.

This is what has driven me crazy tonight.

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 >>/5587/
Maybe it's numbness. Maybe it the emotion is  deep inside. Maybe... it isn't simply emptiness but peace that we've gone so far it has become a pattern of sorts? No pressure to keep going to new highs, no worry of failure and no awkwardness from the early days? Just sailing along at your own pace: 
https://youtube.com/watch?v=2zkjQVh5KmQ

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 >>/5624/
This is me often.  Though surprisingly this week has been rather busy for me despite my city being under quarantine but I still relate in general.   My mind can just spin at times. Sometimes one almost falls asleep and then has to write down an idea/theory/observation and you are reminding of these moments right now.

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 >>/5626/
I remember that I would often watch an episode and try to keep track of small details and background events. Slowing down animation to see how it worked, etc. What have ya seen that has elluded me?

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 >>/5627/
What you have found...

Well for me the art and animation of MLP always felt like a mix of the basic with odd extra detail stacked atop or around it (if you look at the animation you can sometimes see them having the grass move beautifully or characters breathing). Granted some of the backgrounds got near top tier later too. The fact that the show usually had to go by a 26 episode per season schedule and it's already done in flash with the reusing of a lot of assets this fact shouldn't surprise us. Yet with such information for somepony such as us this could crack the code for us to do more. And..

All the way back to the early days I used to wonder why there where these very similar curly patterns used over and over again in the backgrounds of various locations throughout the show. I mean I knew they would obviously reuse it and it was a simple way to make something look less barren but I also wondered why it was this specific design? Looks to me because  just a quickie detail made by a CURVE RULER!  

You have answered a question of mine that has went on for years  

> However,for MLP, you don't need to be all that skilled. In fact,with proper placement of the ruler,you can draw basically anything. I mean, it's all curves and a few counted lines. 
I'd say a lot of cartoons are that way. One of the rules of animation is breaking down something to is simplest element so it can be easily drawn over and over. MLP though is an especially simple design. I mean the bodies of the basic unicorn, pegasus and earth pony are just the same base with a few cosmetic details changed. It's one of the reasons I think  we had a lot of artist get to a good or decent level over a lot of fandoms.

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 >>/5628/
> Maybe it's numbness. Maybe it the emotion is deep inside. 
most likely it only appears at certain times but not all that often and when it´s triggered, one notices when the voice inside me can transmit more than usual.

I wrote that because there is always that chance that could be compared to icon like JustinRPG or Chris Chan in terms of being messed up in the head. After two years, I felt like doing the exercise of laughing at myself because, what should one feel after doing all this honestly?

> Maybe... it isn't simply emptiness but peace that we've gone so far it has become a pattern of sorts?No pressure to keep going to new highs, no worry of failure and no awkwardness from the early days? Just sailing along at your own pace

I still do have a certain compromise about what I do. I certainly act most of the time as if I were being watched so despite sailing at my own rhythm, when something sparks into my head, I cannot get rid of it. Perhaps I try to be more ambitious when it isn´t all that necessary in the first place. Perhaps one doesn´t need to aim that high but one gets a little bit anxious to feel about falling low at a certain point. However, considering that this is the internet what we are talking about, this board might be looked like a vanilla thing for outsiders (and even in a positive light) so maybe you are right about no need to worry about committing mistakes (even though that feeling still remains latent).

It sounds quite overwhelming for very few people to do all this though.
 
About that song, is that band a one hit-wonder? Because I have listened to that song so many times on the radio. I don´t hear it all that much but I swear that this one would appear a lot if I put the radio on. It´s one of those songs that you recognize but you fail to name it while looking for it.

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 >>/5629/
> This is me often.
well, I am not alone at this and it comforts me hearing that.  

> spoiler text
being busy in these circumstances is quite an achievement. There are people who have actually entered into a depressive state because they are so used to going outside and working that they don´t have any hobbies or simply don´t know what to do. 

> My mind can just spin at times. Sometimes one almost falls asleep and then has to write down an idea/theory/observation and you are reminding of these moments right now.
that happened to me as well when I wrote the first greens on the bed (yes, the Midnight Radiance one was entirely written on mobile while staying on my bed and with the sunrise in the middle of the story) but I thought that after gaining confidence here, I wouldn´t imagine that this would happen again. Fortunately, it dealt with MLP stuff so on the bright side, it was nothing related to IRL things that could affect me.  

But it happened and oh boy, it was a discovery (except for those who are artists and dedicated to arts). 

> try to keep track of small details and background events. 
I knew that some backgrounds were repetitive (like the houses) or even the ponies (reusing assets as you say in the following post) get copy-pasted for filling the crowds, especially in the early seasons with for example, the recolors of Lyra with the same mane and tail. 

Even though that was quite noticeable for anyone who bothered to check a bit the background scenery, one would notice the repeated patterns/ponies (and they improved that aspect over time) but I wasn´t aiming completely at that part.

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 >>/5631/
> What you have found...
astonished? Yeah, I did that as well last night while posting it. Imagine how it feels like discovering something so obvious yet it cost me all this time to notice it. 

> if you look at the animation you can sometimes see them having the grass move beautifully or characters breathing
which is quite amazing. Even the shadows in certain scenes looked wonderful in certain episodes (Princess Twilight Sparkle comes to my mind) and such contrast in that simplicity looks quite ironic for the nature of this artstyle.

> Granted some of the backgrounds got near top tier later too. 
indeed

> All the way back to the early days I used to wonder why there where these very similar curly patterns used over and over again in the backgrounds of various locations throughout the show. I mean I knew they would obviously reuse it and it was a simple way to make something look less barren 
just compare the scenes with crowds. You didn´t see a single copy pasted pony in The Last Problem but how many were the repeated ones/clones in the first episodes (Friendship is Magic opener). So many were so generic that Derpy managed to stand out among them simply for the eyes placed wrongly. 

> Looks to me because just a quickie detail made by a CURVE RULER! 
amazing secret that should have been taken into account for any fan but for some reason, either we didn´t bother to check it out because you don´t focus on a technical level barely anything except if it´s noticeable.

When it comes to the contours, the amount of curves in this show are almost infinite and I couldn´t sleep because if I tried to relax myself while staring at a MLP pictures, they would irk me because of watching the material from the technical viewpoint. And when you get used to judging the pictures from that side, you cannot stop noticing how the artist did X picture by combining the curves/lines and  wherever you look at,they all feel mostly the same.

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 >>/5634/
I forgot to add the cutie mark on that one but anyway, it serves as a perfect example that with...

 >>/5631/
> a CURVE RULER!
indeed with a simple curve ruler (and probably an ellipse or straight lines) you can draw basically anything. So this explain why...

> MLP though is an especially simple design.
> the bodies of the basic unicorn, pegasus and earth pony are just the same base with a few cosmetic details changed.
> It's one of the reasons I think we had a lot of artist get to a good or decent level over a lot of fandoms.
the fanbase has managed to have lots of good artists that while not many dedicate themselves to this professionally, they leave you with an open mouth either way.

I am glad to have made you discover something that you were asking long ago. This revelation feels like almost seeing the sun and feeling praised for reaching the heaven when in reality, we have been really blind all the time and I realize that the more you know, the more you feel that you know nothing about this world. 
 
I was asking myself: "how do these people manage to draw in such a short span of time and draw better than me drawing the contours for days?" Some practice a lot but it discourages you a lot despite taking this into account, how could a random anon draw everything decently? 

I mean, I haven´t looked at any tutorials for drawing because I wasn´t all that interested in doing that except for summer 2017 and 
oh boy, the differences are spectacular for the process behind the two versions  >>/5634/.

After 5 years and a half, I cannot help but feel like an idiot for noticing this earlier but hey, better later than never and from what you have posted, you were clueless about this as well. 

> Yet with such information for somepony such as us this could crack the code for us to do more
in the end, we decide what to do if we use this info to our advantage but you now understand why I couldn´t close my eyes...because I had it in front of me everywhere. 

Curve rulers...the simplest tool yet the biggest secret behind everything in this show. My mind was blown by discovering that the creation of what I have enjoyed relied on...


...freaking curve rulers...

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> checking /mu/ just to see a little bit how they are going
> see a beautiful cover art
> decided to check it because of its cover

> it's a (neo) prog album released this year
> mfw the modern prog rock chart I made is actually outdated because of it
> no youtube videos of it can be shared either,only can be downloaded on Soulseek.


I post this on /chat/ because it's off topic and I wonder if the interest in prog is still out there.

Proof of life shitpost with a facehoof included

 >>/5659/
It's alright. After all it's not like that is your job. Besides I'm not the best music connoisseur anyway. Speaking of music.

> About that song, is that band a one hit-wonder? Because I have listened to that song so many times on the radio. I don´t hear it all that much but I swear that this one would appear a lot if I put the radio on. It´s one of those songs that you recognize but you fail to name it while looking for it.
It's the professional name of a solo singer. She's been involved in a whole lot of stuff of varying levels of popularity from my understanding. But Orinoco Flow and Only Time are the only things I regularly run into.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=upkYQqbrjSc   
 Orinoco Flow is special as it is in one of my earliest memories  but I certainly can relate to what you say with only time.

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 >>/5674/
> Besides I'm not the best music connoisseur anyway
no need to tell me about that.

> It's the professional name of a solo singer. She's been involved in a whole lot of stuff of varying levels of popularity from my understanding. But Orinoco Flow and Only Time are the only things I regularly run into.
well, both songs have been spinning a lot on the radio so keep in mind that if I don´t do it for myself, the commercial radio will do it for me. 


> Orinoco Flow is special as it is in one of my earliest memories but I certainly can relate to what you say with only time.
I put it on both. While I did like many of the songs that appeared in the radio during my childhood/teen years (and I still do), I prefer not to become burned by them in the future. Though for being a "one hit wonder", she sold quite a lot of record and many artists would have liked to be in her position.

As for holding special songs in memories, I remember buying a commercial compilation because of the song Who Wants To Live Forever and having a nostalgic trip because of the song Island In the Sun when I rediscovered it on Youtube.

I have to mention though that the popular singles would so much more rewarding if the album accompanied it. I wasn´t fond on The Logical Song (Supertramp) until last year and listening to Breakfast in America entirely changed my mind completely about the band and the popular hit had more impact within its context in the album, so in a way, listening to those popular songs on your own when you want them to hear them...are more rewarding than randomly passing by.

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 >>/5704/
> MFW when I have been listening to:
> Zager and Evans are the only band to do this in both the U.S. Billboard Hot 100 and the UK Singles Chart. 
> Well you may have a point there... 
obviously I am not the greatest seer out there but considering your previous posts about music and the fact that you have linked other popular songs meant for the radio whose artists didn´t have a solid album that would be relevant in the canon of music (still selling millions of copies like Enya or Astley), I simply expect the predictable case. Though I don´t remember this single all that much, seeing the article that they gained that one hit wonder stigma because of a car accident before Woodstock...that sucks and makes you wonder if they could have released more material after reaching a broader public with that concert.

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I didn't personally feel infinity was dying but I have noticed that not more than ... one post happened after I replied to a fun-post thread. Last week. So, here I am. Maybe.

 Despite the SARS-cov-II shutdown I have not written anything pony. Or anything else. Or watched any movies or read a book. I played some video games and got several important property maintenance chores done. But tonight I feel too wasted to put coherent sentences together. Can't even play video games without getting angry about losing there's no way I can work on a story.

Speaking of writing, does the fanfiction thread still exist? Guess I should go take a look ... When I feel less burned out about everything.

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 >>/5868/
> I didn't personally feel infinity was dying but I have noticed that not more than ... one post happened after I replied to a fun-post thread
well, I have lurked a little bit on /8pone/ and yeah, you were judging in the sticky which boards could be the alternatives. The BO by the way said that he would use this place as a last resort....

I´ll leave it at that.

> So, here I am. Maybe.
well, you have this place but keep in mind, I can´t promise neither a paradise nor a fast board like the rest. In the end, you decide according to your preferences.

> Despite the SARS-cov-II shutdown I have not written anything pony. 
greens or posts in general? What are you referring to? 

> I played some video games and got several important property maintenance chores done. 
well, if you check these posts:  >>/5848/ and  >>/5851/, you will notice that this board has pretended to go as usual but the abnormal situation hasn´t helped much psychologically speaking.

> But tonight I feel too wasted to put coherent sentences together.
well, you did for this one

> Can't even play video games without getting angry about losing there's no way I can work on a story.
do you play online games (CSGO, LOL, etc)? Because that happened to me with COD a few years ago. I only play single player games these days.

> does the fanfiction thread still exist?
eeeeyup,although it was created for feedback according to the OP but it´s the thread dedicated for it. Here it is:  >>/4724/

> When I feel less burned out about everything.
alright, take it easy.

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 >>/5868/
Inifity is not dying per se, probably because it's the same type of fun-posting that had been done to death
> iwtcird
> "would you: with a picture of pony puhsee
> horny posting
Personally, I'm tired of these type. Sure, we all want to fug the pony but not all the time.

 >>/5870/
> The BO by the way said that he would use this place as a last resort....
Can confirm it wasn't BO since it was me. I suggested as a last resort since this place is nice. Like another anon put it "moderately faggier cousins who we crash at and sometimes have cool stuff I guess that wouldn't be too bad.". It has it's own board culture that's distinct from other chan, ESPECIALLY 4chan. Although because of the tight knit community renders anonymity moot but you guys still kept to it and only name/trip when creating contents.
Don't really want to destroy what you guys created here with bringing in 8/pone/ "culture". Thus, a nice place to visit for most of us.

Anyway, speaking about games, have you guys played Mindustry? It's a pretty fun Factorio-TD hybrid but the later campaigns are quite the hassle. I like the fact that it is free from itch.io and you can coop in it. Haven't tried playing the community server tho. Wonder how the PvP like.

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 >>/5871/
> Personally, I'm tired of these type. Sure, we all want to fug the pony but not all the time.
I mean sure, that´s fun but again, perhaps you feel that this board looks different but make no mistake, I have /mlp/ already for that and with more people. 

> Can confirm it wasn't BO since it was me. I suggested as a last resort since this place is nice. 
oh, that explains everything

> Like another anon put it "moderately faggier cousins who we crash at and sometimes have cool stuff I guess that wouldn't be too bad."
more or less, I think he nailed it. But you know, I have (personally) the premise of never making promises nor claiming that this place would be the quintessence of anything really. The cool stuff comes spontaneously and you know, the ambient feels more like a public chat of antisocial media than anything else, even though I could perfectly repeat the formula of /mlp/ and shitpost all over and over RD and say HI ANON like 50 times a day. 

However, after spending almost 6 years on /mlp/, I am bit saturated of that style and I am trying to wonder what product could be offered that /mlp/ wouldn´t offer but no way this board is capable to play for high stakes. 

> It has it's own board culture that's distinct from other chan, ESPECIALLY 4chan.
funny that you mention it because the main general was based on MLPG just that I used a shitpost and made an acronym called NMAiE.  Also I find it funny that you say that because the ""culture" comes from two or three people...you believe that there are more anons here and yes, maybe a few random lurkers but as for active anons, you´d better start using the fingers of your hand.

Also, you are talking to an active user here but I am the same who has been in /mlp/ since 2014 and has managed to get 7 digits over there, so you wouldn´t imagine that certain people show two sides of the same coin in different place. If this one feels different, it´s because I consider this as a side project to reveal more of a personal view about anything, hence the long discussions displayed here.


> Although because of the tight knit community renders anonymity moot but you guys still kept to it and only name/trip when creating contents.
eeeeyup even though I have used it for OPs and relevant posts in which I considered important to remark that I was the one replying to it. Normally, you don´t need a name/trip because you notice the way of posting after a while when there are very few anons.

Anti social media like Bridgefag said a few months ago.

> Don't really want to destroy what you guys created here with bringing in 8/pone/ "culture". Thus, a nice place to visit for most of us.
don´t worry, in fact, the cultural icons of this board are: Star Light (try to type her name and you will fail by the way), the bat pony Cadence, the IDW characters (namely Cosmos and Amore) and perhaps the royal sisters but normally, these sprang up spontaneously and they could lose prominence over time, you know. Nothing is static.

I mean, we could adapt the board for more people and change the mindset

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 >>/5871/
> speaking about games, have you guys played Mindustry? 
never heard of it really. Even though I keep an eye on the main video game industry, I am almost completely unaware of the little market of Steam.

> It's a pretty fun Factorio-TD hybrid but the later campaigns are quite the hassle. I like the fact that it is free from itch.io and you can coop in it. Haven't tried playing the community server tho. Wonder how the PvP like.
I have seen the gameplay and despite the barren looks that the first waves deliver, I have seen more advanced parts and it turns into an overcrowded situation. I imagine that those last waves could perfectly be a real chore for the average player.

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 >>/5872/
> Also I find it funny that you say that because the ""culture" comes from two or three people
I'm sorry but you are wrong. This board does have a culture. I'm not calling it the most advanced but I've seen multiple traits that you have. A lot of board culture's are small and ill defined but you have your own posting styles and limited lingo. There is a lot of larger boards with less of an identity  than this place, even if it mainly comes from 2 to 3 anons.

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 >>/5868/
> Despite the SARS-cov-II shutdown I have not written anything pony. Or anything else. Or watched any movies or read a book.
I've mainly been watching my normal /co/ and /AM/ stuff out of board. Not really satisfied with a lot that's out there. Anime feel too formulaic and copy cat. A lot of the /co/ stuff just feels like it has hints of the same "LOL random" + where all quirky misfits vibe. There is the whole chibi anime Adventure Time style that, while not as completely dominating as many would have you believe, is still in just enough places to feel  tiresome. I think movies and a lot of live action is also boring so yeah I can get that.

As for /mlp/. I've seen probably about 30 or so episodes. Not sure I'd call myself part of the fagdom as I tend to dip my toes into a lot of random shows but it has been an interesting experience and the show has earned a bit of my respect at some points. Maybe I'll post about that in the show discussion thread sometime?

 >>/5875/
> I've mainly been watching my normal /co/ and /AM/ stuff out of board.
*boardom 
>  where all quirky misfits vibe
*we're 
 fuck I'm tired. 

 >>/5872/
> I mean sure, that´s fun but again, perhaps you feel that this board looks different but make no mistake, I have /mlp/ already for that and with more people.
I'm not sure I understand you. Are you saying that I like it here because I can shitpost with /mlp/ "quality"? I thought that I implied that I don't want those kind of low quality threads.
> I have (personally) the premise of never making promises nor claiming that this place would be the quintessence of anything really.
You don't have to. This board users behaviour speak for itself.
> Also I find it funny that you say that because the ""culture" comes from two or three people...you believe that there are more anons
No I don't? Even the sticky said there's like 2-3 core users. A culture will form in a community and hey, three's a crowd. Large enough for anons to interact with each to form an understanding that shaped how they interact with each other or in a place of their own.
> they could lose prominence over time, you know. Nothing is static.
Of course but anyone that practice Lurk More will more or less shaped to this board culture. /endpone/ already set rules for low quality threads hence pushing out those that can disrupt it core.

For example, I myself (maybe) unconsciously trying to write in a format that is as close to this board's.

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 >>/5874/
> This board does have a culture. I'm not calling it the most advanced but I've seen multiple traits that you have. A lot of board culture's are small and ill defined but you have your own posting styles and limited lingo.
I am not going to contradict those words because yes, there are boards which far less organization or patterns of posting that go everywhere and fail in terms of consistency, preventing them for setting up something in common. Even a couple of outsiders were impressed and admitted those details that board has and others don´t shine all that much in comparison.

Nonetheless...
> There is a lot of larger boards with less of an identity than this place, even if it mainly comes from 2 to 3 anons.
in this line, there is a huge risk and could imply ambiguous meanings. 2 or 3 people are enough to interact among themselves but if you tell that there is a culture, you are saying that the echochamber  for said users means culture when any outsider who has no clue or even a bigger number of people who enter in that chat, then the ambient vanishes swiftly unless those new people are aware where they are.

What I have done in the past has consisted in leaving marks or clues so the ones who substitute it would read it and understand what happened before. But again, the chan format isn´t all that effective for said purpose. 

Culture dissolves over time....but art, literature and music don´t and in the modern era,filmography and little by little, the video game industry.

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 >>/5874/
> I've seen probably about 30 or so episodes. Not sure I'd call myself part of the fagdom as I tend to dip my toes into a lot of random shows but it has been an interesting experience and the show has earned a bit of my respect at some points. Maybe I'll post about that in the show discussion thread sometime?
then, after reading this line I cannot  tag you as a shitposter (an outsider shitposter) because with that amount of episodes, you have watched the equivalent of an entire season and we warned you about not getting used to this place because the more you know about this 4th generation, the more you understand why it has gained such a cult. Not the best cartoon ever but definitely one that sets up the standards for toy commercials.

Also the post-gen 4 discussion is there and there isn´t any specific episode to discuss nor any prepared plan for it. So you can perfectly leave a few thoughts there.

By the way, favorite character and episode so far for ya?  besides the obvious one that you post here

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 >>/5877/
> Are you saying that I like it here because I can shitpost with /mlp/ "quality"? I thought that I implied that I don't want those kind of low quality threads.
sorry I poorly worded that.
I meant that despite that this is a chan and one could get perfectly away with it by repeating /mlp/ patterns and ways of shitposting, given that I am saturated and considering that there are not as many people to shitpost at, it makes no sense to do that. 

In fact, I am not aiming to repeat /mlp/. I wanted to say that this board could have perfectly gone through a shitposting route (as a result, there would be way more posts here than 5800) but as I do have other mediums that deliver such entertainment with way more efficiency,  it feels quite stupid to repeat the standards of /mlp/ when one doesn´t have the amount of users nor achieves any unique characteristic at doing that. 

I hope that I have explained it better than I did in the previous post and I perfectly see where you are coming from that you don´t want to see /mlp/ 2.0 over here (nor it has the ingredients to do that anyway)

> This board users behaviour speak for itself.
that´s up to the lurkers´ judgement, something that I cannot control beyond the posts delivered from my part.

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 >>/5877/
> Even the sticky said there's like 2-3 core users. 
it admits its own circumstances and the pic represents one of those icons so even the rules/the sticky are aware of what it is.

> A culture will form in a community and hey, three's a crowd. Large enough for anons to interact with each to form an understanding that shaped how they interact with each other or in a place of their own.
I...I won´t deny this affirmation honestly. Indeed, you nail it on this one.

> Of course but anyone that practice Lurk More will more or less shaped to this board culture.
that has its variables though. 
> /endpone/ already set rules for low quality threads hence pushing out those that can disrupt it core.
eeeyup, you are right. However, /endpone/ has set that up to point out that the spam and excessive shitposting that derail the usual activity (and it´s also established in the whole website but repeating it again kind of helps even if it feels redundant). It´s not that shitposting is not allowed at all nor the fact that different ideas could arise or set up huge debates with insults and everything, throwing pillows at each other..and even then, that wouldn´t be a valid reason at all for any ban. The biggest reason that a mod,admin or BO could ban you is basically spam, it´s boiled down to that (among a few details more, announced in advance)

> I myself (maybe) unconsciously trying to write in a format that is as close to this board's.
well, that´s up to you really but ironically, despite that anyone considers this style of posting as /endpone/´s culture, this practice could literally occur anywhere else. Though in 4chan is more limited because you only have 2000 characters available for each post, not 4096 like the alt chans offer. There´s not a huge mystery for noticing this. 

Another thing is that this style of replying has been also used for discussing episodes, edits, reviewing the fanfics posted over here and even pretty trivial stuff.

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 >>/5872/
> funny that you mention it because the main general was based on MLPG just that I used a shitpost and made an acronym called NMAiE. Also I find it funny that you say that because the ""culture" comes from two or three people...you believe that there are more anons here and yes, maybe a few random lurkers but as for active anons, you´d better start using the fingers of your hand.
 >>/5874/
> I'm sorry but you are wrong. This board does have a culture. I'm not calling it the most advanced but I've seen multiple traits that you have. A lot of board culture's are small and ill defined but you have your own posting styles and limited lingo. There is a lot of larger boards with less of an identity than this place, even if it mainly comes from 2 to 3 anons.
 >>/5877/
> No I don't? Even the sticky said there's like 2-3 core users. A culture will form in a community and hey, three's a crowd. Large enough for anons to interact with each to form an understanding that shaped how they interact with each other or in a place of their own.

Bridgefag the BO here. I think the sticky on top makes it perfectly clear to everyone the intent of the board and to what extent a culture applies.
 >>/5559/ 
> This board is not /mlp/, 8/pone, /mlpol/ or Ponychan. Not saying this board is the most unique or wonderful place in the world but a posting style and a limited culture has arisen that is distinct from those models and is arguably in sometimes in contrast. Expect sometimes long meandering discussions jumping randomly from topic to topic and experimental projects of various levels of merit.
I mean, I don't consider it the most expansive but I did try to recognize that we do have our own memes and way of posting that has just causally evolved organically that is a bit different. But as I say, and this is what I think he was trying to get at (or at least a better way of wording it). 
> We also recognize that board culture is not finite and could easily evolve with what any new anon or two could bring something to the table that could alter things significantly. 
The board is too small to have a finite strict code of what a culture is  I also think it's a little flawed to try to set things fully in stone in general 
I encourage you to be yourself and see what you can bring to the table as well. You don't have to force yourself to post exactly like us or minor everything we do.

 >>/5883/
Opps, forgot I was logged in  as it'd be stupid to say I was the BO with the roll signature already blaring that out. 

 >>/5881/ 
I guess you did get to a lot of what I said just now.

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 >>/5875/
> As for /mlp/. I've seen probably about 30 or so episodes.
????????
You are one of us now, at least partly. Would have never expected that when you first started shitposting. I will be indeed curious to see what you have to say.

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 >>/5871/
> moderately faggier cousins who we crash at and sometimes have cool stuff I guess that wouldn't be too bad
I can live with this attitude. 

> Don't really want to destroy what you guys created here with bringing in 8/pone/ "culture".
I appreciate the respect. Though as I said, as long as ya don't spam things to oblivion and stick to more legitimate arguing over shitposting "x is cucked" I think will probably be okay (and hopefully /comfy/). 

> Anyway, speaking about games, have you guys played Mindustry? It's a pretty fun Factorio-TD hybrid but the later campaigns are quite the hassle. I like the fact that it is free from itch.io and you can coop in it. Haven't tried playing the community server tho. Wonder how the PvP like.
I'm far from the most avid gamer so I can't say that I've heard of it.  If I can get it to run on my very old  linux  computers perhaps I'll try it out.
This right?
https://anuke.itch.io/mindustry

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 >>/5868/
> But tonight I feel too wasted to put coherent sentences together. Can't even play video games without getting angry about losing there's no way I can work on a story.
I know this feel. It can feel like you are strungling to think and the simple furstration of unarticulated thoughts.

> Speaking of writing, does the fanfiction thread still exist? 
Moving slowly but yes it does. 
http://endchan.net/pone/res/4724.html

 >>/5883/
> You don't have to force yourself to post exactly like us or minor everything we do.
I know, but as the saying goes, "When in Rome, do as the Roman do".
 >>/5886/
> Though as I said, as long as ya don't spam things to oblivion and stick to more legitimate arguing over shitposting "x is cucked" I think will probably be okay (and hopefully /comfy/)
Aye, true to that.
> This right?
Yeeee. That's the one. It's free and low end enough for anyone to pickup and play on multiple platforms. The games can get complex for some resources but overall simple.

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 >>/5892/
> I know, but as the saying goes, "When in Rome, do as the Roman do".
Agreed. Though I like that the BO is open to new contributions this place does have a somewhat comfy charm the way it is. Just a strange little bastard son of /flutter/.

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 >>/5892/
> I know, but as the saying goes, "When in Rome, do as the Roman do".
Alrighty, but just remember we are open to some experimentation. 

> It's free and low end enough for anyone to pickup and play on multiple platforms. The games can get complex for some resources but overall simple.
Neat. If my computer maintenance this weekend goes well I'll check it out. 

 >>/5894/
> Just a strange little bastard son of /flutter/.
I take it you know of our history with them. Not sure I'd take it that far but considering our old  and enteral in spirit  BO's influence and some of the survivors of /flutter/ saying we had some similarities to them I guess I can see us thought of as relatives of a sort. 

 >>/5895/
PoLS as well  L23 

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 >>/5870/
> greens or posts in general? What are you referring to? 

Fanfiction. Here, for example is an aborted foal that either deserved a better chance at life, or never should have been.

You know that song by Prince before he was 'formerly known' or again known as...? He started with a warning, "I was dreaming when I wrote this forgive me if it goes astray"

Nearing NaNoWriMo season in 2016 (so, October leading up to November) I had a weird dream. I wasn't upset, but the guy playing me in the dream was really freaked out.

So I tried to make a full novel out of it. Had several heart-string moments as the survivor that was roboticized didn't believe it, so when his one remaining traveling companion, who doesn't seem to have changed, says "you're healthy again" he disbelieves, thinking surely, after all this time, it means the companion has slipped too, and simply doesn't realize it.

And then all the halfway points. Not true worlds, but the perception that results in straddling two timelines -- one fully mechanical, one fully biological. And the LORE ... In this one I needed to decide that metal was especially precious; that was why gems were used for so many building projects, and I think I declared the guards to be wearing ceramic armor. I create the lore to facilitate the story, but some who have helped critique my work say the detail in my head about the world these ponies live in is half the beauty of my writing.

Since I'm not likely to ever go back to this world, I'll post it here rather than the writing thread. Most of my other stuff, by word count, is in the Fallout:Equestria universe, but my last nearly-complete one was in Conversion Bureau universe, which was ... interesting because I've only glanced at some of the fan-fiction OF that alternate universe so a few ponies pointed out I had a bunch of details horribly wrong.  I like what I like, and accidental alicorns peg my meter.

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 >>/5892/
> "When in Rome, do as the Roman do".
well, environment kind of influence a lot the mindset of those people who set the group. Just watch out who you take as a reference to follow though. 

Although I could explain why this format of posting has gained so much prominence 

> It's free and low end enough for anyone to pickup and play on multiple platforms.
I´ll have to see how it goes.  

 >>/5894/
> Though I like that the BO is open to new contributions this place does have a somewhat comfy charm the way it is.
I wonder if one of your ideas is the cyberpunk scene because it´s not the first time that I see a reference of Serial Experiments Lain and reading a little bit those PDFs, you are delivering a few hints where you are aiming for (creatively speaking).

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 >>/5901/
the image hasn´t been uploaded, huh? It ought to be the server or my connection while posting this reply. Anyway...

 >>/5897/
> Fanfiction. Here, for example is an aborted foal that either deserved a better chance at life, or never should have been.
you know, we are living in 2020 and not even MLP is free of metaphysical questions. I guess that these kind of questions/conflicts will never vanish from people´s minds. We are taking off with a heavy theme from that premise alone. 

> "I was dreaming when I wrote this forgive me if it goes astray"
My Little Fictions, Songs Are Magic as a source of inspiration. What´s even more impressive is that you took the first line of 1999.

> You know that song by Prince before he was 'formerly known' or again known 
to your surprise, from what  I am checking in certain musical sites I know, you can celebrate that 1999, both as a song and as an album, is quite popular to his discography. so his legacy is still alive. Nonetheless, combining your quote with...

> Nearing NaNoWriMo season in 2016 (so, October leading up to November) I had a weird dream. I wasn't upset, but the guy playing me in the dream was really freaked out.
this, I wonder if Prince´s death made you revisit his discography earlier that year. So, you were writing this for that project because of that dream.

> I create the lore to facilitate the story, but some who have helped critique my work say the detail in my head about the world these ponies live in is half the beauty of my writing.
I have told this several time to Bridgefag but the main selling point of MLP relies on the characters. If those characters are introduces, they have to offer something. Well established lore like the ceramic armor detail that you are mentioning are details of achieving upper standards of professionalism, that the contrived alternate universe follows a logical arc or plot device for carrying out stories that could take advantage of those concepts and add a potential greater impact. 

Without seeing the PDF, (this is a comment beforehand) keep in mind, while MLP can deliver diverse quantities of lore in its fantasy setting (or in any alternate universe related to it), what appeals the most for a slice of life franchise, is the interactions between the characters. Before seeing anything, I am predicting that this:

> when his one remaining traveling companion, who doesn't seem to have changed, says "you're healthy again" he disbelieves, thinking surely, after all this time, it means the companion has slipped too, and simply doesn't realize it.
could hit the hardest for a MLP reader. 

Nonetheless, it has quite a bit of merit that a significant proportion of your praise that you received in the past consisted in the way that you had integrated everything to that world and the mix of those two perceptions might not be reachable for everyone.

I am not an avid reader of fics but reading one with a heavy focus on it sounds interesting. Still, don´t take these words too seriously because I am only commenting your reply. I´ll have to see the material on its own properly.

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 >>/5897/
> I'll post it here rather than the writing thread. 
well...and what kind of commentary/feedback do you want to see from this board? The critique dedicated to lore, characters, message...? Or do you want a little bit of everything?

> Most of my other stuff, by word count, is in the Fallout:Equestria universe
I have been a fan of MLP for years and....despite its subcommunity, I have never bothered to check that out. I mean, I could judge your projects/stories on the story alone but in terms of lore, I would kind of fail at getting it correctly. 

> I like what I like, and accidental alicorns peg my meter.
well, as long as you don´t insert alicorns for the reason alone that they are overpowered (in the canon universe), you could justify them (or at least, an attempt to offer something interesting with them).

 >>/5896/
> some of the survivors of /flutter/ saying we had some similarities to them I guess I can see us thought of as relatives of a sort.
history repeats by itself and /endpone/ definitely isn´t an exception. 

> PoLS as well 
without writing any trip/name, anonymity for you is a meme. This proves that recognizing the style of each poster reveals far more than publicly revealing the name of that user.

 >>/5902/
> I wonder if Prince´s death made you revisit his discography earlier that year.

No. I've loved that line since I first encountered it, but seldom have I been able to come close to finishing a piece so closely associated with a dream, day or night, that I actually had.
I hang on to my dreams as long as I can, exactly because the overarching metaphysical discussion my brain is having with itself is fascinating to peruse and pick apart. These are the topics I never think of in the waking world, it I didn't let my mind roam so far afield at night.

 >>/5903/
> well...and what kind of commentary do you want to see?

A reaction. I'm not likely to ever try this again -- I lost something in trying to put the specific scenes to paper and in setting the work aside to let it percolate, it sank to the bottom.
I have no doubt the sense of pathos and refused hope will surface in another work; there's no need to 'shop around' for the best fix-it or band-aid.
And maybe in discussing what was put down, I can find where it faltered, and avoid that pit trap next time.

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 >>/5906/
> No. I've loved that line since I first encountered it
oh, love at first listen

> I hang on to my dreams as long as I can, exactly because the overarching metaphysical discussion my brain is having with itself is fascinating to peruse and pick apart. 
you are reminding of those posts from a couple of years ago that displayed a guide on how to achieve lucid dreams, just that those were aimed for experiencing events with the waifu, not for metaphysical matters. 

I have had those dreams that "click" in the brain but only when I am listening to certain songs repeatedly in private. I am the opposite case here, while I have been aware of certain dreams, I have never managed to get very far nor I have attempted to acknowledge them on purpose.

> A reaction. 
basically a generic reply.

> I lost something in trying to put the specific scenes to paper and in setting the work aside to let it percolate, it sank to the bottom.
that disgrace happens even to professional writers. They wished that they could type all that they thought at the moment of thinking about those ideas but then, they never managed to reflect those moments in their peak. I know a case of a particular writer of my country who stood in front of the typewriter for 6 hours a day without reflecting anything in the paper. 

I suppose that..
> I have no doubt the sense of pathos and refused hope will surface in another work
the spontaneous side will have to replace those lost scenes while writing the main consistent ideas. Either that or you could continue your pursuit at recovering everything that you were thinking for the novel.

 >maybe in discussing what was put down, I can find where it faltered, and avoid that pit trap next time.
then, it´s no wonder that you are asking for feedback here.

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 >>/5897/ 
> I had a weird dream. I wasn't upset, but the guy playing me in the dream was really freaked out.

Weird. I actually have had a couple of dreams of late where I wasn't me, but it was like I was watching myself from an external perspective. Was it something like that.

> And the LORE ... In this one I needed to decide that metal was especially precious; that was why gems were used for so many building projects, and I think I declared the guards to be wearing ceramic armor. I create the lore to facilitate the story, but some who have helped critique my work say the detail in my head about the world these ponies live in is half the beauty of my writing.

I love little details like this. Trying to piece together the world for a fic. I remember trying to rationalize the mix of tech levels by attributing it to a lack of quick transportation  heck, it was something I considered to be a semi-plausable theory till later seasons where it felt like everything place was just a day trip away.  Most usually just put Equestria in a pre or emerging industrial age so I think the choice of metal is interesting.

 >>/5906/
>  I lost something in trying to put the specific scenes to paper and in setting the work aside to let it percolate, it sank to the bottom.

Are you talking about simple writers block or are you talking about, how do I say it? The feeling. How you imagine it in your head. Certain details that you feel but can't quite ever translate right to paper. I know the second quite strong. At least in the past. 

 >>/5902/ 
> the image hasn´t been uploaded, huh? It ought to be the server or my connection while posting this reply

weird. The PDF wouldn't load either for awhile. Now it does but I wonder if it's on the server's end.

 >>/5914/
> Weird. I actually have had a couple of dreams of late where I wasn't me

All my dreams are 3rd person, and as I drift into consciousness I become aware of the discrepancies between how I would react, and how the script has the actor who plays me reacting. Sometimes my memories of the dream, are of me shouting catcalls at the script writer. The bit-players in the piece will take the time to scowl at me but the main characters have more professionalism and finish until the time runs out and I wake up for real.
Other times the last quarter of a scene will replay a dozen times, each time with a slight variation in wording, or emphasis.

> writers block, or ... how you imagine it in your head

Yes, those things. I just re-read that piece, and am very surprised I stopped at
> Considered,
>           Mechalestia
Since I KNOW I planned on introducing a gryphon shortly after the two got out of town.
Platinum would insist the gryphon was "gone" (couldn't see/hear him) but Coal could see both just fine. Then shortly after that Coal would perceive Platinum to have become an automaton but its voicetrack would always be about an hour late ... or early. Occasionally to be replaced with the modron pony-level unit and other times just an anodized painting but always insisting both stallions looked normal to him (gryphon would call him names at this point, Coal would opt not to repeat those words)

I think it's a "man vs. nature" tale about extreme isolationism, but sometimes I can't tell. It was meant to be a little creepy but I see its more like my dreams. We can see Coal is creeped out, but can't feel that ourselves.

Or so it seems just now.

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 >>/5917/
> I think it's a "man vs. nature" tale about extreme isolationism, but sometimes I can't tell. It was meant to be a little creepy but I see its more like my dreams. We can see Coal is creeped out, but can't feel that ourselves.
if we connect what you have said just here with your backstory in real life,something is telling me that you were writing to express your emotions subtly with the theme of isolation. 

Before answering Bridgefag's question about writing with the emotions,I think I have found right here one of the reasons why you don't have the objectives clear except for exposing a theme that has marked your life for a good period.

Also,this fic was written in 2016 and considering that you were writing with the method of dreams,maybe you could change the perspective or narrative towards what you have created and readapt to something more convenient for you.

Maybe it's not the dreams that you have to imagine but the logic of the story that you have built up in the past. Like for example,the griffon George that you liked to write in the end. Think more about his intended purpose and what to do with him, a path for new possibilities instead of seeing him as an obstacle that ends up nowhere.

I know that these are amateur and basic observations towards the fic (and I feel bad about being ignorant about the lore of this setting)but considering that you have felt the writer's block,the HUGE amount of self--criticism towards your own plot holes to the point of obsession(in caps by the way), the problem of clearing up those subtleties along the story and also the method that you use for each scene...

I know that you don't want to follow the fixfic path but...in this era of remakes like Final Fantasy VII and readaptions,something tells me that this wouldn't be a bad option because you couldn't finish it in that first try. 

SivC has applied the fixfic method and has managed to be quite successful,getting featured on Fimfiction and still opening threads on /mlp/ with an acclaimed reception.These are different standards and I am aware that you are aiming for a contest that requires 50k words of length but this is the reaction that I have been thinking about in a cold manner.

I am going truly meta here, I know, but it's what I have noticed in the way that you are posting towards your own work.

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 >>/5917/
now, leaving aside the standards of quality and lore. I have found this quite funny:
> Fred gets laid by literally every mare in the village that first night, and he doesn't even speak Ponish (The language barrier is another AU-element to this piece, although I weave that into the force-of-magic forcing conformity on the natives).
> Granted that might be okay but that level accidental domination is never repeated
> downgrade it to just the one mare, who was "assigned" to his care because she was the only non-illiterate whose weekend was coming up.

do you know what I would do here? If you are so worried in fixing that level of accidental domination and consider it as an irreversible flaw. If I were you, I would skip this part and discard it for the novel,saying:"Fuck it! Let's expand this golden moment to the maximum!"

Instead,this alpha moment for Fred could be perfectly used as the climax of a NSFW story with absolute freedom,detouring the tone of its main canon story. 

I would title the fic something like this: "Magic of Illiterate mares...but I picked the non-illiterate one " and go for the craziest ideas that you have in mind for the wet dream of dominating mares explicitly without any shame.


...just saying...

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 >>/5937/
> Magic of Illiterate mares...but I picked the non-illiterate one

I mean, if you want to see ... feel free to laugh, I guess. Also in re-reading it I guess it was only four mares.
The first night.

(also,
> filename
of the image)

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Why did the spoiler button not spoil? Is it spoilt?

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 >>/5937/
Wait, this is the chat thread, where I posted "roboticized"
...You were quoting discussion about the Pegacorn / CB-univ piece.

You do know I consider them to be incompatible universes to each other, right?
Although rightfully speaking the CB one is intended to go full multi-verse, with a heated argument between my Tyrantlestia, and Canon 'Lestia while Fred/Forest-Fire cowers in the room but behind a bookcase or something.

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 >>/5939/
Fixed. Didn't see any option to just spoiler one of them. Only by a post basis.  Or I'm just being an idiot. 

 >>/5939/
> You do know I consider them to be incompatible universes to each other, right?
I do. Maybe he just posted it here because he considered in more casual discussion? 

> Although rightfully speaking the CB one is intended to go full multi-verse, with a heated argument between my Tyrantlestia, and Canon 'Lestia while Fred/Forest-Fire cowers in the room but behind a bookcase or something.
That could be interesting. How do you write Prime Celestia? I mean, horror, disgust, shock, I see but I know with her there are several paths you could go by that could fit with a "canon" interpretation of her. 

I will be posting my take on how to help along your CB fic in a bit in the fic thread so perhaps that question can wait for now.
 Congrats on pics working for ya! 

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 >>/5879/
> episode so far for ya?
I don't know. Some of them make me feel a whiplash of TV Y and TV Y7 FV. They do character driven conflict well so I say I like that. 

> Not the best cartoon ever but definitely one that sets up the standards for toy commercials.
It actually quite strange. Doesn't really fit with any of the shows that I see you fags compare it to when evangelizing strangers. If you were to put it in a line up with all the other major /co/ fandom shows it just would feel odd with them. It doesn't feel like it shares much DNA with the rest of the shows from the 2010s.

 >>/5948/
> Bubblegum makes my dick hard
Bubblegum isn't real. Trust me. She probably is just using magic to fake it.

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 >>/5949/
> Some of them make me feel a whiplash of TV Y and TV Y7 FV. 
I am implying that you have watched the first season (without taking into account that you have watched the finale). You will lean towards the TV Y7 whenever you get into some questionable territory for a toy commercial of this kind (like The Cutie Map). You will wonder how DHX got away with it and managed to keep the same TV rating throughout the entire series. As for slice of life material, it definitely leans towards the former.

> They do character driven conflict well so I say I like that.
that´s the entire point of the series.

> If you were to put it in a line up with all the other major /co/ fandom shows it just would feel odd with them. 
well, if you lurk on other 4chan boards, you will find out that /co/ is also known as /co/mblr for outsiders. Despite forging the first groups that would define the fanbase, they didn´t withstand all that much the culture the dominant influence of /b/ and the Love and Tolerance mindset didn´t last as much as they initially expected. Nowadays, /co/ shares more the likes of Tumblr while this community has detoured to an undefined path that isn´t all that homogeneous.  

> It doesn't feel like it shares much DNA with the rest of the shows from the 2010s.
Despite having watched the first 4 seasons of SU and the entirety of The Legend of Korra, I wouldn´t consider myself an expert of how much MLP resembles its contemporaries. Nonetheless, I will say that the (unexpected) phenomena from the early years and the jump from being the laughing stock to the 4th gen standards of quality are the most unique aspects of it.

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 >>/5946/
> Maybe he just posted it here because he considered in more casual discussion?
yeah because reviewing it properly in the other thread wouldn´t be all that fair for the knowledge that I have about the lore of that universe so I decided to comment it in a more comfortable manner over here.

 >>/5940/
> You were quoting discussion about the Pegacorn / CB-univ piece.
eeeyup, I did and I didn´t combine both universes. So far, I have only talked about the Magic of Friendship clips, I haven´t entered yet into the Roboticized pdf.

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 >>/5938/
> feel free to laugh, I guess. 
you described it as if Fred was an alpha pegacorn but it turns out that he simply wanted to try casual sex and the whole act was... really vanilla, less than a third of that clip was focused on it. On one hand, it was much less NSFW (though it was relatively cute) than I expected but on the other hand, it doesn´t derail the tone of the fic because the main focus was mostly dedicated to his efforts at learning the language.

As this part doesn´t imply as much lore as the other PDF that you had shared before, I have managed to enjoy it more as an independent story despite its context.

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I was wondering if you guys thought that /endpone/ was dead because you know, we have to wait a few hours for responses or even an entire day...

but it turns out that there isn´t much competition in this altchan and as a result, this rhythm makes /endpone/ look like an integrated board. Even though Endchan has mostly remained this way most of the time, you get out of here and save for 15 boards or so, you realize that this place looks really barren.

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 >>/5955/
Funniest thing is that time when the site was so abandoned that we were in the top 5 a lot. 

 >>/5949/
> It actually quite strange. Doesn't really fit with any of the shows that I see you fags compare it to when evangelizing strangers.
I have felt this but I never was sure because I don't watch a lot of core /co/ stuff. If an outsider  or should I say a newfag  says this than I take it as a partial confirmation that I maybe right.

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 >>/5562/
> randomness
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> "You said my feathers looked wholesome!"

> "Just wishing your feathers covered up some of your holes."

 >>/5974/
I'm either blind or dumb. Plz delete or hide my insanity.

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 >>/5971/
> Funniest thing is that time when the site was so abandoned that we were in the top 5 a lot.
yeah. The first time that we got the 4th position  was when I was quoting a few lyrics of a love song  with a few Amore pictures (hence she deserved the spotlight on the NMAiE general)

/endpone/ managed to get the first place a couple of times by taking advantage of the server errors while the rest of the boards had to recover the pace after the maintenance period.

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 >>/5976/
already reported,anon.

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leaving a PoLS over here tonight

 >>/5976/
It has been beleted. Does the webm work for you? The webm works fine for me. Though it could be just endchan on the fritz like it sometimes still does.

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 >>/5983/
> Does the webm work for you?
let´s check this out

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Both the webm and mp4 formats work perfectly for me, without any difference between the .net and .org domains of this site.

In my personal case, there are no problems here.

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So, how do I explain this without getting into a mess within my own explanations?

I recall that  >>/5875/ claimed that pony stuff was sneaking through video games territory over the course of the last decade. Indeed, there were a few references of MLP in games like Fallout.

So, why do I bring this up again?

https://www.espn.com/esports/story/_/id/29174855/evo-2020-announces-event-take-place-online

Because as I posted a few days ago, Them´s Fighting Herds was officially released and...

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EVO 2020 stands as one of the most famous e sports events, specifically tournaments that cover fighting games.

In theory, this edition had a lineup prepared before the Covid 19 outbreak but it was cancelled, so the event organizers have decided to change the format and go for the online method. 

It turns out that the current lineup of games featured for official tournaments has nothing to do with the previous one and as you can see in the announcement from this tweet:

https://twitter.com/EVO/status/1260778864323596288

One peculiar highlight that one can abstract from the trailer is that a powerhouse like Smash Bros Ultimate hasn´t made the cut, not even for the public exhibition. Instead, the list of games that have managed to accomplish all the requirements are: MK11, Killer Instinct, Skullgirls and...Them´s Fighting Herds.

How about that? How does it feel that for the first time since 2012, EVO has always had Smash Bros in its roster but this time, it doesn´t? One tries to figure out  why this has occurred and the factors around it are...quite paradoxical to say the least.

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Did you know that Smash Bros Ultimate has a pretty poor online system, particularly the netcode that runs with a peer to peer connection?

Yeah, a multibillionaire company like Nintendo doesn´t do its homework and its fans have complained many times that the online is a disaster. So, appearing publicly at EVO could have been embarrassing and delivered a bad press towards the famous franchise. Not only that but the 4 games featured on the list that are ready for the championships, none of them come from Japanese developers/companies. This means that USA has won Japan in terms of netcode. 

The funniest aspect here though is that two indie games like Skullgirls and Them Fighting Herds (which were backed up in Kickstarter, via crowdfunding) with very little money, do have a rollback netcode (GGPO) and deliver better results in their online modes than games which were developed by rich companies like Capcom or Nintendo. The word irony falls short here. So, the companies with the biggest amount of resources (all from Japan) don´t make the cut because they don´t satisfy the technical standards while indie developers with very little money have taken care of that feature.

We have had a really weird 2020 so far but not even video games are free of it.  This whole change means that Them Fighting Herds will be seen by outsiders this July and that two indie developers have managed to give a slap in the face because of the poor netcode that the Japanese games run in their famous franchises. Ask a Smash Bros Ultimate player or see a gameplay of this game online and you will be amazed to check out how poor it is actually.

We are living in a really weird timeline, I know. However, the reactions that come from /v/ and media in general are going to be quite pleasant to watch...and no, this is not 2011 nor 2012. The golden era is long gone and somehow, it STILL manages to seethe a few outsiders in 4chan after an entire decade (which is quite impressive honestly). A game with few resources (the spiritual successor of Fighting is Magic) has accomplished all the requirements needed for carrying out a championship at EVO. 

So, congratulations to the US developers who have won the battle over Japan and...well, the MANE6 team has managed to teach a lesson (or two) to huge titans this year, getting an opportunity to gain a broader scope than the MLP fanbase alone. It seems that the Kickstarter project has paid off but I never imagined that it would reach this level of attention so soon with such a quite peculiar manner like this.

Do you guys have a board mascot(s)/board-tan(s) or OCs of /endpone/?
Backstory of them would be nice as well

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Wow. I had always herd of Nintendo's ineptitude when it came to internet (weren't they the last to have online connectivity?) but this is something else. Admittedly I haven't kept the best track of Mane6 team that well and TFH. 

>  getting an opportunity to gain a broader scope than the MLP fanbase alone. 
Think about this: Most works that are influenced by MLP were just copycats or cameos. This actually bares the mark of FiM in actual influence and style. That's what makes me smile the most.

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It's really haunting to run into an old disk that I burned in late 2013 that was filled with a lot of random junk including couple of old MLP eps, pmvs, and low res screencaps. There is something I have to tend too soon and that only adds to the mood.

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 >>/5972/
I raise you a far superior mashup. 

 >>/5989/
I can confirm on multiple ends that's the same for me as well  including tor. 

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This here my friends is the Papapaponker. This type of critter was created when not all the Pinkie Pie's went in as into the mirror pool as cleanly as Twilight thought. A few that struggled hard enough managed to survive in various deformed states with one such Pinkie having enough of her original programming to continue to self replicate herself through the pool. Undetected by Twilight Sparkle after she simply sealed off the minor pool with a large boulder, they continued to slowly spread throughout the cave system and eventually into the wider world.
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 >>/5995/
Dolores Umbridge 
This is the most prominent. When we first occupied this place we had found there was several word filters in place, one of which filtered Glimglam's name to Dolores Umbridge, which we believe was done to negatively compare her to a Harry Potter character of the same name (not really a Harry Potter fan so I don't know anything about the exact details of why but I think it was psychopathy?). We were so amused by the name that we left the filter in. We took the "bridge" out of Umbridge and made it her primary defining trait. This isn't extremely well defined but the consistent thread are that she takes pride in the bridges she builds which is her special talent. She also is often a bridge herself in various forms.  before her being memed as a Longpony was cool.  We often allude her as a sort of caretaker or guardian of the board and is the most common motif represented in our limited "iconography". Any references to bridges, keeping the bridges crossed, etc, is to her. Often used in board milestones such as  >>/6000/ 

Bat Cadence
This one is second place.  We have our own somewhat established take on her. More positive she is a freespirit. Perhaps she is blowing off energy from the stress of her more happy face she has to put on and wants to blow off stress. Maybe it's a bit darker than that. In this green she is a mysterious figure who tries to convince Apple Bloom to pursue her urges towards strange and violent imagery with the implication that one shouldn't completely hide there darker urges  >>/3835/ (a bit edgy ain't it?). She also has been given the spotlight other times. We used her sometimes as figure to reference /endpone/'s status in the middle of nowhere. Her and Cadence as a whole have been sometimes used as a contrarian symbolism to Celestia, Luna and Twilight.   

Stressed Cadence
I guess this is a distant 3rd. This is another take of Cadence. She would be used in shitposts and gets with extremely poor drawings that I can't even find at the moment. Her only trait is that is extremely fearful of Dolores building bridges and drawing negative attention/bad luck (/endpone/ continuing to hit milestones) and that she would pass out or freak out from GETS or other events that were positive for the board. Has been largely replaced by Bat Cadence but echos of her sometimes are still referenced. 

I suppose there maybe other candidates. Us using other more obscure characters for symbolism consistently or OCs that are endemic to here but used like once or twice but of anything that I would consider characters with defined traits that have been used relatively consistently across shitposts, memes, and limited fics/greens it would be these 3.

Ponei

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 >>/5897/
You know. I'm adding this to my fic thread todo list. I have some stuff to say...

 >>/6002/
Poni Pony PONE?

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 >>/6010/
>  I have some stuff to say...
Looking forward to it.

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 >>/5995/
see  >>/6001/

 >>/6001/
> I suppose there maybe other candidates. Us using other more obscure characters for symbolism consistently or OCs that are endemic to here 
despite having the intentions to share pictures of seaponies (me personally though) and writing stories of OCs for a political revolution, a bat pony OC or even an entire cast with subtleties thrown throughout the entire story in a poisonous manner, all of these fall short and haven´t become all that transcendental or at least, they haven´t reached the level that both the Glim Glam bridge or the Bat Cadence hold here. Same goes to the thread dedicated for feedback, none of those stories have had that level of impact because they haven´t been exposed in /endpone/ as original content intended for the board (despite discussing the ideas behind them) so they come as more spontaneous/external material. 

Perhaps one could say that this board is more familiar with certain IDW characters like the ones I am displaying here (and Cosmos got her story here by the way  >>/5108/) but again...

> but used like once or twice but of anything that I would consider characters with defined traits that have been used relatively consistently across shitposts, memes, and limited fics/greens it would be these 3.
we would have to go back to this point right here and check what is actually iconic here and nothing comes close to those two figures yet.

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 >>/5999/
> This type of critter was created when not all the Pinkie Pie's went in as into the mirror pool as cleanly as Twilight thought.
*shivers after reading this

> they continued to slowly spread throughout the cave system and eventually into the wider world.
ladies and gentlecolts, Equestria is going to have its own pandemic just that it hasn´t been reported yet.

> This is more of a horror prompt than fun posting isn't it?
well, sometimes the worst scenes happen when they smile in public pretending that nothing is happening when in reality, the most atrocious events are being hidden from the rest.

That is to say, simply follow Brave New World´s formula and there you have your genuinely horrifying story.

 >>/5998/
> I raise you a far superior mashup.
> Linkin Park´s mashup with DT
edgy teenagers are having an existential episode again....but with MLP and a little bit more colourf...greyish.


> I can confirm on multiple ends that's the same for me as well including tor.
except that I should have mentioned this. On my mobile phone, the videos with the mp4 format work but the webm don´t run at all. It says and I am quoting this error that appears in a grey screen: "No video with supported format and MIME type found" and I have checked that out with  >>/5988/. On PC, there are no problems at all though.

 >>/5997/
> There is something I have to tend too soon and that only adds to the mood.
not only low res screencaps but I believe that you have saved the thumbnails here. This happened to me when I had to transfer the picture from my mobile to the PC and one entire folder had the entire gallery filled with thumbnails. I didn´t realize about that different at first but when you see that low quantity of KB or resolution, you notice that those images aren´t the most fitting ones to post out there.

I imagine that the screencaps were taken with the 380p resolution that you talked about a few months ago.

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now, diving into the Them´s Fighting Herds territory and EVO online...

 >>/5996/
> I had always herd of Nintendo's ineptitude when it came to internet (weren't they the last to have online connectivity?) but this is something else. Admittedly I haven't kept the best track of Mane6 team that well and TFH.
well, if you want to know how AWFUL the online that Nintendo offers to the players, I am linking this video that explains, not only the troubles with Smash but also, how different netcodes work and how Nintendo players have to deal with all these problems by paying Nintendo´s online (as they are exposed in pic related, which is armed robbery but their fans dig it for...reasons) :

https://youtube.com/watch?v=IU8thk6JnwA

Why was Nintendo cut from EVO and TFH entered in the lineup instead? 
If you are not going to watch the video, I will try to sum it up. There are two types of netcode here: 1) Delay Based Netcode and 2) GGPO or Rollback Netcode.

The former has been used in all the Japanese games and this becomes more apparent in fighting games in which every frame matters. One of the players´ systems has to send inputs to the other console or PC and by doing so, there are a few frames of delay during the process but as the online is varies according to the region and/or wifi service of each user, this does add the problem that more frames of delay can appear in the middle of the input delivery. This netcode is used broadly in Japan  and, as we are talking about an island of a small size, Japanese companies don´t feel the need to change the netcode because the connectivity in their country is consistent among Japanese players. However, you can´t afford this in the Americas nor in Europe because their sizes are bigger and so, the lag becomes more apparent because of the distance between the players.

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However, there is another netcode to use for these games: the Rollback one. This one consists in delivering the same amount of inputs by processing the game several times and as a result, those frames of delay stay the same throughout the entire online match as though you are playing in the offline mode. Western developers (especially the US) have to resort to this netcode and so, all the 4 games featured in EVO  that have an open tournament share this same netcode and why all of them come from the West.

TFH and Skullgirls have a lot in common because the MANE6 team has also integrated the same Rollback netcode that Skullgirls uses. Funnily enough, the rollback netcode has been free for months so Japanese developers have no excuse to not use it at all. Because of this lack of delay that this rollaback netcode offers, this edition of EVO could be used as a wake-up call, especially Nintendo.

While it´s true that DBZ Fighter Z lags a lot, Smash Bros Ultimate ranks at the bottom of its league in terms of netcode. The offline mode (the baseline) gives 6 frames of delay (instead of 3 like Melee did) and the Switch could have struggled at running the game at 60 FPS with those graphics. Because of the Switch being a handheld system, Nintendo cannot change the netcode nor they won´t downgrade the graphics in order to implement the rollback one.

What´s worse is that they don´t seem to care about the fan feedback nor they want Smash to be seen as a competitive game (they consider it a party game) and so, some of the characters in the roster become absolutely broken/overpowered in the online mode because of the added frames for reacting to the movements of your opponent. 

Some are starting to conspire about this lack of Smash and there are a few that are starting to speculate that Nintendo could have denied its permission to show Smash´s online. It would have turned into an utter mess and they would have received lots of bad press. They didn´t do their homework and so, they have to leave the event with their heads down.

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and in contrast,  TFH comes into the big leagues and achieves its placement in this event. 
 
 >>/5996/
> Think about this: Most works that are influenced by MLP were just copycats or cameos. This actually bares the mark of FiM in actual influence and style. That's what makes me smile the most.
what´s even better is that the fighting game community (FGC) hasn´t gone all that reluctant as I expected. In fact, they welcome the fact that Smash was removed and see TFH as an advantage for them because this game has the rollback netcode that the community wants to have for their games.

There have articles praising the development behind the game and how this whole process has paid off in such a great manner that they are getting a huge advertisement for their effort:

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/05/how-a-rejected-my-little-pony-game-helped-save-a-historic-tournament/

Not to mention that the FGC was familiar with MLP way back in 2013 when Fighting is Magic appeared in the exhibition lineup so they had a first contact long ago. The stigma is still there but as the explosive hype around the franchise is gone, they are judging the game for what it is and reviewers have admitted that this game is competent enough in order to carry out a tournament of this level.  

This proves that image doesn´t matter here. The development team managed to assemble all the required technicalities and a few days after its official release, it has entered in EVO and surprised everyone all of a sudden. 

What I have said in my previous posts might sound off topic or too detailed for what it is but it´s a huge twist from the outside. TFH has a lot to gain with this event because it´s going to be its main method to advertise itself and encourage a few newcomers who aren´t familiar with the game to step in and force them to get rid of the "girly" or "cartoonish" stigma while playing it. 

So far, I think that  mostly everyone has welcomed the change of Smash with TFH (and Skullgirls as well) and all these posts explain why the "infamous autistic image" on the internet  (of this fanbase) doesn´t matter at all for this tournament, technicalities and requirements of quality do matter for establishing which game gets in or not in the end. 

That´s the lesson one can extract from this whole story.

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Those comments in the article linked are reminding me of 2012. I hate and love being reminded of the time. 


 >>/6016/
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This is a good run down of Nindon'ts  latest idiocy that I'm going to cap this for future sharing. 

 >>/5996/
> This actually bares the mark of FiM in actual influence and style. That's what makes me smile the most.
As faggy as it sounds me too. My only concern being that positive attention it gets draws in outsiders who ruin it. I hope that just becomes this nice game with a healthy semi-adjacent fandom that everyone can enjoy.

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 >>/6011/
I don't have much to say so I'll say it here. Your fics to me seem like a more well thought out than simple wish fullfillment self incert fics. There is some intereting concepts that make up for possible cringe and I'm not sure if I'd say it's that cringy at all. Though I'd say that you need to ask yourself what your goal is before deciding on a path on some of the concepts you and the /endpone/ies [spoiler]/endpone/fags? /pone/r fags?[spoiler] have been discussing before you get decide to pen anything down so you don't run into writters block as easily.

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 >>/6022/
> Those comments in the article linked are reminding me of 2012. I hate and love being reminded of the time.
ironically, the first real contact that I had with MLP was when I saw a video full of comments on Youtube among bronies and antibronies. I had a great time laughing at how people could unironically enjoy a little girls series while the other side was leaving the salt in public. These kind  of fights were the first reason to get interest in this franchise. Fans trigger an overreaction from outsiders and then, the thread of mixed reactions begin. I still enjoy seeing these to this day (but not as much as I did back then because the arguments are mostly the same and really predictable) 

> This is a good run down of Nindon'ts latest idiocy that I'm going to cap this for future sharing.
I could have criticized and ripped Smash way more than what I exposed in those posts but I mostly stayed in the netcode problem because that was the main issue in order to understand the changes in the lineup. Smash not being at EVO is simply a symptom and fans of that game have accepted the absence because it was well deserved. Even a fanmade Melee emulated on PC delivers a better online than Ultimate. Let that sink in...

The fighting game of the year in 2019 and the one that has brought the biggest numbers in EVO´s history...has been dropped in exchange of games that offer a much better online service (netcode) without paying and has way less budget for their development. Life has many twists and we all might have witnessed one that will be really unlikely to repeat in the future.

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 >>/6022/
> I hope that just becomes this nice game with a healthy semi-adjacent fandom that everyone can enjoy.
that´s what we all want to happen but I am going to be the killjoy here...

> My only concern being that positive attention it gets draws in outsiders who ruin it. 
TFH integrating in the EVO lineup is a huge achievement that one cannot overlook at all but let´s keep our hooves on earth, shall we?

Sure the popularity might rise and it can perfectly be integrate naturally in the category of competitive fighting games (it might have already accomplished that) but not everything is as bright and colourful as it looks. Becoming a part of EVO implies that TFH will be put under the radar of the entire fighting game community (FGC) and you know what that means, the same philosophy that the FGC has had might be translated on this game as well. I am already imagining the classic Smash vs FGC debates but with TFH involved in the middle of it.

On the bright side, bronies are seen as one of the greatest peaks of autism/degeneration on the internet so the problems from the FGC might not affect all that much because the fanbase is immune  to all kinds of negative criticism from the outside. Either way, relatively speaking, this change might end up being a trifle in comparison to what the fanbase dealt in the past.

Still, we´ll see how the chemistry gets developed in the upcoming months and how this EVO tournament plays out.

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 >>/6022/
> Those comments in the article linked are reminding me of 2012. I hate and love being reminded of the time. 

On the one hand: early fan fics, fan projects taking off, a general feel of "innocence" even in the drama.

On the other: Bronypride. Need I say more? Yeah I can see why one would have mixed feelings. 

> My only concern being that positive attention it gets draws in outsiders who ruin it. I hope that just becomes this nice game with a healthy semi-adjacent fandom that everyone can enjoy.

I don't know the internal dynamics of the fighting community all that well. I agree on the fear though.

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 >>/6029/
> Still, we´ll see how the chemistry gets developed in the upcoming months and how this EVO tournament plays out.

It seems to be getting a extremely positive reaction so far from the forum, news discusions, and youtube vids and comments so far. Even saw a guy go from almost laughing at it to taking it seriously. A lot outside thee fandom were calling it the pony game which to me is a double edged sword; after so many who built themselves up on us just move onto generic /co/ and furry projects  while seemingly often pretending the pony phase didn't exist  It's nice to see something from our fandom and inspired so clearly from FiM get acknowledgment and recognition from outsiders of being from that. Yet I too would hope that they build there own identity and not be stuck with that label. 

I guess will have ta wait and see.

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 >>/6032/
> I don't know the internal dynamics of the fighting community all that well. I agree on the fear though.
that fear is reasonably understandable because the fanbase has stayed quite independent so far (and it will remain that way) but getting along with a different audience who isn´t deep into this franchise...it hasn´t experienced that yet.

However, despite the stigma of ""ponies"" appearing in the game (save Oleander, I am not seeing any other one in the roster),the players who are used to playing other fighting games can easily move to this game because the mechanics don´t feel alien at all. This might not sound really important but I believe that TFH does have a chance to avoid the drama within the FGC,mostly because it doesn´t fall under the question of being a fighting game or not. 

I am saying this because beyond the appearance, it falls short for building up any controversies to those people. The game doesn´t have any aerial mechanics that change the dynamic nor the gameplay. That is to say, TFH can gain some respect among the FGC and in the end, the arguments between the fans will be aiming towards the endless vicious circle among Smash fans and the rest.  
 
 >>/6033/
> It seems to be getting a extremely positive reaction so far from the forum, news discusions, and youtube vids and comments so far. Even saw a guy go from almost laughing at it to taking it seriously. 
I have been checking out the reactions from them as well and yeah, I am not noticing any frictions from those who are into the fighting games and the fanbase. Maybe they will say that bronies are weirdos (as usual) but it´s highly unlikely that elitism comes into play here. 

> A lot outside thee fandom were calling it the pony game which to me is a double edged sword; after so many who built themselves up on us just move onto generic /co/ and furry projects while seemingly often pretending the pony phase didn't exist
hypocrisies and projections will always exist. /co/ doesn´t want to remember what happened in the past and it adapted a reluctant attitude towards MLP in general as if they want to leave those years as the missing links that is seen as taboo. 

And sadly (we have talked about this before), former fans of MLP who decided to abandon the ride adopt this mindset of forgetting anything related to MLP, as if anything personal from them shouldn´t be in public and they delete all the fan material they provided in the past enthusiastically. That pattern is quite depressing to witness (even more when you see the process at the time). I don´t understand that shame of what they loved in the past, much less now considering that the hostility has diminished a lot, and while it´s  still floating around people´s heads, when a few years pass and you are no longer trendy, it won´t matter all that much (in comparison to the early 10s)

> It's nice to see something from our fandom and inspired so clearly from FiM get acknowledgment and recognition from outsiders of being from that. Yet I too would hope that they build there own identity and not be stuck with that label.
I agree with you even though the tag attached to the game looks really challenging to get over it. 

> I guess will have ta wait and see.
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got banned from 4chin for posting this!
its like 2013 again!

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 >>/6043/
Left in the second scruffening, never been back. That place is dead to me.

the second scruffening was the anonfilly right?

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 >>/6045/
pretty sure I was gone by then, but I don't remember what exactly happened other than a bunch of threads were deleted, a bunch of stupid off-topic spam threads were left up for multiple days, and everybody was mad.

The anon that helped critique my FoE piece, who went by nymphanon, more or less, said he was fleeing to 8ch -- but he didn't stay more than a few weeks, I think. lots had drained back to 4chin but I figured 8ch was stronger in their faith regardless of the sheer volume of halfchan.

I feel I was right, but not only has 8kun's pone died, but the deplatforming has also killed /k/ and /tg/ I think, although I was deleted everytime I posted to /tg/ asking around about MLP themed games.

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 >>/6044/
 >>/6045/
didn´t the 2nd scruffening occur in spring 2016 though? Because I remember that almost the entire catalog disappeared and the roleplay rule came out of nowhere (banning Hi Anon because it was seen as RP)

> said he was fleeing to 8ch -- but he didn't stay more than a few weeks, I think
this right here proves that trying to stay in a permanent exile from /mlp/ fails whenever one promises to one self that he is not going to come back because someday, one returns there without thinking about it. Maybe a few are actually committed to their own convictions at not taking part of that place anymore but hey, never say never again.

I still lurk on /mlp/ and despite displaying huge disagreements/criticisms towards that place, I never said that I wouldn´t come back there nor saying that it´s dead.  Interest simply goes up and down for me but this board (/endpone/), I don´t see it replacing the huge titan of /mlp/ at all. This whole board stands for a side project that spontaneously keeps on going until God knows when. I can´t adapt the mindset of 8kun here.

> not only has 8kun's pone died, but the deplatforming has also killed /k/ and /tg/ 
how many months has 8ch remained out of the map in general because of the trial? 2 months? 3? That period of time kills any candidate that desires to turn into a big player in the imageboard territory.  For a small alternative chan like this one, the inactivity doesn´t cause as many losses as what you have described right here.

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 >>/6043/
Remember, /mlp/ is both "strict" and arbitrary. Though from my experience they have  or at least what I herd from complaining since I often laps in visiting there  been much stricter on NSFW than they already were do to the split into 4channel.

 >>/6046/
Aren't y'all trying to regroup on antares.oss or has that been shuttered?

 >>/6049/
> this right here proves that trying to stay in a permanent exile from /mlp/ fails whenever one promises to one self that he is not going to come back because someday, one returns there without thinking about it. Maybe a few are actually committed to their own convictions at not taking part of that place anymore but hey, never say never again.
It depends on what one defines as not taking part. Is mere occasionally lurking count? A shitpost or two? I'd imagine some would have different definitions and not count the occasional peak or keeping taps the same as calling the board home.

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> Aren't y'all trying to regroup on antares.oss

Via a proxy, I went there ... and the chan has no /pone/
It has in fact, only a half dozen boards and no hidden/unlisted ones, so far as I can tell. So if there was a real effort to migrate there, I couldn't find it.

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 >>/6051/
Well that sucks. It must feel bad to lose such a place. Home is home and I know that place accrued its own culture and way of things. Though I wouldn't say to completely give up hope I will give a  /)  in respect.

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 >>/6046/
 >>/6051/
Hold your horses on declaring 8/pone fully dead just yet. The reason there is no /pone/ is because all perspective boards have to camp out in the misc board to see how many are actually willing to migrate over. Here the onion link for those that wish to use tor with the thread in question.
http://l2sv2h6eoxdu6y6s.onion/misc/res/46.html

I mean if this board of fags can survive and build something resembling a healthy chan, lore, maschots, OC and all.  
 >>/6001/
8/pone/ chan live on even with a handful left.

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Okay... maybe you guys have a winning formula with your edit thread. Just ran this through the kaleidoscope filter on gimp with no other changes and this looks sick and cyberpunk in its own right.

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 >>/6050/
> I'd imagine some would have different definitions and not count the occasional peak or keeping taps the same as calling the board home.
yeah, it always relies on each personal case. What I meant here is that people who promise themselves to not come back to that site, eventually most of them eat up and swallow their own words without anyone asking for that promise.

I suppose that simply lurking over there doesn´t actually count because there is no way to measure that activity/practice (much less when all the users are anonymous)

 >>/6057/
>  The reason there is no /pone/ is because all perspective boards have to camp out in the misc board to see how many are actually willing to migrate over.
so the site is being set and is found in a transitional state now. Well, let´s see if in a few days/weeks, a MLP board can be created over there so you can...

 >>/6058/
> I mean if this board of fags can survive and build something resembling a healthy chan, lore, mascots, OC and all.
> 8/pone/ chan live on even with a handful left.
... do this in any of those sites.  I am sure that a board can actually stay alive with its own pace but the problem relies on the mindset and/or compromise from the users themselves. I mean, sure, this board looks inspiring and others can write down a few tricks for running a MLP board in an altchan. 

I simply stumbled upon a couple of users that have been quite chill and open to new ideas  (and incredibly supportive as well while putting them in practice) so I suppose that the ambient has contributed a lot in order to keep going. Does this count as circlejerking? It does and I won´t deny that but one has to ask what other choices you have out there with so few users in boards of this kind.

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 >>/6059/
> maybe you guys have a winning formula with your edit thread. 
well, it´s funny that you claim that the edit thread is a winning formula when in reality, it represents that we are not actually content creators in terms of drawing new content (there are a few exceptions such as  >>/6001/  >>/5872/) and at first, I wasn´t all that convinced at creating that thread because I thought that I would run into problems for editing without permission (see from  >>/678/ until  >>/685/). Over time, I have been losing that fear and this board has been adding stuff since then that you wouldn´t see in any other places (even though 95-99% of those pictures are registered on Derpi, just that you wouldn´t share them so easily)  

That general  is meant for editing pictures that you wouldn´t post in your average thread (for the most part) and so, its main purpose is the experimentation so that material gains a second life or a new perspective. Bonus points if the actual original picture looks bad on its own and the edit manages to save it. I see that you have been taking notes of that general...

Anyway, that picture is absolutely stunning with that effect and it comes in handy as a poster for a futuristic movie. A very surprising highlight coming from your part.

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It seems I've recently riled up unneeded responses by discussing music.
So, I'll bite. Have you seen music for sale when tuned to the 432hz std? If so, *WHY* ?

Personally I haven't listened to much of anything not presented by Cider Party or P@D for at least five years, and learned of bandcamp via Exiark & Radiarc, et al., before that.

Of course, a decade ago I was trolling youtube for furry music and mostly only able to find furry-still montages set to standard EDM mainstream pieces. Hearing the new-furries come out of the woodwork, their shell, etc to make their own techno has been a breath of fresh air I cannot describe in words.
The world needed brony music. Or at least I did.

Of course not everyone agrees. One coworker threatens to punch me every time he hears me listening to music, holding pony music in an insatiable hatred unmatched by any of his other hatreds.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ oh well.

What music do you guys listen to?

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well, I am changing the discussion of that topic over here so we can discuss the more personal topic on /night/ and the musical one over here:

 >>/6108/
> he mad
I have admitted that I went too direct yesterday but don´t take anything of what I said to personal level. In fact, not sure if you have noticed but I didn´t enter into the musical taste nor I responded with an "It´s shit" response. I simply wanted to portray that the basis behind that premise is at its best, questionable, and at its worst, a scam that wants to take advantage of people who don´t know about this.

I cannot shoot the messenger nor use ad hominem so I didn´t enter into personal matters (unlike the ones that follow your post after responding to this topic on /night/ which are psychological and I have to understand more your personal circumstances) However, as for this musical topic....I´ve seen that movie too. 

> I posted a video with a few minutes of tones, originally posted hoping to encourage healing thoughts, IE a mellow, meditative mood. The uploader speaks about 432/440 elsewhere, though not on this video, so I'm actually just assuming it's tuned to the 432 standard.

> And for comparison I post ... a 4-year old smacking a drum set.It's okay to laugh, as you should have gotten the joke by now.
yeah and I saw the sarcasm word written in yellow text.Just that either way, I decided to bite and considering that we decided to go off topic given that it was already opened, I wanted to clear up a few things from the get-go. 


> Seriously? I've never once in my life heard someone try to sell me something when talking about the 432 standard. 

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=432+hz+music
https://manofnoego.bandcamp.com/album/web-of-life-432hz
https://bandcamp.com/tag/432-hz
https://www.amazon.com/Frequency-Light-Brian-T-Collins/dp/B009XICKH6
https://soundcloud.com/search/albums?q=432%20hz
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4ywKUIMGOo9CC6sYbKlCcb

Most of that music are simply playlists but if one looks closely, one would realize that these artists wouldn´t get any sort of attention whatsoever. If they recorded their music in 440 Hz, they wouldn´t stand out nor find a niche in the market. That is to say, they shield themselves into 432 HZ so they make it sound special and enlightened music (especially for people who are looking for meditative, relaxing or reflective music, that group of people are the target that lure the most with this theory)  and sell it to you as a solution.

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 >>/6108/ 
 >>/6105/
> they recommend avoiding all commercial music because it's unhealthy for you
top 40 has been mostly low quality and appeal to the lowest common denominator...I mean, what´s new with that? By the way, in terms of production, I assume that they blame pop music for being overly compressed (the infamous loudness war by turning up the volume to oblivion. Multinationals believed that the louder, the better) but that practice ended in the 2010s for the most part, not to mention that the underground doesn´t follow the same path as the mainstream artist. 
 
> really? I mean, "Buy our toys REAL HARD" really?
not in the same as you believe. They try to sell the premise of the 432 Hz to you and then, you think about it for a minute, feel enlightened in comparison to the rest of the society because of feeling special by listening to it (and also backing it up that 440 Hz is evil because Goebbels imposed it to annoy people so there is a secret conspiracy that the industry is pursuing you for listening to 432 Hz. When in reality, the ISO approved the 440 Hz standard in 1955, no nazis were involved) and then, after convincing yourself that 432 Hz is the solution, sell their records.

 It´s kind of a reverse formula with Hasbro. You are completely aware that they produce toy commercials but you like it despite acknowledging that the brand was intended in order to sell toys to children. 

> I've seen some okay math. It's from laymen, but it seems plausible. Fibonacci sequence figures heavily into it.
Even then, it´s curious that they left in the numbers constitutions the decimal parts and all of them are well rounded for some reason. Still, I would be the first to read an actual scientific report and see if there are actual discussions from the scientific community (because this belongs to the physics department) but until I don´t see actual studies, reports, interviews, observations that lead that 432 Hz (and I mean with that number alone or a confidence interval whose errors include that number) is the number of the universe....I cannot accredit that at all. I mean if you want to listen to 432 Hz, okay perfect, enjoy it. However, keep in mind...

http://www.miltonline.com/2014/01/07/hertz-so-good/

That most music that you will find in Youtube was recorded in 440 Hz originally and then, a fan would pitch down that recording for that frequency. 
If I were to mention the Fibonacci sequence in music, I would speculate about the Lateralus record made by Tool in 2001. That records does actually mix math with music and it´s praised for many reasons (and the mathematical aspect is an actual feature that was intended to be analyzed for that album)

> I stand by what I said -- the 432 standard yielded a set of chords that felt cooperative, harmonious. The 440 stand sounded raucous. Don't get me wrong, there's a place for raucous music.
That´s because you ear feels oversaturated of listening to music recorded in that frequency. That feeling isn´t all that weird and your ear feel drawn towards different frequencies. That tiring feeling would apply to any frequency in general though.

> if you're wanting something more contemplative, that won't jar your conscious mind, I suspect I'd prefer the 432 stuff.
well, that´s a matter of taste. I mean, that´s up to you for personal enjoyment. All my previous lines are mostly focused on the premise of that slogan of "Music that connects with the universe". If you enjoy it, perfect but I don´t buy the premise at all. What matters the most in music, instead of pointing out what frequency that song/musical piece has, I would focus more on finding good albums because in the end, that´s what will matter the most.

> since I don't buy music anyway, I'll probably just have to take what I can get.
well, then those people won´t take advantage of you, economically speaking.

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 >>/6110/
> constitutions
*constructions

phew, okay. I have posted more than I expected and definitely,it´s better to omit that topic on the /night/ thread. 

Those personal posts are going to be hard to reply though.

Anyway...

 >>/6108/
> Have you seen music for sale when tuned to the 432hz std?
I haven´t been in a record store since January. I bought a Rolling Stones record for my brother as a gift and so far, besides the internet, I haven´t seen once that label of 432 Hz in any record at all.

> Hearing the new-furries come out of the woodwork, their shell, etc to make their own techno has been a breath of fresh air I cannot describe in words.The world needed brony music. Or at least I did.
well, they did respond with a much more effective answer and oh boy, bronies went wild with that scene.

> One coworker threatens to punch me every time he hears me listening to music, holding pony music in an insatiable hatred unmatched by any of his other hatreds.
that coworker must be fun at parties...*rolls eyes

> What music do you guys listen to?
well...unless Bridgefag links me brony music in this board, I don´t listen to MLP related music nor I have followed the scene. I must confess that.

About my musical taste...well, I made this chart on topsters last month. Feel free to see it but it doesn´t skew much from your average /mu/ user. Nothing really amazing honestly (I could have included weirder/more underground records that I don´t listen all that much but that would leave a slightly insincere note from my part in that regard)

 >>/6109/
[buncha links]

TY, I feel informed.

 >>/6111/
> I haven´t been in a record store since January.

I haven't been in a record store since ... Actually, no I haven't. I've been to DVD/CD 2nd-hand-stores. They're an absolute crap shoot but for half to one dollar for a disc, eh. I've been know to take a certain risk.

> it doesn´t skew much from your average /mu/ user
Been there once, for about a week. I had pretty much no idea what they were talking about and I don't think my stay enriched my musical knowledge.

Also, it seems I haven't heard of one song on your list, so there's that. I've heard of the Cure & the Rolling stones, but not heard those songs.
Such is life; my coworker will enthusiastically describe some movie scene, which requires "seeing" the actor to get the image. I've never heard of the actor. He lists six or seven movies he's famous for being in. I've heard of one of them, but never watched it.

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 >>/6108/
Man I have a lot more to say to this music discussion, but I will leave this for now. 
> Radiarc
Good taste right here. What's your fav song?

> Of course not everyone agrees. One coworker threatens to punch me every time he hears me listening to music, holding pony music in an insatiable hatred unmatched by any of his other hatreds.
Does he hate it fully for pony or because of hating a style of music and because its pony? Basically: did the music make him hate the ponies or the ponies make him just write it off? 

> What music do you guys listen to?
Old hits,  Progressive Rock and some related obscure stuff from my Father's influence, A scattering of Pony Music if I were to catagorize it from my uncultured un/mu/sical view. I'll share some links in a bit. 

 >>/6110/
top 40 has been mostly low quality and appeal to the lowest common denominator...I mean, what´s new with that?
One of these things is true one of things is partly true. Though you raised a fair point last time we discussed it I'd like to make the argument that I think that the Top as gotten worse due ta media fragmentation. Impulses (sex) and music based on what will ring in your head the most based on careful research. 
 PoLS IRL stuff has arisen. 

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 >>/6120/
> Good taste right here. What's your fav song?

I've not, it seemed, been keeping close track of late as a month ago I went to his /music page and found stuff I had never heard.
but,
https://radiarc.bandcamp.com/track/bury-me
I've had that on one mix-tape CD after another for more than a year.

Right now I'm enjoying the Forgotten album but all his stuff is good for dark atmospheric pieces.
Exiark's remix of Soldiers of the Night is really good too, although I'll admit to liking Hackd's Fealty remix, though nowhere near as much.
https://exiark.bandcamp.com/track/soldiers-of-the-night-exiark-remix
https://hackd.bandcamp.com/track/fealty-to-the-night-remastered

Lighter pieces include MrMehster's Spirit Animal, Tripon's Ponyheadz, and PCRS's Smile & Wave

PCRS is really good if you have the emotional reaction to the part of the show they're singing about, that they did when they wrote the song. If the lyrics don't grab you by the throat ... they're skilled but it's not great music, just okay. Smile & Wave, though... For an only child, I have a lot of opinions about sibling rivalries.

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Leaving a proof of life shitpost.
 
Still, I wanted to leave something for Bridgefag  >>/6120/

https://youtube.com/watch?v=_wu1V30YLro

> I'd like to make the argument that I think that the Top as gotten worse due ta media fragmentation. Impulses (sex) and music based on what will ring in your head the most based on careful research.
perhaps you are be right about that. 

However, always remember how the music industry works. One day you are the most mainstream/coolest thing in the entire world (and for most people, those singles work as background music) and in a couple of years (or even months), people will give you a kick all of a sudden, leaving you behind because the trendy wagon has been totally exploited .Thus, another new toy will replace it instead that will top the charts until the fuel runs out and ends up broken. Either they earn their loyal fans throughout that process by doing something different or they hop onto the next trend in order to stay relevant in those lists. 

A few icons are safe of this pattern but for the most part, easy-come, easy-go. Perhaps, I will share a few examples of that (including this recent rediscovery for me). 


Sleep well tonight, /endpone/.

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 >>/6119/
> I've been to DVD/CD 2nd-hand-stores. They're an absolute crap shoot but for half to one dollar for a disc, eh. I've been know to take a certain risk.
I´ve been in a few of those and yeah, the presentation leaves...a lot to be desired but what matters the most is that you find a great offer (if you know what you are looking for).

> I had pretty much no idea what they were talking about and I don't think my stay enriched my musical knowledge.
let me sum it up for you. There is even more shitposting and bait threads than /mlp/´s catalog. Except for a few generals, the rest is about displaying elitism, political discussion in certain news and memes about reviewers or certain specific records. 

There are a few tools from /mu/ that anyone should be aware though: 

Topsters (for creating a chart about the records that you like so others can recommend you more stuff that you might like according to what you usually listen to), Rateyourmusic (for knowing the ratings and checking out the discography of each artist and thus, you see the most popular or praised record of that band/musician), Bandcamp/Soundcloud (for supporting small artists directly, you know about this site though), Soulseek (for downloading the albums), Last FM (a media player that recommends you more music according to what you listen without asking anyone else) and the /mu/ sticky as a guide for everything about that board (the records they normally like and what language they use in certain threads):

https://rateyourmusic.com/
https://www.neverendingchartrendering.org/
https://www.slsknet.org/news/
https://bandcamp.com/
https://www.last.fm/
http://4chanmusic.wikia.com/wiki/Sticky


Without lurking on that board, I am introducing all the material that the board uses in a daily basis. I could also add Discogs for buying a specific release of any record, it´s almost like an Amazon/Wikipedia shop that displays all the versions fabricated over time of any specific album. 

After using this post as a huge advertisement of that board, at least, I have shown here a fair amount of features in order to understand how it works.

In a board about ponies...yeah, because it totally makes sense. Still, it should be useful for anyone really so despite describing the core behind /mu/, this should work for anything related to music on the internet in general.

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I have to end it up right here.  Tomorrow I will finish what I´ve got left.

Goodnight, folks.

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 >>/6120/
> Though you raised a fair point last time we discussed it I'd like to make the argument that I think that the Top as gotten worse due ta media fragmentation. Impulses (sex) and music based on what will ring in your head the most based on careful research.
before I comment this with much more depth and replying beforehand to your point, I will wait for your detailed point of view.

 >>/6121/
ironically enough, I have found the covers of their albums on Topsters (even though Exiark doesn´t appear and the latest releases from Radiarc are not registered yet)

 >>/6119/
> Also, it seems I haven't heard of one song on your list, so there's that. I've heard of the Cure & the Rolling stones, but not heard those songs.
well, I could have included The Beatles (Revolver) and The Beach Boys (Pet Sounds) for displaying that I like quite a bit the most popular artists ever (and this week, I have been considering if I should add The Cardigans). All of these are albums (not songs) and while I admit that not all these albums are instantly recognizable from an outsider, in the music community, they are very popular (not top 40 for the radio but still, the number of fans for those band are quite overwhelming) and really praised (check Rateyourmusic and you will see how high their average scores are)  so I cannot afford to show elitism for listening to extremely unknown underground music only (because I don´t)

By the way,only The Cure and The Stones? I mean, don´t get me wrong but I am a little bit surprised because I included Eric Clapton (Derek and The Dominos was a coded name for his band), Pink Floyd, Supertramp, David Bowie, Radiohead, ELO, Rush (and to an extent, New Order, The Smiths and Aphex Twin) . These ones are pretty hard to leave out (even in the internet age) but hey, everything fades over time, I guess.

However, I am noticing a pattern that you seem to feel more invested for single songs rather than entire albums. Though it totally makes sense, especially now that Spotify exists and people create their own playlists or simply get carelessly driven by custom playlists according to their mood at the time. Music has historically worked as a ritual more than anything else so perhaps, we are going back to the roots in that regard.

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> well, I could have included 
Same deal, have heard of the band, don't know any of their songs (and I actively despise the music of the beatles. Most covers are good, but the originals make me want to gouge my ears out)

>   I included Eric Clapton, Pink Floyd, Supertramp, David Bowie, Radiohead, ELO, Rush

Didn't those named in the text on the right, didn't recognize any of the album art. I have heard of all of them, barring ELO. Again, don't think I could hear any of their music in my head from the song title alone.

The only time I ever listened to on-radio music was when I was going to college in the '90s. So I recognize most grunge bands, songs but not much else.

>   I am noticing a pattern that you seem to feel more invested for single songs rather than entire albums

Absolutely. There was like, one album I've encountered, that felt like it was trying to be a cohesive whole. No idea the cover for it; I think it was by Queensryche but don't quote me on that.
I recall liking nearly everything from Smashing Pumpkin's "Mellon Collie & the Infinite Sadness" and there's a Pearl Jam album that doesn't seem to have a name that I feel that way about too (had Animal, possibly Glorified B, I think the artwork was a sheep stuck in a fence).
But individual songs are what we listen to, and also I resent nearly everything about the music industry so that's part of it, too.

 >>/6121/
> I've not, it seemed, been keeping close track of late as a month ago I went to his /music page and found stuff I had never heard.
TBH, I have never kept that well track of most of the artist who I listen to in general.  

> Right now I'm enjoying the Forgotten album but all his stuff is good for dark atmospheric pieces.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ahgCHftyO4Y
If I had to choose one it'd be this one. I suppose its edgy but its  been there so long it's kind of a haunting nostalgia to me. 

> Exiark's remix of Soldiers of the Night is really good too, although I'll admit to liking Hackd's Fealty remix, though nowhere near as much.
I'm trying to recall when or even if I heard the original. I've always focused more on instrumentals or songs that used samples from the show. As for those remixs I'm not sure if either is my cup of tea but Exiark's does sound with a odd haunting melancholy at points that kind of enjoy. 

Here is a sampling of what type pony music I tend to listen to. 
https://youtube.com/watch?v=obJ21k3Hylo
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lrYwLP04rSo
https://rc88.bandcamp.com/album/8-bit-ponies
https://youtube.com/watch?v=87wE2e0gYbg
https://soundcloud.com/simon_hjort/twilights-battle-theme
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-DYdTa0gDKQ

 >>/6108/
> The world needed brony music. Or at least I did.
Do you consider some of are music to be our own genres? It was an assertions that have seen be made without ever knowing what would have define our music other than being related to pony. Yet when I here songs that draw from dubstep, youtube poops and mix it with other styles with a technical skill that gradually got pretty advanced I'm temped to call that something. 

 >>/6122/
> However, always remember how the music industry works. One day you are the most mainstream/coolest thing in the entire world (and for most people, those singles work as background music) and in a couple of years (or even months), people will give you a kick all of a sudden, leaving you behind because the trendy wagon has been totally exploited 
Heck I remember seeing this being refferced in shows made in the 1960s! Yeah I agree. In fact...

> perhaps you are be right about that. 
I'd actually say that it isn't really much of a counter to your previous stances. More of an observation to add to it. 

> . Perhaps, I will share a few examples of that (including this recent rediscovery for me). 
I at least want to see the rediscovery.

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 >>/6131/
> that Fluttershy pic
lmao

> I actively despise the music of the beatles. Most covers are good, but the originals make me want to gouge my ears out
well don´t believe that I hold them on a pedestal either (they were kind of a prototype for the future boybands that would come out). However, I should be fair with them and say that their material released from Rubber Soul onwards is what makes them stand out without their hype. Their voices haven´t irked me so far though.

> I have heard of all of them, barring ELO
> The only time I ever listened to on-radio music was when I was going to college in the '90s. So I recognize most grunge bands, songs but not much else.
phew, I swear, I was actually asking myself where you were coming from because if those bands sound unfamiliar, then either it was me who was wrong and thus, I should update myself with the times or you didn´t recognize any of these album covers. Given that you have confirmed me that you are more into singles and stand alone songs, it all makes sense.
After seeing these replies, I have finally felt relieved in that regard because what you have mentioned here is a very familiar territory.

> There was like, one album I've encountered, that felt like it was trying to be a cohesive whole. No idea the cover for it; I think it was by Queensryche but don't quote me on that.
you mean this one? https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/queensryche/operation-mindcrime/

> there's a Pearl Jam album that doesn't seem to have a name that I feel that way about too (had Animal, possibly Glorified B, I think the artwork was a sheep stuck in a fence).
Vs.
There you have it. https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/pearl-jam/vs/

> I recall liking nearly everything from Smashing Pumpkin's "Mellon Collie & the Infinite Sadness"
I was wondering if you were into dream pop  and this kind of confirms you are into dreamy rock material. Mellon Collie lasts two entire hours, the fact that this double album has managed to conquer you almost in its entirety speaks volumes about its quality. Along with Siamese Dream (even though certain fans are praising Adore in these recent years), you can´t go wrong with any of those two records. Top quality release from the 90s. 

> But individual songs are what we listen to, and also I resent nearly everything about the music industry so that's part of it, too.
I perfectly understand that philosophy. The music industry holds lots of dark holes and strategies of marketing that don´t stand out for being clean exactly (contracts, copyright..). In fact, the mainstream trends aren´t coincidental at all (some people call this conspiracy but the same practices have been kept for decades so it´s far from a secret honestly, there is no need to enter into a /pol/ or /x/  vicious circle here).

But yeah, custom playlists for specific songs are a great strategy for displaying what you like directly, skipping any filler material according to you.

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 >>/6132/
> I remember seeing this being referenced in shows made in the 1960s!
we are doomed to repeat ourselves, aren´t we? This reinforces the fact that there are universal patterns/thoughts that will get remixed in its own circumstances on the surface but still sharing the same values at its core. Without seeing those shows, those people have noticed how this industry works...and it hasn´t changed all that much.

> I'd actually say that it isn't really much of a counter to your previous stances. More of an observation to add to it.
I partially gave you the reason but I could actually counter argue that added observation. Keep in mind that everything that we remember from the past is projected in a vacuum. That is to say, we tend to believe that the past was better because we forget the stuff that was bad from those times. Sure, you remember hits from The Beatles, Pink Floyd, disco music, Queen, The Cure, new wave with bands like Pet Shop Boys, New Order or Depeche Mode, Bowie, Prog Rock bands, Simon And Garfunkel, Dire Straits...and these artists have also made albums that still have a huge relevancy even for the youngest generations. What happens here? It is really hard to get artists like those, everyone would love to see a top 40/Billboard 200 filled with top quality songs from musicians of that level.

However, does this mean that my generation is the worst? Far from it and it won´t be the last to be described with the negative adjectives (I have also felt like a granny within my own generation at times, by the way). Anyone can judge what are the most popular songs  by simply seeing the weekly top lists and say that the music is terrible (which I am not going to deny it) but one shouldn´t forget that previous decades have had to deal with these problems as well but people don´t bring them up because bad stuff doesn´t stand the test of time (for the most part). Should I remember to you such meaningful lines sung in the past to the masses such as...?

> "Sugar duh duh duh duh duh. Ooooh honey,honey"
> "Yummy Yummy I´ve got love in my tummy and as silly as it may seem" 
> "She Loves You, yeah, yeah, yeah!" (this one is from The Beatles by the way)
> "Who Let the Dogs Out?!"
> "I'm a Barbie girl in a Barbie world. Life in plastic, it's fantastic"

And even by not following the sappy love songs or the thoughtless trends, adults have thought about kids going insane and too rebellious or explicit with rock, then metal, rap and even the 90s has also suffered one of the scenes that was filled with those topics with more insults, childish lyrics and impulses kids and teenagers to be cool and encourage them to act like try hards: nu-metal. It eventually died because of its dated quality and lack of evolution, ending up stagnant after a few years. So, you might say that music now impulses sex but eventually, another trend will replace it and will get criticized either for being too bland (like indie in the 2000s), inoffensive because of lack of meaningful message (boybands, cheesy childish songs) or even, the mainstream could be criticized for becoming too political in its lyrics. These are a few examples. 

Not to mention that music in the mainstream is listened mostly by casual people. That doesn´t mean those people cannot understand or listen to more developed songs. They simply follow an easy route to spend their time without investing much effort in finding anything specific. Nothing else. The top mainstream lists are simply an indicator of what´s popular during that period of time but they don´t represent the whole spectrum of what people actually listen to at all.

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 >>/6132/
> at least want to see the rediscovery.
well, I have actually mentioned it before and this band isn´t experimental nor underground. That rediscovery is The Cardigans.  >>/6122/

Anyone could come up here and say: "Hey, isn´t that a one-hit wonder band ?" It is (well, technically three-hit wonders with Lovefool, My Favorite Game and Erase/Rewind).

The general trend with one-hit wonders follows this marketing strategy: they get a huge hit that is displayed in the radio all the time, you wonder if that popular song was created by a good band, you believe that buying the record which contains the hit would be a worthy listen and by the time you paid it, you realize that record relies on filler beyond that famous song that impulsed you to buy it, ending up in a personal disappointment (or even treachery)  for spending your money in a record which wasn´t all that satisfying like you initially expected. Those bands/artists are only relevant because of that song in particular and they don´t have any record that stands out on its own in their catalog. 

So, people either avoid albums and only rely on greatest hits records or they study the worthy releases without focusing on the popular singles. I set the bar pretty low when it comes to bands of this kind.

What happens with the Cardigans? By judging their huge hit, Lovefool, one would conclude that they are an average band that got lucky and they would be forgotten beyond that song. The lyrics aren´t all that deep either so you imply beforehand that their quality would be equal or worse than that.

However, I have found myself quite  surprised by the fact that people are visiting their records these days and one of them (Long Gone Before Daylight):
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/the-cardigans/long-gone-before-daylight/

holds a very high average (3.62 is really high for that site) and has been claimed as a great release. My thoughts get encountered by the fact that people could praise the Cardigans as a band when I have always held them as a band intended for sappy love lyrics or as a guilty pleasure ("Love me love me. Say that you love me. Fool me fool me.Go on and fool me"). But nope, their known singles don´t represent at all what they actually are. So changing my mindset of taking them as one-hit wonders to a band that create albums is a huge change of perspective. The album doesn´t display any huge change of quality in the tracklist, it´s consistent all the way through (and quite mature).

And I´ve got to admit, I haven´t clicked on the skip button at all. Not having to skip any track feels really gratifying for an album listener. They earn my respect for achieving that quality front to back. I wouldn´t imagine that I would listen to this band in 2020 with a more serious point of view but hey, life is full of twists and surprises. 

Last but not least important, they stayed in the top of the lists during the 90s but after 4 years of inactivity, people had moved on by that point. Despite having a huge distributor on their back, this release only sold well in Sweden. They went from the top of the charts to an indie chamber pop band, hence my explanation of giving you a kick from the mainstream overnight. They didn´t matter for those standards in 2003 and the album was  relatively hard to find beyond their homeland (from selling millions of records to a few thousands). Sure, they are popular but they don´t have any chance to reach those lists so easily.

So, this band kind of serves me to explain how the mainstream works and the unexpected change of my opinion towards a seemingly innocent one hit wonder after all this time.

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> "I'm a Barbie girl in a Barbie world. Life in plastic, it's fantastic"

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 >>/6121/
Some of this sounds really odd. Some of it good. Some shit.

 >>/6137/
> The general trend with one-hit wonders follows this marketing strategy: they get a huge hit that is displayed in the radio all the time, you wonder if that popular song was created by a good band, you believe that buying the record which contains the hit would be a worthy listen and by the time you paid it, you realize that record relies on filler beyond that famous song that impulsed you to buy it, ending up in a personal disappointment (or even treachery) for spending your money in a record which wasn´t all that satisfying like you initially expected. 
Really? My impression has always been that one hit wonders were usually bands that just didn't stick for a variety of reasons both internal and external. But I have only scattered knowledge of the mainstream and obscure and much of it stops past 2000.

> And I´ve got to admit, I haven´t clicked on the skip button at all. Not having to skip any track feels really gratifying for an album listener. They earn my respect for achieving that quality front to back. I wouldn´t imagine that I would listen to this band in 2020 with a more serious point of view but hey, life is full of twists and surprises.
Can't complain at pleasant surprises. 

>  They didn´t matter for those standards in 2003 and the album was relatively hard to find beyond their homeland (from selling millions of records to a few thousands). Sure, they are popular but they don´t have any chance to reach those lists so easily.
Music is hard to break in or stay in. I could go on with further thoughts on media fragmentation but you get the gist. 

> My Favorite Game
Funny story with this one as their is this one PMV that I have often run into over the years that uses this song. It is not something that I'd call my favorite thing in the world but do to running in to it and it sticking with me it left a bit of haunting nostalgia. I've heard the other Lovefool before but not Erase/Rewind. I think but My Favorite Game I became familiar with for that reason. Though I never looked into the band perhaps I will even if it ain't my normal cup of tea.
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 >>/6142/
That's a pretty good way of wording all pony music I suppose.

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How is your austism holding up?

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 >>/6153/
I wish I could hold up with that because it means that I would have lots of free time. Technically I have but it has diminished quite a bit during these last few days because June has always been that infamous month for studying and having a possibility to progress.

Even during those times of being busy, if one organizes time schedule properly, one can write fanfics and still pass important tests [/spoiler] and I am talking from experience[/spoiler]

So, if I had to measure my autism nowadays, it would be quite low.

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 >>/6146/
> Really? My impression has always been that one hit wonders were usually bands that just didn't stick for a variety of reasons both internal and external. But I have only scattered knowledge of the mainstream and obscure and much of it stops past 2000.
on one hand, you are right that one-hit wonders don´t stick to the public nor any scene in particular when it comes to albums. On the other hand, despite attempting to release more singles out of those albums, the radios always cherrypick one of those singles and the rest doesn´t matter. They do stick in terms of selling tons of copies with that famous song but as a listener, would you come back to that album as a whole so you listen to it front to back (or at least a good amount of songs) or would you simply listen to that famous single in a playlist/compilation with the greatest hits of other bands?

People tend to do the latter (for the most part) despite that the internet has prevented to buy the records first and check the entire album. Nowadays, that trend has changed lately (and the non-singles sometimes beat the popularity of the main singles in terms of views) but before this cybernetic space, good luck at trusting to the famous song alone.

 >Can't complain at pleasant surprises.
especially when the one-hit wonder that I have traditionally listened in the radio over the years was Lovefool, you can imagine how low my bar was set towards them (not that it offends me or anything. It´s simply that I would rather listen to other songs instead). If I only knew that My Favorite Game came from them as well...

> Music is hard to break in or stay in.
definitely, especially when it comes to the mainstream and breaking through a decent amount of popularity. Those two challenges are hard to accomplish and with this one, I wanted to show how the trends change and despite complaining about the current day every time that one looks at top of the charts, it proves that the period of prominence doesn´t always last too long.  All trends/mainstream bands come and go.

> Funny story with this one as their is this one PMV that I have often run into over the years that uses this song. 
it´s about Rainbow Dash when it comes to her speed... yeah, it fits because the original video consists in driving a roadster with several clips that could have perfectly proceeded from a Hollywood action film. 

> It is not something that I'd call my favorite thing in the world but do to running in to it and it sticking with me it left a bit of haunting nostalgia. 
considering that all the material used was from the first two seasons, it was clearly made during the early era. 

> I've heard the other Lovefool before but not Erase/Rewind.
me neither. Erase/Rewind had more radio play in other countries of Europe (Denmark, Sweden and a few other ones) but in my country, Lovefool became the first pick to use for the radios by a very long mile.  
 
> I think but My Favorite Game I became familiar with for that reason. Though I never looked into the band perhaps I will even if it ain't my normal cup of tea.
ironic that MLP (a fanmade video) introduced you to that song. Now, about the albums...I haven´t dived all that deep but let me tell you that the singles represent a quite skewed sample from what you would expect. If I had to pick one album from them, I would personally choose Long Gone Before Daylight because it really feels like an actual album. Others prefer Life or Gran Turismo but eh, I suppose they have their reasons to like those...

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 >>/6147/
> That's a pretty good way of wording all pony music I suppose.
pony music is quite random when it comes to quality though I have to admit that I have given a few spins to the instrumentals linked in your post   >>/6132/ and in the /moon/ thread. Those are great. 

Not a big fan of the electronic ones though.

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While I can agree that bronies aren't always accomplished singers, I truly appreciate some of the songs they sing in.

Some.
But as much as I like 'new lunar republic' Eurobeat's ESL bad-grammar drives me UP A WALL every time I try to listen to another remix/reinvention (with original lyrics) of Luna ('infinite despise' can in no way become valid English, and 'force-ed back into the start' is, as sung at least, very weak)
And all the PMVs of lullaby for a princess get the underlying concept of "limelight" wrong. The video completely cuts away from Celestia just as she sings "the limelight so sweetly takes hold of its host"
DO YOU NOT KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS!?!?!?
It means Celestia was to "busy" to see how fast her baby sister was going downhill.

//pant//pant//pant//pant
okay that's enough from me on this topic.
'glitchop' was, I think, invented by the bronies (prove me wrong?) using vocal show-clips _as_ the music. Those are always fun.
I actually came here for something else but lost an hour looking for a decent animated PP, breathless and expended after that wall of text up there.

Have a sleepy kitty instead.

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okay here's what I came to discuss before I drive off to work.

Dreams.

Do yours have sound? Color? I know it used to be claimed nobody dreams in color but I can tell you that's wrong - I remember the visuals, and color is a big part of the composition of the shot.
But my dreams are always 3rd-person, and there's no sound. The dialogue is done by understanding, and the same is true of some scenes that have unstated labels.

Not that I can picture this from any dream I've had, but still, imagine:
There are people walking in, out of an office building. Why is this sinister?
Because the labels, the understanding, is the office is owned and operated by the ministry of Image, but every single person walking in and out is on Ministry of Awesome's payroll. What are they doing in a competing governmental entity? Not a one, like a report of some special project that calls for cooperation, but a full fledged conspiracy made obvious by ... that fact the viewer knows how wrong it is, and not in a "I just felt it way" but there it is -- MoI building, MAw workers, complete nonsense.

Oh, and I've managed to watch closely a few times. The dialogue isn't mouthed, and a '20s style board held up off-screen. They really aren't talking. We just know what they're saying, because that's a feature of the dream.

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 >>/6157/
> While I can agree that bronies aren't always accomplished singers, I truly appreciate some of the songs they sing in.

Though a lot of it makes me cringe I would certainly agree. There is even some vocal tracks that are masterpieces and even some where I do consider the skill of the singer a bit weak I think often the lyrics can still be good  I mean, one time, there was this song that while poorly song was the perfect lyrics to the CMC. I'll see if I can find it later. 

> 'glitchop' was, I think, invented by the bronies (prove me wrong?) using vocal show-clips _as_ the music. Those are always fun. 

I'll have to see if I can find info on that claim. That would bolster the case for us having our own music genre that I've seen claimed by some (even outside the fandom).

> Have a sleepy kitty instead.

Thanks! Have a sleepy Sweetie Belle.
 >>/6215/
> Do yours have sound? Color? I know it used to be claimed nobody dreams in color but I can tell you that's wrong - I remember the visuals, and color is a big part of the composition of the shot.

I've heard that too and I reminder somepoint in my youger years where I realized that wasn't the case for me either. Colors I easily can recall and will often remember noticing miner details in my more memorable dreams (like, noting Twi's coat being purrple).

> But my dreams are always 3rd-person

As I've said, I've sometimes had that, I think, but not to that extent. It honestly almost sounds like some dream version of imposter syndrome. 

> and there's no sound. The dialogue is done by understanding

> Oh, and I've managed to watch closely a few times. The dialogue isn't mouthed, and a '20s style board held up off-screen. They really aren't talking. We just know what they're saying, because that's a feature of the dream.

Now this sounds weird. Like I think I understand the sensation but not all the time. I usually can recall sounds. Songs, etc. 

>  Because the labels, the understanding, is the office is owned and operated by the ministry of Image, but every single person walking in and out is on Ministry of Awesome's payroll. What are they doing in a competing governmental entity? Not a one, like a report of some special project that calls for cooperation, but a full fledged conspiracy made obvious by ... that fact the viewer knows how wrong it is, and not in a "I just felt it way" but there it is -- MoI building, MAw workers, complete nonsense.

This reminds me of the waking world, but I'm not sure how I'd transmit through words and if there is any relation to what you say. A certain attention to the detail that almost feels manic? Eh, I'll try to get to that later. In anycase, my dreams have information I just know without it being stated often but I'm not sure I ever paid special attention to the fact other than noting that it happened. 

 PoLS in case I do not get back here today. 

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 >>/6214/
> I truly appreciate some of the songs they sing in. Some.
obviously you cannot set the bar all that high.

> bad-grammar drives me UP A WALL every time
*leaves silently the thread without making much noise...

> The video completely cuts away from Celestia just as she sings "the limelight so sweetly takes hold of its host"
one would imply that it refers to Luna falling into corruption 

> It means Celestia was to "busy" to see how fast her baby sister was going downhill.
but hey, at least she has guaranteed that Luna doesn´t fall short of calcium (even though that raises the question about her being so small in comparison to her sister)

> 'glitchop' was, I think, invented by the bronies (prove me wrong?) using vocal show-clips _as_ the music. Those are always fun.
https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/Glitch+Hop/

as for vocal clip shows, maybe electronic artists have taken samples from lots of movies in the past. Anyway, have a fun read with that (also it mentions Flying Lotus, an essential electronic artist to listen by the way....and I should have done that but I haven´t for some reason...). It comes from the late 90s but it seems that the mid 00s came to define the genre as a whole. It had a few years to bloom before bronies entered into the game.

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 >>/6215/
> Do yours have sound? Color? I know it used to be claimed nobody dreams in color but I can tell you that's wrong - I remember the visuals, and color is a big part of the composition of the shot.
definitely they are coloured. I might not have a great track record when it comes to remembering them after the experiencing those sequences but a specific one that consists of me being in a prison (not an actual  prison but more like an enclosed zone that you weren´t supposed to escape) along with a friend of mine falling in love with a waiter that worked in of the counted restaurants of that area.  I recall hearing the voice of my friend giving me advice and having a conversation with him in that restaurant but no way I would be able to transcribe his words. In the hearing aspect, I would boil it down to sound that simply doesn´t become all that memorable in order to write down the words properly.

I have to quote Bridgefag´s post here for explaining this lack of precise information that one could extract from them:
> my dreams have information I just know without it being stated often but I'm not sure I ever paid special attention to the fact other than noting that it happened.
well, there you have it. It simply happens and despite displaying information that could hide value within its context, it doesn´t turn into something so relevant that one could spend the time at figuring it out. 

Nightmares however,often get more lasting impact because people tend to focus more on hurting someone/suffering an undesirable period (for example, rape or phobias) in the real world. Thus those dreams reinforce that sense of negativity becomes corporeal and the brain transcripts that negativity to the consciousness...but for the most part, it´s memorable because of the feeling that the dream portrays rather than the content itself.

> But my dreams are always 3rd-person, and there's no sound. 
I don´t share at all that extreme of always dreaming in 3rd person. In fact, I tend to alternate it with the 1st person view, sometimes within the same dream transitioning from one view to another without much effort. So this one depends according to the circumstances...

> There are people walking in, out of an office building. Why is this sinister?
> the office is owned and operated by the ministry of Image, but every single person walking in and out is on Ministry of Awesome's payroll. What are they doing in a competing governmental entity? Not a one, like a report of some special project that calls for cooperation, but a full fledged conspiracy made obvious by ... 
> that fact the viewer knows how wrong it is, and not in a "I just felt it way" but there it is -- MoI building, MAw workers, complete nonsense.
perhaps we are so used to imagining dystopian worlds like 1984 or Brave New World that the sinister feeling doesn´t come off as surprising (also, being fed up of watching Hollywood movies about crime or mystery have made this really mundane). Let me tell you that the real world (conspiracies included) is much harder to justify and blows most fictional settings out of the water.  If I had to be worried with just that, I wouldn´t like to envision myself attempting to bother with all the messed up things that happens out there. I wouldn´t find any sleep/rest at all nor I could live by consuming my brain with all those problems taken into account all the time during my daily routine.

Before 2016, maybe this sinister feeling about finding that the situation one witnesses is really wrong and think about it for a while after waking up but nowadays, I would need to have more ingredients than that.

> The dialogue isn't mouthed, and a '20s style board held up off-screen. They really aren't talking. We just know what they're saying, because that's a feature of the dream.
that sounds like a good analogy for implying the dialogue without actually acknowledging what they say in a concise way.

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 >>/6223/
> waiter that worked in of the counted restaurants of that area. 
*waitress
she was nothing special though. The interactions with her were short but my friend could notice that my interest was there due to the way I had talked to her. Thus,my friend gave me advice for dealing with that waitress  for the future though the sequence ended with me going back home.

 >>/6215/
I forgot to clear up the sound aspect yet. There is sound in my dreams (especially when I am familiar with the people/characters involved) but as I said before, there isn't a specific line of dialogue that gets stuck and then,remember it fondly for writing them down. It's like you know the script but it occurs with neither pity nor glory

As for the conspiracy dream you've had, I wanted to add that you suffer more in the waking world when it comes to those sinister situations than any dream. It wouldn't stand a chance of being remarkable in my eyes, it would end up as another average dream for me.

The closest thing that a dream reaches those points of suffering has been when I was sick,lying on bed trying to find sleep and when you do in a bad health condition (a flu for example), I have experienced sequences of seeing the death my family or really desperate moments where pessimism prevailed over positive /neutral dreams,thus those bad dreams hold a more lasting impact than the rest.

That has happened a few times to me(especially when the disease is getting developed or reaches its peak in its symptoms) and illustrates/expresses more how defenseless my body feels during those moments. Nonetheless, in no way this is the dominant trend (not even in the disease period) but I am pointing this out either way.

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and I am finishing my activity right here.

Have a good night,folks.

 >>/6222/
> one would imply that it refers to Luna falling into corruption

No.
No it would not.
https://define.com/limelight

Celestia is the only one in that story with a limelight on her; the only one who can be 'taken' by said limelight.

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Also you guys are latching on too much to the detail of my example being sinister.

Suppose instead I created the example that, someone laid a postcard on the table.
That means that the recipient's cousin lost his job.
Despite the fact that the 'scene' shows the postcard, unread since we watched it carried from mailbox to table as it landed picture side up, the viewer (err, the dreamer, me) understands that it has been stated that the message written on the postcard explains the process by which the job was lost.
The drama, perhaps, of the dream would be the phone call when said cousin's car broke down while en route to the main character's house (I've had more than a few dreams I wasn't even featured in) and we (I) already know about the job loss but the person taking the phone call does not.

Dreams in which the point seems to be examining how two different points of view respond to the same datum are not uncommon, so while I don't remember ever dreaming that, I certainly could have.

 >>/6224/
> I wanted to add that you suffer more in the waking world

Eh. I got run over by a semi in a head-on collision on a state-highway and only got one dream out of that. Nothing unusual about the dream, either except for the sudden stop at the end.

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 >>/6227/
> Also you guys are latching on too much to the detail of my example being sinister.
Are you saying that we focused too much on the act while you meant not the act of knowing being sinister, but the actual subtext of the information itself?  Am I even making sense? 

> Eh. I got run over by a semi in a head-on collision on a state-highway and only got one dream out of that
You got run over IRL or in the dream?

 >>/6224/
> that you suffer more in the waking world when it comes to those sinister situations than any dream.
I once had a dream where the world was going to be permanently altered by a man with some type of rocket ship and there was nothing anyone could do to stop it. It, despite being a dream, felt a hopeless that I have never felt in the waking world. So I'm split on agreeing or not. As a dream is just a dream but nightmares can torture people in very personal ways.  

If I'll throw my two cents into the ring: does anybody remember any feelings/sensations? Especially ones that are alien to the waking world. I tell ya'll, I once  had a dream where I had telekinesis and the only way I can describe the feeling I felt in my hands and head when I moved stuff what telekinesis would probably feel like.

 >>/6229/
> You got run over IRL or in the dream?

IRL. Door got ripped off, turned inside out, tossed aside. I woke up with the car on top of me, a little confused about why the sprinkler system was allowed to drizzle raindrops onto my face.

Turns out it was drizzling raindrops still. Also that illumination wasn't a fluorescent bulb.

> the actual subtext of the information itself?
I think that's right, yes.

> does anybody remember any feelings/sensations?
It's not common, but yes.

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 >>/6230/
> IRL. Door got ripped off, turned inside out, tossed aside. I woke up with the car on top of me, a little confused about why the sprinkler system was allowed to drizzle raindrops onto my face.

...sounds awful. My closest experience to that would be the time I nearly died from a dental operation as a kid. So, perhaps, I can relate to the shock and confusion of being suddenly waking up and in a confused dream like state wondering about what exactly is going on but I think yours sounds more traumatic than just collapsing in your front yard from blood loss. To awaken in such a state after, that sounds far more horrifying and, not trying to pry, I'd imagine that there would be some difficulties that could last longer even if you made a mostly okay recovery. 

> Also that illumination wasn't a fluorescent bulb.

The sun? 

> I think that's right, yes.

Okay, good. 

> It's not common, but yes.

Not the most common from me either but I often do have stuff that does just stick out.

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 >>/6234/
> The sun? 
That's right. And half the 'clouds' were steam condensing from the hole in my head. It was cold-ish that day, my head was cracked open and I couldn't feel it yet.

> I'd imagine that there would be some difficulties that could last longer
The aforementioned hole snapped a nerve in half, so a quarter of my scalp was numb for months & months. There's still a section that operates at reduced sensitivity.

Other than that, no. I'm still me; I drive across that road like I always do, I have no more than the usual fear of death as I had before.
Part of that, of course, is my unshakeable faith as to what happens after I leave this place. When I saw that semi's tire (as tall as I because of how small/low my car was) skidding and bouncing towards me, I said "goodnight" not "goodbye"; I expected to wake up.
Just, not in the middle of a blackberry patch (great cushion for avoiding broken bones. Horrible pillow though). I have pictures somewhere of my scuffed up face, and that was mostly caused after my seat belt was cut and I flew into the briars.

I asked the surgeon how deep the cut to my forehead was. "Oh, quite deep. I could see the bone." and while that's my favorite part of the story, you can barely see the scar. Even when I point it out, it really is pretty small.

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 >>/6236/
> And half the 'clouds' were steam condensing from the hole in my head. It was cold-ish that day, my head was cracked open and I couldn't feel it yet.
Makes my skin crawl just to imagine that.

>  There's still a section that operates at reduced sensitivity.
> and while that's my favorite part of the story, you can barely see the scar. Even when I point it out, it really is pretty small.
> Other than that, no. I'm still me
Hey, sounds like you made it threw that pretty well. TBH, almost reminds me of a story of one of my Dad's friends who survived getting hit by a train and was thrown out. Hitting the grass was far better than being run over.

>  is my unshakeable faith as to what happens after I leave this place.
I have something like that as well, though perhaps in a much more traditional religious sense depending on what you mean on it.

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 >>/6226/
> Celestia is the only one in that story with a limelight on her; the only one who can be 'taken' by said limelight.
I see. So, they mistake the concept of Luna getting corrupted with a term whose definition is only applied for an individual who is in front of the public. Indeed, Celestia would be the only legitimate character to hold that public image at that time (Luna would fit later in the show for that term but not in that video)

 >>/6227/
> Also you guys are latching on too much to the detail of my example being sinister.
it was mostly because of this sentence:
> but a full fledged conspiracy made obvious by ... that fact the viewer knows how wrong it is
so perhaps the circumstances were unfortunate to be interpreted in the way that you intended. The postcard analogy raises less subtle messages and illustrates better what you were aiming at back then...

> The drama, perhaps, of the dream would be the phone call when said cousin's car broke down while en route to the main character's house and we (I) already know about the job loss but the person taking the phone call does not.
> Dreams in which the point seems to be examining how two different points of view respond to the same datum are not uncommon
this feels like a telepathic episode or a 

> I got run over by a semi in a head-on collision on a state-highway and only got one dream out of that.
 >>/6230/
> Door got ripped off, turned inside out, tossed aside. I woke up with the car on top of me, a little confused about why the sprinkler system was allowed to drizzle raindrops onto my face.
> Turns out it was drizzling raindrops still. Also that illumination wasn't a fluorescent bulb.
definitely not a desirable experience whose risks could have ended up in a more dramatic manner(fortunately you were born again after that moment). That sounds horrible.

 >>/6229/
> the world was going to be permanently altered by a man with some type of rocket ship and there was nothing anyone could do to stop it. It, despite being a dream, felt a hopeless that I have never felt in the waking world
a feeling of hopelessness boosted by doom. I could make an attempt to correlate it with your low standards towards other people in the past so all those disappointments were exposed simultaneously...but I am not sure if that correlation from IRL would work to justify that feeling from yours during that dream.

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 >>/6229/
> does anybody remember any feelings/sensations?Especially ones that are alien to the waking world. 
as for feelings, yes. As for the latter, I tend to associate almost everything to fiction/fantasy so unless it´s about credible stuff that could happen in this world, my mind doesn´t see them as alien because of that divisive line.

> I once had a dream where I had telekinesis and the only way I can describe the feeling I felt in my hands and head when I moved stuff what telekinesis would probably feel like.
a feeling of curiosity that could turn out to be useful...not that strange to my eyes. Everyone would like to know how it feels to handle that within your own hands.

 >>/6234/
> I nearly died from a dental operation as a kid.
was that because of a bleeding and lack of anesthesia? I mean, I hated going to the dentist before because of the pain (mostly because the dentist I had in my childhood didn´t do its job properly) but damn, my bad experience falls short in comparison to yours.

> I can relate to the shock and confusion of being suddenly waking up and in a confused dream like state wondering about what exactly is going on 
me too. I went through that after falling off from my bicycle. The front wheel got stuck in the ground all of a sudden due to a pedestrian crossing that wasn´t asphalted on both sides (which means that there was a gap between the road and the sidewalk), I took a somersault and I experienced that feeling of what was going on. Fortunately, I didn´t get hurt at all and lasted very few seconds and I have never managed to repeat that so far. I wonder how that managed to happen without getting any bruise during the process. 

However, that´s far from the trauma that  >>/6227/  >>/6230/ got but...

 >>/6236/
> so a quarter of my scalp was numb for months & months. There's still a section that operates at reduced sensitivity.
> Other than that, no. I'm still me; I drive across that road like I always do, I have no more than the usual fear of death as I had before.
> you can barely see the scar. Even when I point it out, it really is pretty small.
thankfully the consequences didn´t reach to an irreversible point in your health. That relieves a lot.

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 >>/6261/ 
> . I could make an attempt to correlate it with your low standards towards other people in the past so all those disappointments were exposed simultaneously...

Ya'know, though the feeling was based around a "everything is doomed the world is screwed" feeling, that sentiment could have easily fueled some of that. 

 >>/6262/
> was that because of a bleeding and lack of anesthesia?

No. They were pulling some teeth out in prep for my braces because they said that there wasn't enough room in my mouth. It was a bit on the heavier side because I had to be put out via IV. The operation went fine but I kept bleeding and bleeding when I got home. They were like, " oh expect some bleeding just use gauze" and my family didn't suspect anything wrong at first, but the bleeding just wouldn't stop. They never found out why it had happened as the Docters at the hospital thought the operation had been done just fine and I didn't have any conditions or disorders to cause it. 

> However, that´s far from the trauma that  >>/6227/  >>/6230/

Only on the way to the hospital I was unstable to a dangerous level and my family didn't even tell me that till awhile later. Certainly was scary but as I kid my terror was muted and it still didn't happen with that level of force all at once.

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Speaking of dreams. Anypony ever have ponies pop up in them? For me it happens sometimes but not often and they are rarely the focus. Like, me encounting Twilight Sparkle once chilling on a stairway (and later a shelf). 

 Goodnight for now /endpone/! 

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 >>/6272/
> though the feeling was based around a "everything is doomed the world is screwed" feeling, that sentiment could have easily fueled some of that.
it´s quite likely that it could have contributed to that dream of yours so perhaps, that familiar tone you had brought in previous posts, could indicate that it might not all have come from absolutely nowhere. 

> The operation went fine but I kept bleeding and bleeding when I got home.
> the Docters at the hospital thought the operation had been done just fine and I didn't have any conditions or disorders to cause it.
> Only on the way to the hospital I was unstable to a dangerous level and my family didn't even tell me that till awhile later. 
I thought that they had messed up during the operation and then, they would try to reconfigure your mouth. Still, it sounds weird and certainly confusing considering that there weren´t any signs that you had problems before that. 

> Certainly was scary but as I kid my terror was muted and it still didn't happen with that level of force all at once.
obviously parents try their best to soften and relax kids because otherwise, if you had known that you had been bleeding in a critical manner, you would have adopted a more traumatized behavior towards that unexpected problem, making things more difficult (despite developing itself at a more gradual pace)

It´s no wonder that they waited for the danger to be over before telling you the real concern. 

> Anypony ever have ponies pop up in them? 
imagining them before and after the sleep  is easy. Acknowledging with detail what I dream about them is way more complicated.

> Like, me encounting Twilight Sparkle once chilling on a stairway (and later a shelf).
classic Twilight, she must have read a good book that day.

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perhaps, this personal backstory doesn´t matter all that much but as one might have noticed, /endpone/ hasn´t displayed much activity in the last couple of weeks. That mostly because of my part, I have had to deal with my studies while keeping an eye on the countless twists that Derpibooru has shown with the iconoclastic menace that has turned on all the red alarms. 

This year has been somewhat complicated and I have mostly had another quarantine when it came to studying, so my mind hasn´t found itself in a stable ambient until just now. Even though Derpi´s drama keep going, at least I have managed to enter into a period in which I can rest and take a break with more free time, hence my posts displayed tonight over here (finally delivering more than a PoLS typed on mobile), and going a little bit back on track even though my concerns over Derpi´s future hold a greater preference than this place nowadays.

Anyway, I have been finding myself under a confusing situation where nothing feels all that correct in its right place because considering all these extraordinary events and constant mental exhaustion kept throughout these last months, going back to a normal life that any average citizen has, this was my first day of relief and the confusion kept going inside my mind like a hangover. I couldn´t imagine that I could have actual free time (100%) without having to bother about anything else.

So, why have I described all of this? Well, it turns out that I decided to change a bit the tunes and dive into more music and....CB anon would be surprised to read this, just that it´s not in the way that he had imagined in the first place when he posted what I have been listening to earlier this morning...

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It turns out that CB anon has been sharing quite a few link of Bandcamp and a few youtube links of pony music...and you know, I am quite reluctant when it comes to writing impressions that I find myself either insecure or undecided to even reply to those recommendations, hence I say quite trivial comments towards his stuff but never in a way in which I actually feel it.

Fortunately, despite not seemingly caring all that much, I silently draw certain things that get stuck in my head until one day, I remember them more fondly in hindsight. 

In short, he accidentally said a recommendation that I have been listening to right after finishing my exams period yesterday...and I say accidentally because his recommendation wasn´t actually an intended recommendation to share here but...:

 >>/6131/
> Absolutely. There was like, one album I've encountered, that felt like it was trying to be a cohesive whole. No idea the cover for it; I think it was by Queensryche but don't quote me on that.
> I recall liking nearly everything from Smashing Pumpkin's "Mellon Collie & the Infinite Sadness"
and of course, when one has to deal with the weird times such as the ones we are living in, one goes back to something stable. That´s right, despite your hate towards the industry in general, I thought about giving an actual try to the Smashing Pumpkins discography and go through the entire experience of Mellon Collie and The Infinite Sadness. Two hours as a whole without skipping anything (the longest I have managed to listen in an album format).

I have felt....plenty of things while diving into that record for the first time today, mostly finding the concept of angst and the unstable mind that would come from a teenager. Those times feel easier  and the record has been the first choice to listen, marking the end of difficult times and set up a free will mode for the next few weeks. Not only that, but I have also given Adore a try as well and I regret nothing. Definitely, the album does hold a cohesive (certainly timeless) narrative for the huge length given for that record which I appreciate that effort more than the impression that I am displaying with this post. I have been thinking about you and this post from yours while considering the album to pick and well, it was quite gratifying to pick this album from 1995 in the end...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=A6M0yLxLCNA

Maybe I won´t appreciate everything that you share over here, but I feel like writing posts of this kind, it´s like the biggest esteem that I can show when I feel that it actually deserves said gesture. I won´t always show this every time but at least, it does display a actual tone of sincerity while typing this whole answer towards your reply.

So yeah, maybe this didn´t turn out to be what you had expected back then...

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 >>/6334/
> I have felt....plenty of things while diving into that record
> marking the end of difficult times and set up a free will mode

This does seem an odd response, from the outside. But I know sometimes art just hits you at the right time, and it lets you take a step back and see the whole picture in a different way.

I've just read something in a youtube description that confirms what I'd guessed long ago. Le Soldat Pony is doing fine, but not pursuing "pony" (or, I guess, music). But And The Rainfall posted this description while putting up one last goodbye from Solly. Track 12 from "the rest of our lives" (dot bandcamp) tries to say hello again, and goodbye as we all go our ways.

I have always loved Solly's music for the heart you hear through it. I'm sorry he felt the need to take down the last of his own archives (though everyone else still has them) but am glad to hear he's not upset about spending a decade with the rest of us.

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 >>/6338/
also its hay season. See, I have actual horses, and in order to be good stewards of the horsefeed budget, you have to buy the hay bales right after they've been made and are still sitting in the field.

Bucking hay bales is hot, dry, sweaty work, and nigh unbearable for a meager office worker like myself.
There are times I don't like the summer, truth be told.

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PoLS just to show signs of life over here and the fact that I have been reading your comments.

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 >>/6273/
Once, for sure. Don't remember when but it was John Joseco's style of humanized Luna, who guarded a particular bridge that was, I think, in the middle of Canterlot. I forget why we were fighting but while I couldn't "fly" I could hover similar to how we saw Glimglam troll around Cloudsdale. So I hovered in the middle of the chasm and prepared to rush the bridge when she walked out.

Yes we were at war, no I never actually saw her. But that's what the labels said, as I've described before.

Despite the fact I would have no reason to fight against her in the waking world, and also the fact that [how do spoilers work here?]she isn't real[/oh well] my first thought upon slightly waking was *THAT WAS PRINCESS LUNA! I NEARLY MET THE PRINCESS OF THE NIGHT>>/pone/6334/@5562
To be fair, I've just last night queued up the whole album on Youtube. Only halfway through it, if that but there are some gems I'd forgotten about.
I always loved the anti-logic name of "here is no why" but I can't remember a single note of the song, even having just heard it. So I think I was just in love with the idea inspired by the name, not the song proper.
Still, I'm glad it's inspired you; I'm relistening for similar reasons.

 >>/6341/
> similar reasons.
no, that's not true.

I'm listing to respark nostalgia. I'm _drinking_ because the plandemic is depressing me and making me wish I lived in a simpler era while I await in hope and fear, that America actually _will_ become great again; that we'll stop using our constitution for toilet paper and use it to judge the standing laws of this land, again.
Also, I'm buying rice, because the best time to panic-buy, is when there's no panic.

 >>/6341/
lastly I sorta wanted to spoiler the 3rd, 4th, & 5th images because they're ... pretty dark.

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 >>/6341/
> who guarded a particular bridge 
bridge? What a fitting dream.

> Despite the fact I would have no reason to fight against her in the waking world, and also the fact that [how do spoilers work here?]she isn't real[/oh well] my first thought upon slightly waking was *THAT WAS PRINCESS LUNA! I NEARLY MET THE PRINCESS OF THE NIGHT Still, I'm glad it's inspired you; I'm relistening for similar reasons.
Perhaps I'll give a listen then.

> wish I lived in a simpler era while I await in hope and fear, that America actually _will_ become great again; that we'll stop using our constitution for toilet paper and use it to judge the standing laws of this land, again.
Oof. Know this feel. The problem is that, it feels like the structure is breaking down. Not saying it is but it certain makes one feel insecure. 

> Also, I'm buying rice, because the best time to panic-buy, is when there's no panic.
Do you have access to a place where you can garden? Even if you can't grow a lot growing some can help.

 >>/6344/
> Even if you can't grow a lot growing some can help

seven plus acres, bro.
Not all of it is dedicated to horsegrazing.

Most of it, but not all.
Wifeanon has successufully sprouted ... five shoots of corn. Four of which are nearly waist high.
Four!

 >>/6343/
Won't let me spoil just one with the mod tools I have but I did spoil them all. If you want me to remove it just say the word.

 >>/6345/
> Most of it, but not all.
Now that's something that ya can work with!

> Wifeanon has successufully sprouted ... five shoots of corn. Four of which are nearly waist high.
Awesome. Two things I highly recomend would be Potatoes and Tomateos.

 >>/6346/
Nah its cool bro. Filenames give away which are ... potentially distasteful

 >>/6347/
previous owners had planted potatoes. I swear we got more than ten pounds out of the deal, and we didn't even find them all.
Yes, those are growing nicely too.

 >>/6348/
> Yes, those are growing nicely too.
Sweet. If I am to make any more specific recommendations I'd probably say two plants:
Yellow Pear Tomatoes. 
https://bonnieplants.com/product/yellow-pear-heirloom-cherry-tomato/
These plants have been some of the most dependable my family ever has grown. Even with them doing bad planting practices (like reusing the same pot, mixing the same soil) these plants still always seemed to produce well. 

The Ground Cherry. 
https://www.seedsavers.org/grow-ground-cherry
A plant I'm experimenting with. Can't give a testimonial other than I find them promising for rougher environments and I like their weed like nature and their supposedly long storage time.

Also, Roma tomatoes. 
https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/edible/vegetables/tomato/tips-for-growing-roma-tomatoes.htm
For canning and such (though I have no experience in that a relative does).

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 >>/6348/
> Filenames give away which are ... potentially distasteful
That's pretty dark. Old grimdark ask blog I take it? 

The second of the darker ones makes me think of the second half of this song. 
https://youtube.com/watch?v=eDhx12R3BxQ
Her walking to the edge of a cliff...

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 >>/6350/
> Old grimdark ask blog
older than that, I think. Comics agreed upon by text in 4ch, probably when pony was still just in /b/

//she learns to fly, though.

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 >>/6351/
Whew. Guess I was a bit pent up. Also completely worn out over the hay thing. Not the first time I let my enthusiasm for all things pony overtake common sense.

"we are the news" notables aggregator points out that about a year ago, someone created a twitter account for JFK jr, and said that on 7/22/20, the crumbs would be replaced with the whole cake.

So if everything starts exploding, say an hour or two from now ... you'll know some of why. For myself, I'm going to spend tonight unboxing the keyboard components I hastily shoving into containers when we moved to this place.
Maybe I'll see you tomorrow?

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 >>/6351/
Wow that is old. Glad she learns to fly though.

 >>/6352/
> Not the first time I let my enthusiasm for all things pony overtake common sense.
Me niether if the drama on Derpi is any indication. 

>  For myself, I'm going to spend tonight unboxing the keyboard components I hastily shoving into containers when we moved to this place.
Sounds like my father. Whole lot of computer parts. 

> Maybe I'll see you tomorrow?
Day after. Just got back from going out to see Neowise. I'll post about it in /night/ tommorow. Right now just exhausted from traveling around (though its nice to get out from pandemic).

>  So if everything starts exploding, say an hour or two from now ... you'll know some of why. 
I didn't here anything but then again this is an age were the government started to half admit on UFOs and nobody cared.

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 >>/6352/
Are those caps yours?

 >>/6355/
Yeah. I posted in a dead thread, said 'nopony' in passing, and everyone came out of the woodwork to tell me to off myself.

The youtube link, in case you were wondering, was a cut, repeated several times, to awolnation's sail where Dashie asks herself 'maybe I should kill myself?'
bizarrely, I seem not to have that saved where I can find it. I have it saved, though. One of the first fanworks, and still pretty okay since I like the song anyway.

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 >>/6356/
 >>/6355/
I have the video I mock-quoted though -- an FoE piece that was just disappearing from popularity about the time I posted my ill-received nopony usage.

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 >>/6357/
This actual is alright, CB. 

Have a carrot scootaloo I made.

 >>/6367/
> carrots
> since time imortal

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 >>/6356/
> Yeah. I posted in a dead thread, said 'nopony' in passing, and everyone came out of the woodwork to tell me to off myself.
 I can probably outcringe you a bit  I have to police myself from saying ponified words to this day... IRL  I still words like nopony and everypony in coversations online fairly often. Not forced I just got used to saying it. 

> bizarrely, I seem not to have that saved where I can find it.
Do you have a lot of early stuff saved? That'd be cool, honestly.

>  have it saved, though. One of the first fanworks, and still pretty okay since I like the song anyway.
This is, again, pretty copatent. I don't like all the lyrics but I can't call it cringe for sure (and dark for sure). The chorus sounds outright professional 9/10. Weird... second time I am praising Pony Rap that you have shown me.

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 >>/6367/
Did Carrotfag just make OC and give it to CB over this song?

I take it you made this in Inkscape? 

 >>/6368/
???

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 >>/6356/
Found it. Jump to 1:41. Yeah, that section.

 >>/6371/
> ???
I just today saw that spelling, when I think they were trying to say immoral. Or very possibly immemorial? It was a little unclear, and was a screen cap of a *chan discussing the breakdown of DeripB, or at least that kind of non-thinking was the topic.

 >>/6370/
I don't think so but I should put up seven-band-tribute just because.

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 >>/6373/
Haven't heard this in awhile. Yes I am familer with this. Wow. Way to bring back memories.

 >>/6373/
> I just today saw that spelling,
>  It was a little unclear, and was a screen cap of a *chan discussing the breakdown of DeripB, or at least that kind of non-thinking was the topic.
Are you saying you say this message somewhere else. I was wondering if it was Carrotfag or not.

 >>/6373/
> I don't think so but I should put up seven-band-tribute just because.
Perhaps you're right.  Perhaps you're not 

Hey. I don't think you got to my question earilier on thisbut I just wanted to ask you since you're now a regular of this little board: do you have any feedback or ideas? Anything that you'd think be cool for us to * try * to do?

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 >>/6376/
> do you have any feedback or ideas?

Nah everything seems fine. "comfy" but fine. If I ever get back to writing I may bring up the critique thread again; we'll see.

have some older .webm PMVs

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 >>/6377/
Nice. First not a fan of the song but I still like to see PMVs and the various affects they try to pull off, even if subtle.

Here, possibly, the first time I saw anything from FiM at all (though it could also be the second). Though I had been peaking into fics before this point. Nothing remarkable other than it being my own little slice of an early artifact of the fandom.

 >>/6378/
Now... the only problem with that though is that I thought I had been visiting fansites and lurking a bit before season 2 premiered. 

 >>/6377/
> "comfy" but fine
I presume you mean:
Not "comfy" but fine

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 >>/6379/
> I presume you mean:
> Not "comfy" but fine

Generally on 8k "comfy" as a descriptor of a board, came to mean "slow"
Slow enough all the posters could keep up with the incoming information.
Nevermind that it's slow enough that sometimes folks get bored and re-learn that reddit banned all discussions of things as well as stuff. This board is "comfy"

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 >>/6380/
> Generally on 8k "comfy" as a descriptor of a board, came to mean "slow"
Ah, I see. Yeah, that does fit /endpone/, especially right now. 

> Nevermind that it's slow enough that sometimes folks get bored and re-learn that reddit banned all discussions of things as well as stuff. 
Pony reddit or reddit in general * yes *

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 >>/6381/
Still comfy I see.

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 >>/6417/
It is

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Feeling sick; might listen to Iron Man or War Pigs later, IDK. 

(in reality it was Aqualung first)

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 >>/6616/
> Feeling sick
oh...dammit, how is it going? What is it? how are you dealing with it? 
You know, in this era, everyone suspects that everything is Covid..and for this anniversary, it seems that we couldn´t get any worse....

If that makes you feel any better, while not sick, I have been going through a tense period during the last days of September because of constant uncertainty. As soon as October arrived, all those problems vanished all of a sudden (what a relief). Still, I don´t recommend going through that. 

> might listen to Iron Man or War Pigs later
Black Sabbath from the Paranoid album... the safest choices are sometimes the best ones.  Nice.

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 >>/6616/
> Feeling sick
Drat. Praying for your well being.

 >>/6619/
> You know, in this era, everyone suspects that everything is Covid
If it is the dreaded Covid hopefully it stays mild. Even if not requiring medical attention I have heard for some it can be very unplesant.

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 >>/6621/
> If it is the dreaded Covid hopefully it stays mild.
it can stay mild. However, it ranges from causing heart attack or breathing problems to just a simple fatigue or headache for a couple of days. If you don´t get all bad after the first 5 or 6 days, most likely you don´t need to visit a hospital. 

I say this because of contacts who have gone through and  from possibly, personal experience

> Even if not requiring medical attention I have heard for some it can be very unplesant.
it´s basically a Russian roulette really. It depends on the age, blood type, amount of exposure to the virus, what strain you have caught (if it´s a weak or a strong one)... the main problem that one should worry about is if there is room left for you in the hospital in case that it gets worse around the time that you are going through the symptomatic period. Otherwise, one cannot adapt that apocalyptic mindset 24/7. The psychological effects could trun out to be more devastating in the long run because of constant bombing about this issue. 

maybe one can go through the average flu and mistake it with covid during this autumn/winter period and more than one person out there could get truly paranoid about said confusion and act way more irrationally than one would do towards any other sickness.

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you guys, I'm fine.
You remember that discussion about porphyria? Rare liver disease? This was an attack from that -- all my joints were screaming in agony and had rusted shut.

 Sixteen hours of sleep and two doses of excedrin has fixed everything. Mostly.

So, CB-anon proving I still have the same heartbeat I had before, a nice keyboard, and some images nearby. Also a Vive VR headset but the video card is inadequate so no visiting Equestria any time soon via that route.

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 >>/6623/
> This was an attack from that -- all my joints were screaming in agony and had rusted shut.
That still sucks. The most positive things I could say is that 1): You feel better and 2): better the Devil you do know over the one you don't (maybe).

> Also a Vive VR headset but the video card is inadequate so no visiting Equestria any time soon via that route.
I didn't even know their was a VR pony project. How inadequate is the video card?

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 >>/6623/
> This was an attack from that -- all my joints were screaming in agony and had rusted shut.>Sixteen hours of sleep and two doses of excedrin has fixed everything. Mostly.
even if it´s a relief hearing that you have managed to overcome it, I don´t know if one should either get sad or just simply laugh (in a dark sense) about the fact that you have been going through another attack from the disease that has set you a time limit in your life expectancy.

While it´s certainly funny to think about that you´ve got everything under control, except for what Bridgefag has said (it´s the Devil that you know), I still admire your perspective and how you are capable to handle it with a positive take your disease while getting a reminder that one of those episodes will kill you in the future. It blows my mind. 

> CB-anon proving I still have the same heartbeat I had before, a nice keyboard, and some images nearby.
you´ve got to have quite a lot of courage to acknowledge your problems and still shitpost as usual as if nothing happens to you. I am taking this with a slice of comedy but at the same time, I can´t help but shiver while thinking about your situation.

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 >>/6623/
> porphyria
Shit. That sucks.

 >>/6630/
> I am taking this with a slice of comedy but at the same time, I can´t help but shiver while thinking about your situation.
Gentic disorders, even minor ones, can suck pretty bad, yet having it for years and possibly knowning about it does set you up with a different mentality than a onlooker who has no close experience with a person like that. I've seen people live with far worse with a smile. c

Have an emergency drop of princess to brighten the mood.
 Lurker-someetimes-poster-anon signing off 

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> Gentic disorders, even minor ones, can suck pretty bad, yet having it for years and possibly knowning about it does set you up with a different mentality than a onlooker who has no close experience with a person like that. I've seen people live with far worse with a smile. 

Obviously, you get to adapt yourself with the circumstances one finds himself in, just that one cannot help at thinking that life could be even more complicated because of that handicap, yet you see them with a smile and many of them appreciate and fight more for their lives than people who don't have any disease of this kind. I suppose that not many appreciate anything until they don't have it anymore.


One of the reasons why I don't want to go back to any historical period (except for the 80s-2000s) is because of this, you were sold in this department and if you lived in certain civilizations (spartans), they would kill you for having those diseases or the newborn was badly formed. 

It's just that it haunts me how one can go through it and never before you could access to so much yet we still cannot offer all the mediums for preventing them. Sure, some of them have been nullified and even reversed (see the VIH) but there is still a long way to go.


> Lurker-someetimes-poster-anon signing off 
I think that I've got an idea who you might be but I am not placing my bets yet...

Still, posting the princesses was nice.

 >>/6640/
> Have an emergency drop of princess to brighten the mood.
Thanks for the drop!

 >>/6643/
> One of the reasons why I don't want to go back to any historical period (except for the 80s-2000s) is because of this, you were sold in this department and if you lived in certain civilizations (spartans), they would kill you for having those diseases or the newborn was badly formed. 
An interesting point that one often forgets in such escapism.

> I think that I've got an idea who you might be but I am not placing my bets yet...
???