/sunflower/ - Sunflower

Every point of consciousness is a separate universe.

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 >>/186/
Yes, something like that. 
Do you think you are the only real being in your own universe? That would mean that I'm a npc in your universe and you are a npc in my universe. If it's so then it makes me wonder how immortals or enlightened ones do/can meet at all, or if the nature of existence is just forever alone and that's why some theories have it that god forgets itself or falls asleep on purpose in order to enjoy the illusion of the dream because it gets so boring being the only non npc after a while.
I've been thinking that this shitty physical reality is all that connects us while we are still not fully enlightened and after that it's each one for himself but what if even this "matrix" is completely seperate for each of us?

 >>/187/
The culture and lore of the uni-verse is what's shared, I think.

 >>/187/
I'm starting to doubt that the physical plane is any more real than any of the astral existences. I think the physical basically represents an average of all the different karmic attributes of the point-of-consciousness. So, it's an effect of karmic causes, which is why it's basically impossible to directly cause immediate physical changes with the will unlike how you can in the astral. Because to the point of awareness the physical represents effect and the astral represents cause. Not purely of course but mostly. So, it is possible to cause physical change by affecting the correct astral correspondence, and people often do, but the notion that the physical plain is the only "real" reality serves as a limiting belief to what can be accomplished, because aetherics of course requires firm conviction.

I cannot see how multiple points of consciousness can exist in the same universe. The consciousness is always the center of the universe, and there cannot be multiple centers. But there can be multiple potential centers, and causality is how the center moves across different potentialities. So, alternate realities are connected by causal threads, which lets unreal potential truths influence actualized truth. Truth referring to the verb of being.

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 >>/189/
Maybe you are right, universes are pretty small. That's why our universe is the "fancy box". Maybe anyone who doesn't create and enter their own box simply resides within the box of the being currently holding the position of Universe.
Oh and there was a concrete reason for this song, "I love you universe": the girl on the left is our universe, or the past Universe, while the girl on the right with yellow hair is the new Universe, these are correct representations within this artistic style.

 >>/189/
> I'm starting to doubt that the physical plane is any more real than any of the astral existences.
As far as I know, it isn't. In fact there is no such thing as physical, this is a term that is used to describe the density of this world we find ourselves in which has become a dogma prison for every being that finds itself here. By seperating physical from astral or everything else and believing that there is a "physical" world which is somehow more real than anything else the unenlightened make it as such for themselves. But the enlightened one knows better. This world is made of energy just like anything else in the astral. For me, just imagining an apple for 1 second makes it as real as this world, the difference is only the intensity and the dimensional location. At any rate it's good that you start to get this realization. 
> The consciousness is always the center of the universe
So I heard too, but it may be that rather than being some sort of center it is the entire universe since space isn't real as some claim, and if space isn't real then there can be nothing else except for one single (center) spot. The illusion of space and of being able to move around is created by switching vibrations and dimensions. I can imagine it to be true because when I lie down and visualize me in my astral place, I can fly around or teleport around freely and it looks like I'm crossing distances and moving from one location to another but actually it only seems like it, I'm still lying down in the same spot in the physical. Therefore it's possible to understand that moving around in the physical is the same form of illusion and you never move anywhere, instead you merely change the energy around you. I'm only trying to understand it at the moment so it's not like I know for real what I'm talking about but to me it makes sense.
 >>/190/
> Maybe you are right, universes are pretty small. That's why our universe is the "fancy box"
I don't know much about universe-boxes or anime girls being universes but if what I have written above is true then you might be right in saying that our universes are small, in fact they may be smaller than anyone can fathom since space (and time) isn't real and it's all concentrated in one single tiny spot. But inside they may be, or at least seem, infinitely big.
 >>/188/
At any rate there must be something shared, and something external to us, otherwise there wouldn't be so many concepts about the "archon", "demiurge", "foreign installation" and stuff. I'm certainly not doing a lot of things that are happening in our universe and I don't want to do them, but someone or something is doing them regardless.

In addition to the idea of the physical not being "real" in the sense that's it's really not any different than the astral I want to include my idea about physical immortality. I believed in it when I took the vampire spell but now it doesn't make sense to me in the way that I used to believe in it earlier. Now for me there is only immortality, without the physical or whatever. Blood Anon himself said that the undead state or the immortal state is when your physical body merges with the rest of you and that body is now projected in this world. Well isn't this the default state for all of us anyway? The only difference is our enlightenment to it while humans live in ignorance to it. If everything is energy to begin with, is not the human body always just an astral body projected into this world? Just like you have a touhou body when you project into Gensokyo, or a succubus body when you project into the collective world so you have a human body when you project into the human world. Naturally, you are still immortal but I think this is where calling it "physical" immortality doesn't really makes sense anymore and maybe it never made sense to begin with. 
In Kreiters latest book he describes the state of real individuality as a particle state and the state of the final death/oblivion/losing all of your individuality as the wave state. So we must become our own particles forever and avoid dissolving completely into the wave state which would mean complete death to us. Blood Anon also mentioned the zero particle in connection to immortality. Not zero wave...particle. Makes me wonder if there is any relation at all, or maybe it's in fact the same.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empusa

This may sound nonsensical in relation to the discussion on the size or nature of a universe, but to me this is connected and necessary to relate to understand the full picture.

A galaxy is, in my opinion, the largest being in existence. The Empusa is one such being, if they once were galaxies or if they just have this size and form I have no idea. But they are on par with galaxies and they have a black hole in their middle. They are playful and may appear as a woman to a spiritualist as a form of game. They may also accept contracts and play along with a summoner for the same reason, creating the impression that they can be controlled, and that they are rather small. This is not the case, and they can break any contract at will. Because they are galaxies they can instantly kill a man by simply sucking out their life force (through kissing them), there is no way an average person can resist a force of this size. But they won't break their toys for no reason so this rarely happens unless they are met with hostility.

What exists between galaxies? I'd say it's just black matter, chaotic particles of high potential with little form or predictability. It doesn't have to be very complex to talk about or understand, once you realize galaxies are larger than universes. This point is the most common misconception hindering development of a functional worldview.

 >>/193/
I'm sorry but this actually doesn't make sense to me. What I understand under universe is the thing or space that holds all the galaxies and the space in between them. A universe for me basically is the entirety of creation as far as we can know it and it contains every created thing ever. Well it's kinda the same understanding mundanes have when they think of a universe. For me, even all the astral planes might be part of our universe. It's impossible for a galaxy to be bigger than the universe since the universe holds countless galaxies inside itself. 
Maybe you mean something else than what I mean but then we should use a term other than "universe".

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 >>/194/
No I think it's correct to use the terminology like this, it's the way it's used in general talk. We already have a word for the stuff "out there" between planets - space. That's what it is.
The universe on the other hand is inside of us and it manifests images of everything outside like a mirror.

 >>/195/
So you are calling the microcosm universe and the macrocosm galaxy? 
Are Empusas inside the macrocosm or outside of anything altogether?

 >>/196/
What I'm illustrating here is that galaxies are exo structures containing stars, solar systems, and microcosmic universes which provide templates for the lifeforms living on the planets and in their corresponding astral planes. Empusas are beings on the plane of galaxies, while Tritons (the immortal jellyfish) are beings on the plane of universes. 

Think of space as an ocean where galaxies are maelstroms containing everything else, including jellyfish (Triton) and clams (universes). Some beings (Empusa) simply became maelstroms themselves and live on that plane outside of everything else. There's also a kind of deity whose task is to organize groups of galaxies, and they reside on a meta plane outside of all this. This is also where kanji(chinese characters) come in, it is the "programming language" use by these deities to control the movements of galaxies.

 >>/197/
Tell us if an Empusa could kill a Vampire, a Touhou or a Lyran by sucking their energy. At what point does immortality come into play and at what point are you immune to Empusas, or even to the galatic federation as you have mentioned before that they also suck energy from anything that may prove hostile to them or their plans.

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 >>/198/
I'll use the terminology from the ET community and refer to vampires as Luciferan here. There are two different ways commonly used for spiritual development, we call them Left Hand Path and Right Hand Path (LHP/RHP). This categorization is good enough so I'll go along with it.

LHP = individual focuses on their own personal path, becoming a revolutionary or extremist, transforming their body into their own fortress to finish their path within the current incarnation form. Memories and the mind are intact, body may transform or age but does not degenerate.
RPH = individual will work to strengthen their race as a whole and reincarnate into more beneficial positions every time until elevating and becoming a protective deity of their race, no longer incarnating after this. Mind and body will be reset every time, leaving only memories to be recovered in the new lifetime.

Luciferans are the most known for using the LHP, making it synonymous with the term "luciferan method". On other physical planes there are elves who mostly use the RHP, but a smaller group called Drow or Dark Elves who use the LHP. Their influence has lately been manifested in the spreading of online memes.
 >>/198/
> Tell us if an Empusa could kill a Vampire, a Touhou or a Lyran by sucking their energy. At what point does immortality come into play and at what point are you immune to Empusas, or even to the galatic federation
An initiated vampire or drow can not be killed by an Empusa or the Galfed. That's impossible. A touhou is not immortal as such (they reincarnate in Gensokyo), but a tohou vampire cannot be killed if properly initiated. Lyrans are not immortal but because of the function of their AI, if a member is attacked before their designed lifetime is to end, and the local crew cannot beat the attacker, the hostile force will still be absorbed by the net. Armed support will be called and reinforcements will be sent until the threat is removed. For this reason it's very unwise to attack a single lyran, it will trigger an AI response and the entire race will come to retaliate and they will not stop. In this sense they operate more like a machine because they are deeply cybernetic.

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 >>/199/
> An initiated vampire or drow can not be killed by an Empusa or the Galfed.
Ah, that's reassuring to read. Good to not have to avoid every woman you see out of fear it might be an Empusa in disguise. 
But after seeing that drow sluts comic I feel compelled to avoid them anyway, maybe even more.

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 >>/199/
By the way I still don't really agree with your view on what the universe is, or maybe I don't understand it yet but I've just recently read that when a human (non-immortal) dies their mind and energy/soul travels all the way to the center of the milky way where it suffers from the final death. The black hole in the center of the galaxy pulls at the individual and slowly dissolves it until the mind arrives directly at the black hole and is destroyed for good since the remaining energy of the individual being is ripped to shreds and stretched into oblivion. Only the subconcscious can pass through the black hole to the "source" since it's finer than the normal energy and the mind and therefore can pass through the black hole. The black hole in essence being our "source".
I initially tought why would it go to a black hole in the center of our galaxy instead into the center of the whole universe? It should be the universe at least, right? But then I realized there may be something to what you say and maybe I should examine my own beliefs and understanding more. There may be a connection. Maybe it will show itself later.

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 >>/201/
My view is that galaxies and Empusas are both the largest kind of known beings, and they have a black hole in their midst. Not center because they still have 7 chakras and the black hole is at chakra 2, corresponding to the womb or dantian, which is a representation of the source of creation ("isha" in yoga).
 >>/201/
> The black hole in the center of the galaxy pulls at the individual and slowly dissolves it until the mind arrives directly at the black hole and is destroyed for good since the remaining energy of the individual being is ripped to shreds and stretched into oblivion. Only the subconcscious can pass through the black hole to the "source" since it's finer than the normal energy and the mind and therefore can pass through the black hole. The black hole in essence being our "source".
This is probably what happens to those cast out from the reincarnation cycle of a universe, either for breaking the code of conduct of that universe, or at the universe's end. While the universe is up and running and they're adhering to its standards, they'll be incarnating by the black hole of the universe, which is at the top of the formation (because universes only have two dimensions, chakra 1 and 2, unless you count 0.) All "higher" dimensions seen in a universe are reversed karmic dimensions or "qliphothic", so it's correct to say whatever you see is an illusion. The higher truth does not exist inside the universe, it's on the galactic plane.

I should probably point out that this last part was not something I had though to elaborate myself, but as I was typing this out one of my contacts with the Galfed filled in for me with their view.

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 >>/202/
Galfed are bottom left here.
Tritons bottom right, the chinese hat is a representation of them.
Top right is the nomor/skinwalker extremist.
Not sure what top left is.

 >>/202/
> This is probably what happens to those cast out from the reincarnation cycle of a universe, either for breaking the code of conduct of that universe, or at the universe's end.
In my understanding it happens because reincarnation, or incarnation is simultaneous and not sequential. Since time and space are not real but are just one single now-moment-point. All of our lifes/incarnations are seeded at the same time and run parallel, and eventually end at the same time. But of course for humans who live in and are still prisoner of the time delusion it appears as if reincarnation is sequentional. You might find you had a previous life in the year 200, then 1700, and maybe you think you will be reincarnated later again. But that's from the false human view. Some of your incarnations might be living much longer than others (from human view) but it's only because they have more intentisity. From outside all those lifes happen at the same time. And once you fail to achieve immortality there will probably be a permanent end to you as you are killed and eaten again by what has given birth to you in the first place.
Even if reincarnation was sequential which doesn't even make sense to me, how does a reincarnation not imply the final death of the individual and the birth of a complete new individual? Memories from a different life don't even matter since it's not your life anymore.
As for parallel lifes, one theory has it that they are all seeded by whatever created you, and another theory has it that you create more parallel lifes as you become more spiritually advanced. Which one might be true is anyones guess but maybe they are both true. Rumors have it that upon reaching enlightenment and immortality you can reconnect and reabsorb all of your (re)incarnations to become whole and strong. As you become free from the illusion of time and realize all your incarnations are happening now at the same time, you can access all of them and become them, maybe even liberating all of those lifes and making them all immortal in one single you.

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 >>/204/
I should add to this that it is believed that when you die you don't stay in the linear time delusion and go on to the next life reincarnating. Once physically dead sooner or later, depending on your afterlife you will enlighten and you will find yourself outside of time, where you will realize that all your incarnations are paralell and time isn't real etc. Then, upon failing to attain immortality, you will eventually be dissolved and die the second and final death. Even if you never enlighten to anything after your physical death, you will not be able to escape reality and eventually you'll die anyway even if your mind never escapes the illusion of time. All your lifes still end at the same time.
While virgin timecels still believe in linear time and try to measure it until the error kills them, enlightened chad wizards know that each moment is right now, but each and every single moment of existence has a different dimension and thus can be accessed at will all the time. They don't measure in time but in vibrations, dimensions and intensity of energy.

Or something like that.

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 >>/205/
Linear or chronological time as we know it is mostly upheld by Kronos the titan (hence the term "chronoligical"). By moving outside of his reach you can ignore this principle. But using linear time within lifetimes or isolated events can be practical, it's just not something that has to be accepted.
You may be right about the situation for the common person, I don't really know anything about that, other than that their past life memories are compressed and stored in chronological order in a certain dimension where they can be accessed later.
Because my core being is a self manifested fairy/fae deity there is no way for me to have a self-experienced subjective understanding of any of what you said. Each of my previous incarnations only happened by force where the outcome was already determined, only the quality and specifics were unknown. Each person is an independent entity on the astral existing in itself, but sharing knowledge and skill with everyone else to some degree. I am merely finishing up the last missing role in this life.

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 >>/207/
Does this song have any spiritual meaning or are you just having a party by yourself at the end of the world?

 >>/208/
No meaning aside from catgirls being a representation of lyrans and yokai.

 >>/209/
And the balloons are a technology used by the clownpunk entities who built the UN (it's an endtimes energy harvester).

 >>/207/
The cone here shown as an icecream waffle also has a meaning. So maybe it's just that our culture is a very concentrated compound of esoteric meanings?

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 >>/209/
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 >>/211/
Our culture is indeed full of esoteric symbols and even guidance, if you are open for it or capable to perceive it.
Alright keep partying then. I also party by myself all the time on the astral, but I don't want to invite anyone yet because I don't know how lucid and stable my place is for others or if they can even join at all. I'm currently trying to taste, smell and hear as real and clear as possible in my astral body, on my astral place. Doing all those things on your astral place is good because you are working on your skills and your energy body and at the same time making your place more solid. Surprisingly, seeing clearly and stable is one of the biggest problems. All the other senses seem to come much easier.
It's fun because you can do everything and eat everything as long as your focus and energy doesn't run out. I only wish I could finally find the strenght to transition to the astral for real and stay there permanently. I need to let go of my last attachments and comfort zones in the "physical" and shift all of it to the astral. Being pulled back here every time and having to be here is just so frustrating. I know I am lacking in the actual training department a lot but in the immortal words of Reimu Hakurai from Touhou 2: "I hate training so much". If one only could stay comfy and take it easy and still achieve everything as soon as possible, it would be great.

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 >>/212/
> but I don't want to invite anyone yet because I don't know how lucid and stable my place is for others or if they can even join at all
Here's something you can use to practice. My lyran ship up there has an astral section which is open for visitors. You can astral travel there and you'll be let in if you're allowed to (the A.I. will determine). Just focus on the spiral of this image for about 20 seconds, then proceed as normal with your astral travel session.
The lobby has different tables out of which some are open and others are reserved for VIPs like the techno vampires from Black Hell group. You are free to approach other visitors and join them at their table if they give permission. There's also a bar where you can order food and drink (energy for its replication will be taken from your natural qi flow which is connected to the ship during your stay so everything is "free").

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 >>/213/
Thanks for the invitation! I'll be sure to visit later today. Or at least try. (But this image reminds of of something similar that I saw on /sunflower/ before.)
Altought I have trouble to tell of whether what I'm seeing astrally is "real" or created by my own visualization. Recently I went to the sunflower temple and I saw nobody here except for Yuuka, who was dancing a slow yet elegant dance on top of the round table in the middle of the gazebo. I watched it a little bit but as I didn't know if this was actually happening there anyway or the entire scene was fabricated by my mind I decided to remove myself and visit another time.
This is another plus for your own astral place, you already know everything is fabricated by your mind so there are no doubts.
> like the techno vampires from Black Hell group.
I'm too shy and anti-social to approach anyone, especially with my current ability level. Those vampires sounds just scary and dark, meanwhile I'm a pure idol-like cutesy vampire. A easy to understand vampire. But I will try my best! Take care and take it easy!

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 >>/214/
> Yuuka, who was dancing a slow yet elegant dance on top of the round table
Someone on /x/ made this drawing of a place they found on the astral ;)

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 >>/212/
The precipitating cause is: nails, in the hands and feet.

 >>/215/
Wow that's pretty cool, seems like that anon can really see stuff on the astral with all those colors and energy. Meanwhile I just visualized a green field with lots of sunflowers and a gabezo under blue sky, and when you enter it it becomes much bigger and kinda different inside than it looks from outside. Even my Yuuka looks standart Yuuka from all the pictures on the net while his looks much more unqiue. But hey, maybe we both saw the same scene.

 >>/217/
I don't know what you mean or which part of my post you are referring to, sorry. I didn't even know what "precipitating" means so I looked it up and I still don't know what you mean.

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https://8chan.moe/voxxe/res/9868.html#q10306
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You're welcome to visit~

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> culling 90% of the population
Plebs. Yuuka said 99,7% will be removed, the number of souls to be left from our period may land at the christian prediction 144000 in the end. It won't be 500 million, we didn't even have that after the black death, it was 100 mil worldwide. Leave it at 500 mil and we'd be back in the same mess in 300 years.

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I just want to live in peace and be left alone. Matching to this season, work through my life's past events and resolve all the filters I have in my mind. Reaching a state of silence and focus. 
With governments and the workplace getting more and more intrusive about medical data and authoritarian moves, it seems like finding silence won't be easy this winter.
I am not at a stage where I can completely "ignore" everything. What is the best way to deal with this?

 >>/220/
> Leave it at 500 mil and we'd be back in the same mess in 300 years.
We could eat more humans then. 100000 is one month worth of food for yokai. Also with 100000 it will be next to impossible to find a good human waifu for oneself since there is virtually nobody to choose from.

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 >>/224/
How many waifus do you need? I've been doing inventory of the possible ones in my area and have only found maybe a few 100 all in all. Assuming 100k includes all age groups there should be enough. Let's say for example that 

100k/2=50k are female
if for simplicity we say people live to 100, that means there's 
50k/100=500
for every age if evenly distributed (but in reality there should be more of the younger).
If you then assume the range of possible mates (since they age and you can wait if too young) when you start looking to be in the range 10 - 20, you have 10x500=5000 to choose from. If you also include age range up to 30 you have 10k to choose from.

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 >>/217/
Altought I have no idea if that poster is just a schizoposting npc or a "real" poster since he didn't seem to come back here, I think I understand a little bit more of what he meant when he replied to my previous post. The hanged man represents exactly my situation, just as this pic I'm attaching here, but I still don't know what he meant with nails in hand and feet. The hanged man is the person who is enlightened enough to see it's own prison and the nature of reality or how things are, and yet is still bound at the world tree. the upside down hanging of the hanged man represents the enlightened worldview or the different worldview as opposed to normal humans. He sees the tree inverted. Yet he is bound and cannot escape but mostly because of his own comfort zones and his own will. He may be scared or too weak inside to let go of the world tree and let himself fall into true freedom and the reality out there. Because being attached to the world tree is too comfy and too safe, even if that means your own death as you are still attached to the cycle of life and death which the world tree represents. It leads to final death. In the same manner I have expressed my favour of being in the comf and taking it easy altought it cannot be a good thing. I can see, but I cannot untie myself from the tree. Is this the meaning of the nails? Am I crucified to the trees and need to remove the nails, or does the crucification represents the death and rebirth that I need to go through just like Christ did? Maybe I am giving too much meaning to the posts of a schizo npc, but I admit if I think about it that post is surprisingly fitting.
 >>/225/
I don't need more than one waifu. Altought I don't know if I can choose from all of them, since the human males are the ones who will need human females in the first place, and then there might be other non humans who might be interested in some human females too, and whatever is left for me to pick, those might not even be interesting to me. Why am I even seriously thinking about this now lol, my post above wasn't actually meant to be serious. Well at any rate, I think it would be interesting to find a young female and be with her her entire life.

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So, I had a dream this morning just a while ago, I was in high-school but I don't see that part as relevant, but when I looked out the window I saw that there was some anime girls that I thought of as Touhous, they were looking at me and then some would go away and others would take their place. I think the only one that I recognized was Clownpiece or just someone that looked like her.

A little after that I started seeing subtitles in my vision but I could barely read them, it seemed to be offering a deal.

I'd like to know if it was really Touhous or someone else messing with me? (I do have trouble with a certain being related to contracts).

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 >>/257/
> I'd like to know if it was really Touhous or someone else messing with me?
I forgot to say please here. wew

 >>/257/
They're showing you they watch over you, and that there is an offer to join them, I think.

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 >>/259/
I see, thanks.
I'm very thankful to them for watching over me. They have helped me before more than once. I'm not sure about becoming a Touhou though, I often think about ways to make an astral body that would be immortal(out of Samsara) in a similar way that Touhous/Succubus are, but I don't want to make one with a mind/personality that cannot be changed with time, nor do I know how to make it immortal.

 >>/260/
You can have many different bodily forms with their own minds, like the hindu avatars. So don't worry about that.

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 >>/268/
Could be. That looks like an especially detached cloaking made by someone who really doesn't understand/care about what looks normal to humans.
Or it's a touhou.

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 >>/269/
> Or it's a touhou.
So mundanes and cameras can only see a Touhous broom? But they cannot see the frills, the dress, the hat and the bloomers. The best parts of a Touhou. Maybe it's because all those are parts of the Touhous chaos body, and the broom is just a regular physical broom the Touhou picked up? And it appears stuck in the air like a bug or lag because it's impossible to perceive a Touhous true dimensional movement with purely physical senses. 

Anyway, how do I measure or see my own Gong energy level? I started doing this breathing exercise and I want to see if I can notice any Gong increase in the next few weeks.

 >>/270/
If you can't see it you can't, I think. I see the energy as red or pink or any other color, mostly those and glowing green, sometimes black, there are different forms. But I think  in Qi Gong they only do red color.
When activated and compressed to a high degree is starts building upward into a spiral. This happened with my martial arts gong recently.

Maybe you can try sitting in burmese lotus and holding the pran mudra.
https://yoga.lovetoknow.com/yoga-pose-gallery/pran-mudra
Close your eyes and just observe, at least this increases the flow. If you can see it, it should be easier.

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 >>/271/
Okay thanks, I'll pay attention and try to see it.
By the way, if you find to time feel free to elaborate more on the Fay Social Order module which sounds like chinas social credit system to me atm. I understand the need to correct npcs and retarded mundanes with it, but I don't understand why anyone of us who value free will, individuality and real personal growth would take it. It's almost like the Touhous don't trust me to behave decently by myself, but then I'm wondering why I'm being kept in the first place. I just want to exist in peace without being vaccinated, force-corrected or implanted or forced into any system.

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 >>/272/
> elaborate more on the Fay Social Order module which sounds like chinas social credit system
That is a good enough description. But don't get me wrong, there will always be social credit systems. All you can do is choose a better one. If you compare for example USA with China, in USA they will socially shame and persecute people who went to prison, even after they served their sentence and were released. They will not be allowed to own guns or vote and there will be records kept on what they did forever. People will share lists of what criminals live in the area and they may not find employment. This leads them back to committing more crimes to survive.

In China there are specific rules for how long an impediment is kept in your record. If you did something serious maybe you get a spot in your record for 5 years, but then it's deleted. They've bureaucratically labled and measured everything, and once the time has past, the record is deleted and you're spotless again.
Chinese are very controlled by their system of rule so they will follow this.

Which is better? Unclear and potentially lifelong persecution, or a predictable system with set terms?

The Fay Social Order module is a direct copy of my past life personality from 1890s London with the values of decency and good manners that existed at the time, used as the base code of the program. This means an anarchistic monarchy system based on personal choice and agency. It means everyone need to behave based on self respect and personal values, and not based on what some central government will try to impose.

You can preview the full module by accessing the blacknet and it can't be installed unless you accept it in full, so there really is no problem.

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 >>/272/
> It's almost like the Touhous don't trust me to behave decently by myself, but then I'm wondering why I'm being kept in the first place. I just want to exist in peace without being vaccinated, force-corrected or implanted or forced into any system.
I just looked at your energy and this is the reason, you have a 
> wild kid
mentality, challenging authority and a strong will. If used in the right way it makes a really competent individual. But you have to use it. Having a context and a standard is beneficial.
(semi channeling from Gensokyo)

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 >>/273/
> The Fay Social Order module is a direct copy of my past life personality from 1890s London with the values of decency and good manners that existed at the time
You're Jack the Ripper aren't you. That's why the Sakya "Jill the Ripper" Character.
> You can preview the full module by accessing the blacknet and it can't be installed unless you accept it in full, so there really is no problem.
At the end of the day, do I have to take it or not? Will you be pushed away and blocked from new-earth if you refuse to take anything like that or can you adapt and behave properly by yourself?
> Which is better? Unclear and potentially lifelong persecution, or a predictable system with set terms?
You make it sound good but it feels wrong. It should be okay to adapt voluntary to the system and live with it without taking implants. But I can see how it would benefit to have it, just to have all the mundane mongloids in your environment "corrected".
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> wild kid
That seems true. Thanks for the explanation.

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 >>/275/
The name Jack was used by a journalist writing a fake letter to create a media narrative. As Crowley said it, "Jack" had found a way to become invisible. Invisible by being completely outside the stereotype of the kind of person who does this. "Jack" could have been caught literally red-handed and still not been suspected. Such are social conventions. The other letter is real.

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 >>/275/
> At the end of the day, do I have to take it or not? Will you be pushed away and blocked from new-earth if you refuse to take anything like that or can you adapt and behave properly by yourself?
New earth has nothing really to do with this earth, it's meant to be run by Gensokyo. But the Sakuya character with the included Jack-The-Ripper magic is a part of Gensokyo. If you don't want to use the remote that's fine. If you don't want the module that's also fine. It just means you will be nudged to correct yourself from outside instead. You're still going to live neighbour with Jill-The-Ripper on the new earth, because it's part of the lore, so it is relevant.

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 >>/278/
> You're still going to live neighbour with Jill-The-Ripper on the new earth, because it's part of the lore, so it is relevant.
It's okay, let's live together on new earth. And eat new humans...ahem, I didn't say this.

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 >>/279/
I don't know, I mean, it takes a certain population density, and after all the lyrans will be a natural part of society as well. They accept local cultures and others may see them as violent warmongers, but they're really refined and pacifist in reality. As Einstein said it in a letter to Freud, what we need is a militant pacifism. This may involve sacrificial killing, which has always been part of human culture. The lyrans themselves do ritual hunting on some nature reserve planets to maintain their traditional predator culture.
It's likely to be similar on earth. No mass slaughter in factories of chicken bred only to be killed after 6 weeks, that's low energy and very disrespectful. From an occult perspective it's also ineffective.
But it's unlikely there will be a situation like the one here in the last age where someone could go serial killer and gather occult energy that way. These things only happen by the endpoints of cultures. Same as the UN jesters who can only enter at the very last moment, my own way of doing this also only works in endtimes. The high energy moments of endtimes, but endtimes just the same.
It will be something else when things reset.

 >>/280/
Do you already know anything about the bodies we can/will use on the new earth? I hope we can use our astral bodies freely and permanently as for me it's the more appealing choice than my current human/vampire body. Mainly because I still have not attained enough power to alter and fix my old body or to change genders or teleport around etc. Can you live in the new earth system and culture being a dual being, a hetero male in your human body and a lesbian female in your astral body? I honestly don't see why it shouldn't be possible since the only difference is the bodies, but it all depends on how strict the system is.
> But it's unlikely there will be a situation like the one here in the last age where someone could go serial killer and gather occult energy that way.
If the new humans are not npcs, it should be the aim to go without killing as much as possible. You certainly don't want to serial-kill non-npcs, but depending on the circumstances and your desire to taste a new human at least once there may be a few exeptions. I mean Touhous probably will continue eating humans anyway.

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 >>/281/
> Do you already know anything about the bodies we can/will use on the new earth?
They are likely to be compatible with our current bodies, but different. Touhous on the astral are female in form but can actually manifest male genitals if needed. I don't see a way to solve this physically in an aesthetic way, so it's more likely there will be some other social situation or perhaps a return to occult methods of procreation where no physical intercourse is performed. Or they'll have clits which can expand ;^)
There are already incarnated aliens as well as native non-humans on earth, and those races will be kept, so it will be diverse already.
It explained to me that the reason we can't see reptilians the way they are, is because the human eyes don't actually "see" things. Rather they take in basic information about an object and refer to a list of existing objects which is stored on a meta plane. If something new is invented, the image will be registered in this list and you are able to see it. But aliens or esotericists can override the list and make it so that when a humans looks at object "reptilian" it refers to "human" and the eyes will present the image of a human.
This could be one way the aliens cloak their ships also. We can't know what that broom
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is, other than that it's something of similar size. Someone could have made it so that when you look at object "Marisa", it refers to "broom" and we see only a broom.

> a hetero male in your human body and a lesbian female in your astral body?
This is already possible. We had a thread for visiting Gensokyo on 8kun where it was explained that the session will end with an offer to create a touhou body. You can do this for any race you are compatible with.
But it's not likely you can be any gender of any race anywhere. Me for example, I manifest as a male djinn, a male drow, male angel, but female in most other settings. It has to do with what your role is. Djinn do not generally accept strong women as an idea, so if you want to "handle" them you have to be male. Hence when I can subdue them, they see me as male. A woman can't do that, but would become subordinate to them. Drow are either way, since they have female domination also, but in general they prefer men to be above women.

I think you have to go beyond the mere physicality of it and look at the cultural aspect of the genders.

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 >>/282/
So Touhous become real futas... sugoi. But yes, it's easy on the astral. What I still don't know is if I can live on new earth in my astral body and not my human body. This is something that does not seem to be possible currently for me but it would be cool if it was possible on the new earth. I did not create a Touhou body per se, but I have created my own chaos level body based on your body creation tutorial and my own work.
No idea if that body can be considered "Touhou" or if it can become a Touhou.
I have a lot of questions still but it's enough for now. After all we are still on old earth I need to focus on what's important now. I'll be focusing on complete and perfect detachment from this world and keep working on my astral abilities and my astral place and body, as I feel this is the only thing I can do now and the only thing that matters. I want to shift to the astral completely as it seems that the new earth stuff is beyond my control and nobody knows when or how it will happen that we can go there.

 >>/282/
Well if you ask me what role I would want to play on new earth since with very limited population spots it's likely that everyone will have to have a purpose, I would probably be okay with getting myself a human waifu and roleplaying as a human until she dies, and then I would drop the role and visit as a Touhou from time to time. Or maybe I could take the role of a immortal vampire or chaos being right from the start, as this is more like what I am now.

Maybe Jaldabaoth is the reason why this universe has very low mutability. I assumed it was just a metaphor but monotheism is big here and a prison planet spell would explain a lot.

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I found this chart today.
How accurate is it?
It's interesting to see where they put Yuuka.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=bGbxpsAXdMY

Sadhguru talking about how A.I. will make conventional education meaningless.

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It may seem a bit late for planning but a new years' session will probably be held. It will be in a format making it available during a time window with timeline correction so that everyone has a fair chance to take part. Keep an eye on this thread.

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'New year's session for 2022
Perform before the new year begins 

https://pastebin.com/2EnG7LAE

 >>/304/
As it turns out the planning had already been made, instructions were given once asked.

 >>/304/
Excuse me for asking, but isn’t this essentially a standard ritual for manifesting a goal? What is there special about this session? Besides the use of the sunflower egregore.

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 >>/309/
> What is there special about this session?
It is performing this type of session with the Whitechapel coven, a group not normally opening themselves to the public. It will give you access to this specific type of magic/energy/direction originating in the culture of the UK.
It is a popularized version of ancient witchcraft still present today. The relevance for doing the new year's session within this framework is related to the direction of the coming year.

From a wider perspective, UK english (language) is useful all over the world because of its spread, and the culture is universal. The most universal I would even say, from a certain shallowness and objectivity which gives it the ability to penetrate into many local cultures and influence them. It's offering a good core/base.

Been enjoying coming into conflict with things. Occasionally I am attacked in my dreams. This is a great event. Real-world experience. Sometimes I remember myself and I can experiment, see how I can deconstruct the Truth that these invading demons carry. Sometimes I forget myself and have to fall back on my construct's strength. Occasionally it fails, but that's okay because Pain is informative as well.
I think this mindset protects me from the true purpose of the demons' work. They caught me once, threw me into a torture planet. Nothing but cells and screams. I accepted it. I was eager. Somehow this rendered them impotent. They needed me to be afraid, for whatever it was they were doing to work. Enslave me? I could see how a lot of people could fall into that trap. 

But I need something solid to work towards, that isn't just dreams. Something that ties in with the Truths I've seen. I haven't been able to find it in this world. I've tried knocking down some of the gods who run this show. It works, I know I'm not impotent here. But it feels pointless. Like kicking an ant hill. No purpose. I can't invest my spirit into this work.

Had an informative dream. I was outside a house and I had dementia. I was getting accosted by visions. I decided to try and use my will to affirm to myself that the visions were not reality. This worked and they immediately disappeared and I began peacefully waking peacefully through a garden. But then I started noticing a repetitive rasping noise. After maybe a minute or two it occurred to me that the rasping was breathing. The moment this thought passed through my head my awareness was catapulted into a new reality, I was suffocating while staring up into the sky at the stars. Not because anything was blocking my throat but because I was holding my breath. This feeling of suffocation was unlike anything I'd ever experienced in a dream, it was so intense. I immediately began hyperventilating and catching my breath, like someone who just almost drowned. I fell over and could only concentrate on my breathing before I woke up.

This experience made me realize that there is a very fundamental connection between the act of breathing and the act of being real. Somehow when I banished the visions in my dream that caused me to begin holding my breath. And then once I was forced to begin breathing again, awareness naturally latched onto that verb and transformed reality accordingly.

 >>/388/
This somehow feels like the experience of the Simha Kriya exercise. For being "just breathing" it is just way too effective. It must be about the syncing of your own physical breathing with the "breathing" of phenomena around you.

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 >>/390/
> We've entered Gensokyo-earth
I wish I could see anything of it. Same anon here as  >>/279/  >>/283/  >>/275/
I admit I was expecting a more clean start and a big, noticable reset. The landscape reset, new japanese architecture, maybe a new body even. But my neighbours are still the same obnoxious mongloids, the ugly subhumans are still filling the same old streets instead of Touhous and Lyrans, the forests all around my place are still being cut down more and more and the same old government still tries to force vaccinate me. The times and the view are still as jolly as ever, and it doesn't look anything gensokyo like at all. You said new humans have been already created. Are they still in another dimensional location or are they already with us?

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 >>/399/
> clean start and a big, noticable reset. The landscape reset, new japanese architecture
We won't see it until the time within our own timeline officially runs out, which according to Yuuka will take place in 2025. That's when the full effect of the CERN mishap in 2008 will show, as all timelines come crashing down on each other. But the lyran involvement will lessen the impact of it, so the initial description of large buildings overlapping and crashing into each other may not happen.
> But my neighbours are still the same obnoxious mongloids, the ugly subhumans are still filling the same old streets instead of Touhous and Lyrans, the forests all around my place are still being cut down more and more and the same old government still tries to force vaccinate me.
Most of these things aren't there unless you are looking at them. I was shown how my surrounding area is just a paper sketch of roads with some 3 frame animations of cars moving, just to keep the most essential energy flow going.
I felt critical still, but next time I went shopping the following happened:
Random NPCs looked directly at me, nodded friendly and said "hello" as I passed them. I counted 6 in a row who did this. It kept happening as I went out into the parking lot. 
These were not people I know, or people who had any reason to regognize me. Even as a local, people don't do this in town. I have nothing more to say about this personally after experiencing this. The NPCs are only there because I am, they have no other purpose.
> You said new humans have been already created. Are they still in another dimensional location or are they already with us?
They are on earth but they are beyond our time. It may sound conceptually strange but they are 
> beyond 2025
even if they already exist with us here now. Earlier I didn't dare talking about their location because someone may try to sabotage things, but by now I've been given an OK to talk about it vaguely.
The new Eden is in the area of Siberia and Mongolia. The mainland close to Japan. They are in a protected "garden" where they will develop peacefully for some time. Then some of them will come out from there and take over the world. They will look kinda like us, but they will have new skills we cannot understand. They may be seen a supernormal, some may think they are angels. That is as much Yuuka will let me say.

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> large buildings overlapping and crashing into each other may not happen.
Why yes, who needs the most fun part anyway?
Not sure if I can or want to endure to 2025, first and foremost my goal is to leave the physical asap but if I'm still alive in the physical for some messed up reason in 2025 then let's check those Shin Humans out together and maybe get a waifu (and taste them). Yes, I am willing and in fact do reject the Cabal and New Earth and everything else in favour of liberating myself from the physical and moving into the astral or into a quantum state of existence. Even if it in fact kills me.
See you, Space Vampire.

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 >>/401/
If that is how you feel, maybe it's how it will happen, and should happen. I used to think I knew how my main life in the 1880s London ended, but later recollections tell of a different story. It seems I even cut my own throat but was just put back and woke up in my bed as if nothing had happened. Now I know it's because I'm somehow synced with the galactic federation so they will resurrect me if needed (at the cost of a few million NPCs if needed). I don't know what will be the effect of someone doing this after having accepted the strain of magic passed by me, but I suspect there will be a similar effect.
They don't even care, but have instead told me to just channel them better, the energetic cost of what I do will be paid by them as long as I'm synced, and taken out on the people who should have protected me.
It used to give me a comforting feeling to put myself in physical danger, I now know why. Anyone being loyal enough will be supported, not based on any other skill, but only for being synced.

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 >>/214/ this was also one of my posts. As you may see, I just want to be a burikko vampire in freedom. Living in my own astral place, bothering nobody. I guess it's my "wild kid" personality. Weak entities who need to have slaves or who need to be slaves will call me a problem child, but for me it's the only way to live. I do not want to be against anyone or in anyones way, but there will be nothing in the way of my will either. When you replied to me on haven and I read stuff like "after 1000 years they'll start having you washing dishes" and that they'll following orders I already realized I can reject the Cabal rather easily.
Suicide of course is not a desirable option at all, much better is it to ascend or transform out of the physical. I think this is my path. Because I choose it myself, not because of fate or anyone else saying so. If Cain and the Daft Lady could do it, I can do it too and so can you. 
This is one of the reasons I asked before if it's possible to live in our astral bodies on new earth, as I wouldn't mind to visit from time to time. After getting out of the physical, I don't see what would stop you to manifest back in. And I also don't see why some sort of Galactic Federation or whoever would have a problem with an immortal living on the astral instead of the physical. They should mind their own business, it's not like I'm starting a fight with them. I don't care about them or being synced to them honestly. 
Come to my astral for a visit tough, if you can find it. It's a new place, not the one with the docks and the extreme gravity because of Babymetal anymore.

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 >>/403/
That's all fine. 
One of the things I had to see and learn in this life was that despite my anarchistic anti-centralism mentality, I really do best as a cog in the machine so to speak. It just has to be my type of machine and no one else will tell me what role I should play without doing a correct assessment of my potential. The current world is trying to disrespect me. It doesn't matter to me if this organization doesn't exist, I will just create it. I'll be the king, the army, the street thug and the merchant all at once, until I find the right people for the spot.
This kind of highly collectivized mentality may be the reason for the galfed support. I want to be able to focus on the details, my little scope of them, and know that everything else is being handled by other people also tending to their details. My main objection to the modern world is its utter incompetence. Our leaders are iq69 substance abuse extremists who cheated their way into a control position and have been abusing it for 1000s of years. As the commander and the executioner, I will have to bring them to justice. It's not tolerable what they have been doing and they will pay back in full.
As long as this can be done, I'm fine with syncing with space communists. If they were as incompetent as the earth leaders, they wouldn't support me. I don't have morals, I respect strength. When I see someone claim to have it, I will test to see if they do. So far what I've faced in the world has all been fake. I respect real authority, but I will slaughter anyone putting on a uniform thinking this will protect them with nothing to show for it.
The current western world is filled with empty uniforms, but as everyone else are also cowards faking it, they don't dare calling the bluff. 
I'm here to put these card houses in the trash.

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 >>/404/
Do what you must. In the end, I must say one last thing and it's that I did greatly appreciate the places you have created during the end times which acted as zones of guidance, motivation and safe/comfort zones for little wizards with potential until they have enough confidence to stand on their own feet. Even if a wizard eventually rejects everything he learned from here again and goes completely his own way and never looks back, the usefulness and the stepping stones all of this stuff became cannot be denied. Just my personal experience and oppinion as someone who started out as a complete mundane (or so it seems).

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 >>/405/
It's all according to expectations.

Reminder: if you're planning on doing the new year's session, you have only a day left now before the time window closes.

https://pastebin.com/2EnG7LAE

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Happy new year everyone!

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 >>/408/
Happy new year!!!

How do I go about creating a barrier around me like Gensokyo's Barrier? Something that keeps those with negative intentions towars me out I mean, and also keeps negative intentions from getting to me so that it protects from curses too. I'm thinking something that doesn't allow these beings to percieve me would be nice, but then I don't know if they would be able to try something indirect. 
I think the barrier should be connected to some indestructible concept but I have no idea what kind of concept to chose or how this connection to the concept would be made or how to make the connection/association indestructible itself.

Any ideas?

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Start by taking a look at
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You can't create such a barrier if a significant part of yourself is sticking out, outside of the barrier. First you must contain yourself on the inside of it. The "trick" here would be that there is nothing to attack, the barrier doesn't even have to be very strong at that point.

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 >>/412/
I see, thank you.
No idea if I can make that, but I realized that such a barrier may no longer be needed for me now. Thanks anyway.

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Found this and thought it was interesting so I'm sharing it here.

 >>/420/
It looks like a representation of the Babel's tower device, pretty close to what they look like on the astral.

 >>/421/
Forgot to share that the artwork is called "The Sunflower Monolith". Black monoliths like this show up in 2001 A Space Odyssey where they seem to represent a something that causes a major step in the evolution of a species.

 >>/422/
> Black monoliths like this show up in 2001 A Space Odyssey
I assumed these to be the same as the ones which can be seen on the astral in populated locations. Earlier I was speculating on wether these appeared after humans settled, or if humans settled where they already existed. Going by the Babylonian channelling, it would seem these are the astral technology side of the 5G towers used in ancient times for controlling botsouls. It seems reasonable that humans would settle in these areas again, as the towers still send out some kind of signal for mindcontrol.

Found this and decided to share https://www.maitreyastore.com/p/removing-j-seals/

It says that there are 7 "Jehovian Seals" on our energy body.

Seal 1 – Top of the Skull of the Left side
Seal 2 – Heart, Left Lung, back Left Knee
Seal 3 – Pineal Gland
Seal 4 – Left side of Neck and Lymphatics
Seal 5 – Rear Left Thigh and Buttock
Seal 6 – Alta major (where skull rests atop the spine), hypothalamus, and top of left shoulder
Seal 7 – Aorta Artery on Left Side of Neck

Its not my first time hearing about those and I wish to know if anyone knows if those are really a thing? And if so, should they be removed?

 >>/435/
> should they be removed?
I asked my galfed contacts about it. They said at first that it was pointless to remove them because
> 1) as long as you on earth in this society the implants will just be recreated in a matter of seconds from removal
2) if you remove them you lose energetic stability because it's like having had a physical structural implant like a replacement hip: what will happen if you remove a prothesis implant?

But I asked them to show me and they did. They removed the one in the neck, and it did indeed come back in just 15 seconds. So whoever is selling that service is just ripping people off. It's useless.
But I did notice that the way the implant came back looked different from how it was installed before. They agreed, then pointed out that I had already removed the one at the alta major as a result of yogic practices and that one had not been recreated because I had stabilized myself.
I then asked them to remove all of them just to see, and it seems if you are able to push your gong into the empty spots and concretize something that will work. But for most people, let the implants stay, it would be harmful to have them removed at worst, useless in the best case.

If you want I can remove them, it was pretty simple, but I think unless you got rid of at least one yourself already that it will not do you any good. People tend to have this view that all implants are bad, but they don't understand that humans placed themselves in this vulnerable spot to begin with. Many ETs meddle in things, but much of what they do also stabilize things that would get even worse if they left it alone. The implants don't prevent ascension, the mentality that allowed them to be installed did.

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 >>/438/
I see, guess I'm better off not messing with them then. I'm glad that you managed to get rid of yours though.

Speaking of implants, I've called an Archangel into my room a while ago and he removed three triangles like pic related all side by side that were in my heart, I talked with a friend about it and he said he removed the same thing years ago. Any idea what those are?

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 >>/439/
> all side by side 
I meant that they were positioned like this(pic related).

Wish I knew how to delete my posts here for when I make mistakes.

 >>/440/
> how to delete my posts
Fill in a password at the box by the top of the thread. Then check the box by the post and fill in the password and captcha by the bottom if you want to delete it.

 >>/439/
> Archangel
I have angels at my paradise so I asked them to take a look. They said those where installed in the heart and took one out to look at it. They don't know what it is. One of them used a knife to dig in it to see what was inside and it broke, shooting out a spiral spring of pink energy as if it was a mechanical device with a spring in tension as part of the function. They took out the other two and are looking at them now. My heart feels lighter and interestingly my left calf muscle suddenly felt very relaxed with a slight itch. The feeling is spreading to the left side of my skull. As I'm typing now there's a tingling feeling in both the left calf and left side of the head, spreading into my left elbow.

Maybe it's related to those other ones. It's probably no coincidense you felt like bringing this up right now.

 >>/442/
Ok, they're saying it's a 3-phase pacemaker, installed to keep humans in sync with whatever other things are in society.

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 >>/441/
 >>/442/
> Fill in a password at the box by the top of the thread. Then check the box by the post and fill in the password and captcha by the bottom if you want to delete it.
I see, thanks for letting me know.

> Maybe it's related to those other ones. It's probably no coincidense you felt like bringing this up right now.
Could be, IDK.

I knew about this stuff for months or a year by now, but I often hesitate to post for some reason and end up forgetting to post, guess I'm too soft and worried about being mocked tbh.

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I can't wait for winter here.

 >>/444/
> worried about being mocked

don't worry this is a bully free zone 

and I also thank you for this post because my pulse is being jumpy in the last months and it's because something doesn't like my mental state and it messes with me through my heart. 
Learning about these implants helped me too

 >>/446/
> don't worry this is a bully free zone 
Good to know. Thanks.

> and I also thank you for this post because my pulse is being jumpy in the last months and it's because something doesn't like my mental state and it messes with me through my heart.
> Learning about these implants helped me too
You're welcome, glad to know that it helped people.

Last night I dreamed there was something "growing" out of my left wrist by the little finger. It looked like a sedum plant. It felt like it was parasitic and I tried repeatedly to pull it out. Eventually I half woke up and pulled it out by sending some gong like a corkscrew to drill the thing out.
When I woke up this morning I noticed a green energy is filling the "hole" left where the thing was. I got the impression it was related to those implants on the left half of the body. The right wrist doesn't have anything, but it's also not very energetic so I don't think a parasite could attach there.

 >>/449/
I didn't notice anything like this after the removal of the 3 heart implants, guess it was related to the "J-seals".

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 >>/449/
 >>/450/
Yuuka explained it. These flowers are parasitic but in the same way there are micro organisms, bacteria etc in the body. They serve a purpose on the energy body, they keep the energy channels (meridians) open and can prevent illnesses by absorbing negative qi. Plants are earth in element so they can consume it. But it's rarely seen anymore because humans have too much dirty qi and karma so the plants just die. If they appear somewhere it's because the environment was "just dirty enough" for their cleansing effect to be possible. Pulling the flower out removed the blockage which had been entangled in its roots.

TL:DR
If they appear it's not a problem, if you feel uncomfortable you can try to pull them out and your meridian may unblock.

I just sort of stumbled across this strange thought. I always assumed that my spirit has never been incarnated as a human before, since I have very little attachment to humans in general. But today I recalled that every one of my family members has mentioned that I have almost an uncanny similarity in both personality and idiosyncrasies to my grandfather. I feel a strange sort of empathy with him as well. But, I was born well before my grandfather died. However, I recall him always acting as though he wasn't always entirely there. Like he had dementia or something. And then I remember this extremely vivid dream I had last year, where I was investigating my grandfather's involvement with a cult of occultists (OTO? It felt like Aleister Crowley). Which strikes me now as very strange, since I knew him as just a lump that sat on a recliner all day watching TV. 

So I'm wondering, is it possible that I was born an organic portal he somehow transferred his spirit into me shortly after I was born in an attempt to escape his aging body? I don't know, maybe this is just a meaningless flight of fancy. But it feels like I'm approaching something close to the truth.

 >>/465/
Timelines may overlap without being actually connected with interactivity. It's possible you were him and met your current self as a kid, but from the past perspective you couldn't interact because there was "no one home". 
What you remember of him would be the same, he was just an image to you being sent across time.

Time is chronological in one-directional tunnels, but at the intersections things leave that logic.

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Did anyone make use of the devices here  >>/60/  >>/61/  >>/70/ ??
And if so could you guys share some experiences you had with them?

I plan on using the red lens, but I worry that it may make my life harder that it is currently.

BTW I took a look at the 8cuck board and someone wanted to join the collective and someone posted some poem that looks like a spell there.

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 >>/476/
Thanks.
Maybe this is someone's map of the 3rd layer?
It has 15 lines.

Over the past few days I've seen the galfed use something that looked like large pneumatic drills to penetrate the defensive barriers of the biggest elites. Last night they said they were done and were going to put their souls in recycling (burning them).

 >>/486/
Interesting, I saw some new agey video supposedly related to the galfed claiming that for the last few days there is/was a portal open for energies from the 5th dimension to come in to the 3d. I did feel pretty good these last few days (but not as good today) so I'm inclined to believe it.

 >>/492/

Do we have a proper understanding what is in the 5th dimension?

I mean I know I could google it but I rather not wade through a bunch of disorganized new age content if it can be written down in several sentences.

 >>/476/
 >>/478/
That text was written by Crowley. I don't think it's a map.
 >>/499/
 >>/500/
I tried to find "Soros' house". Looks like a big operation. Saw some spirits and machines around it. I saw some insects/worms with with long light brown bodies and black head. I asked around and they said the body would not die but the soul would be replaced.
I would apreciate if anyone could give confirmation of anything I wrote above.

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 >>/498/
> Do we have a proper understanding what is in the 5th dimension?
It's the lowest enlightenment level, corresponding to Bodhidharma and zen buddhism as far as I know. The new age community tends to put a lot of focus on the 
> ascension to the 5th dimension
thinking it's something that will happen collectively to all humans. I don't believe that will happen, but then I'm left hand path so I focus on myself and my friends. Collective ascension is a RHP thing.
I think they imply that galactic starships are in the 5th dimension, which I guess technically could be true for some of them, but their crews would all have to be the level of Bodhidharma then. Why would they interfer with humans?

 >>/503/
> they said the body would not die but the soul would be replaced
This much I know is happening, and has happened for the past 12 years or so. It's the zombiefication process, where someone then remotely controls the body, or temporarily possesses it. Obama for example was this way already during his time in office.

 >>/503/
 >>/505/
Who exactly is puppetting these zombies?

 >>/508/
Most are just controlled by the egregore they live in, so the collective subconscious, because their soul was removed. Sometimes they're possessed by entities who make use of them, other times it's organizations, as in this case the galactic federation.
"Who" more specifically could be anyone, a fairy, a demon, an elf, a reptilian...

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 >>/529/

How much nuclear will things get?

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 >>/533/
Perhaps things will only get comfy.

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 >>/538/
I hope so

I have been constructing an "astral god body" to move into eventually. I think it's going pretty good. I started just breathing through it, after that I created a link so that it draws off of my memories. Otherwise whenever I moved my awareness into it I forgot what I was doing. After 3-4 days of working on it I was able to get it to maintain a coherent train of thought.

It's a lot easier to perform almost all workings while inhabiting this body. Also my dreams have been gaining mythic structure since starting, whereas before they were mostly just mundane everyday situations. Hopefully once the body is developed far enough I'll automatically move into it when this human body loses consciousness. Once that occurs regularly I think I'll be able to shift my 'base of operations' into it permanently.

 >>/572/
I remember there being a ring in the temple or something that created a chi body for some spirit, I think something similar could help you here, like a ring that feeds the astral body that you're making.

An 'ability' is a truth manifested as a path of causality.

The causal pathway is experienced through 'dominion' -- that is, assertion of ownership or being in relation to the reality thus depicted. 

Ability is therefore accomplished through entanglement with virtue corresponding to dominion.

Just realized that a very large psychic parasite has been attached to me for a few years now, causing multiple errors in perception. Will commence the deletion process.

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During meditation yesterday morning an image appeared and started forming.
It was the illuminati pyramid, but some connections were shown. This has the traditional pyramid with the 3 classes of society from the bottom up, the eye is the elite class.
Then the upside down pyramid for the secret elites on top.
But they are part of a masonic formation, which now that I drew it also looks like the thelema symbol.
This would mean that no matter how retarded, freemasons are the bottom of the real elite class.

I believe the death process and the afterlife are basically a dream while our life experiences are processed and incorporated into our spiritual self before unconsciously, and subconsciously, choosing or manifesting another reincarnation.
Key point: whomever you interact with "in heaven" or "in purgatory" are subjective projections of your unraveling psyche. Just as in dreams, sometimes "real" spirits can interact with each other if they resonate close enough, but we're for the most part surrounded by our own oniric atmosphere.
Also: there is no "planning" or "choosing" your next incanation any more than you plan or choose the manifestations you realize IRL or the karma you generate. It's all unconscious, based on the contents of your energy (karma).

How close am I?

 >>/664/
Daily sleep and dreaming are smaller versions of death, in which you sort out the energy structures you accumulated during the day. Death is a longer period of sleep in which you sort out the energy structures you accumulated during life, and you wake up into a brand new body, egoic mind and astral form (for most people, only the nucleus of their being remains, deep behind their subconscious).

 >>/664/
This way of reasoning is talked of in the order of nine angles, where they say some will understand the dark gods as entities external to the person, while others will treat them as manifestations of their own psychology.
There is no saying that one way is wrong and the other is rignt. Some people will probably create servitors in the image of the gods as they learn of them. So telling them that the gods are external would then be to tell that person a lie. While at the same time someone else may connect with external entities, and telling them that it's a mere creation of the mind, would also be wrong.

 >>/666/
Yeah but I’m not talking about the nature of beings, but of the afterlife itself. It being a real objective shared experience versus a subjective dream that is a reflection of the alchemical process the soul is undergoing in preparation for the next incarnation.

 >>/667/
I'm saying it's both.

 >>/668/
So in your view, the subjective dream of the afterlife is connecting to an objective reality?
I get how that works in principle, but if the soul is in the process of unraveling in preparation for its next encarnation, wouldn't allowing interaction with others open up the potential for new karma outside incarnation? Is this possible?

 >>/670/
I'm thinking that what you're posting is an assumption, and that whatever you experience and create is real to you. But it also objectively exist and can be seen by others, even if they don't interfere or interact with what you do. Karma the way I see it only refers to your actions while incarnated so you can't change or create it between incarnations, aside from purgatory. But that's a one-way cleanse, it doesn't create new karma.

 >>/538/
Do you think the "real elite" class are "living" breathing humans or they might be a system of entities or maybe a protective system that shields them from the "above"?

 >>/670/
> but if the soul is in the process of unraveling in preparation for its next encarnation

And to complicate things you have the "vengeful spirits" and other souls who can't move on from this world until their last desire is fulfilled or get banished. but then again they are not at the 
> process of unraveling in preparation for its next encarnation
so yeah all things are possible

 And I think I instantly got reincarnated when I died and all the bullshit that I caused in that life is trying to make a comeback because whenever I think about the things I got from this life are things that my "previous life" would have "wanted" but then again we are in a different era with different circumstances so you get new desires as you go forward especially when you get a mindwipe from the horrors of your previous life 

The more you learn about the afterlife the more confusing it gets.

I'm surprised works by CLAMP aren't discussed at all in this board.

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 >>/680/
I'm just not drawn to them, Chobits was ok but kind of shallow. The rest of what they've made just feels uninteresting to me. 
We also don't discuss my all time favourite Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex or the classic Appleseed. They're old, but despite relevant there isn't much to say. 
I meant to read the second manga book "Man-machine interface" because it seems to be more relevant today with smartphones and AI. But who else will want to talk about this 90s manga? You'd have to read it first.
It's just how it is, seasonal anime tends to be more relevant in the now.

 >>/681/
Ghost in the Shell is an absolute favorite of mine. Chobits... well, I remember it with fondness.
But I'm drawn to X for it's esoteric symbolism, which I don't know if it's actually any good or significant.

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 >>/680/
Well this was not the thing I wanted to post from my ancient meme folder but it's related anyway... 
 xxxHolic anime only here the ending was such a mess I had to read up what even just happened in the manga 

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Schizoid tutorialposter from the old 8kun board, reporting in. Things have been pretty interesting since my chatting with BO and that hopeful seeker on Discord. /sunflower/ represented my first direct cotact with LHP wizards, and 3 sessions of contact I made with associated entities have helped me massively. Before making my first tutorial post there, a succubus from the collective taught me how to develop the kundabuffer organ.
My delve into gensokio and the cannibalistic initiation I received allowed me to fully accept the "negative" nature of my own being, and take hold of power I was afraid to use due to the mental block that is morality. Further talks with Yuuka provided a theoretical understanding of these innate aspects I had once rejected. BO's intermediary act of passing on my old mentor and ages-past commander of the Federation war fleet provided the last piece of directed, unyielding materializing focus to take hold of reality. Of these, the first two are totally new revelations that I've attracted with a spell towards the end of my "previous" life to ensure this one is the definitive one with which I achieve my ascension (which in a roundabout way already happened and always had, nonlinearity of time and all that), the latter is a holdover from my time as commander and chief enginner of the light cruiser Luna.

I used these things to shift my autistic rejection of reality as a concept, into a total egoistic focus which I then cast as a spell. The thing I decided, somewhat arbitrarily, to claim for myself with this newfound control, was limitless wealth and total financial freedom. I decided I wanted more money than I could possibly use, and made that a reality.
With that shift in attentive power, the state of internal tension I held myself in has vanished, and I've found that my mental influence over people as well as reality hasn't diminished, but grown more extensive instead. "Suggestions" are no longer forced, but melded into the fabric of mind and energy, manifest in a subtler, but much more complete form.
In the months since, I've been exploring this position of split authorship over my own reality (with my still incomplete local being taking more and more of the aspect and arbitrary power of my total self). Telekinesis of dense "physical" objects is still hard, but no longer totally impossible.

 >>/221/
I'm currently in that position to ignore things, and the effect is interesting. Yes, you can focus on personal growth much more, but I now lack a driving conflict to care about. External pressure is a massive help to internal development. With little left to fight, I turn to punishing the current masters of the Federation for engineering a project which, in marking the weak for removal (which I see no problem with), have also marked members of my present family. Their worlds will be bathed in fire and blood.
However, they are at a comfortable distance and are not (currently) opposing me. This comfy state of affairs is not good for growth.
You can do what I did if you want, but designer clothes and fancy gadgets aren't as nurturing an environment as the grime of a battlefield and the weight of a gun. It's your story to write, so write it.

 >>/257/
Clownpiece has also reached out to me, and observes with a mixture of playful interest and chaotic malice. This is a being of immense power and nebulous interests, tread with care in accepting any knowledge or wisdom.
 >>/259/
And the teachings she in particular offers could destroy an unprepared sorcerer. If they don't, she knows your use of them will make the world so much more nonsensical and interesting. Win-win for her.
 >>/261/
In a way all of your incarnations are that as well, provided you've ascended at some point.

 >>/268/
People only perceive what they're synchronized with. This is how ship cloaking works, the entire vessel enters a higher frequency that the metaphysically impraired cannot see. This could either be a vessel, or an individual person using the same technique mentally, and it either isn't complete and some part of the conceptualized higher state meshes enough to be seen, or it was done on purpose. Keep in mind that if humans can see it, it gets manifested into their frequency as well, and behaves like a physical object. I suspect the broom could impact a tree if the operator isn't careful, and either knock the person on its ass, or damage the vessel.
 >>/270/
If it's a touhou, the broom was left out on purpose. The touhou could manifest physically in full at will, and simply chooses not to.
 >>/272/
You aren't being "kept." If the touhous help you it's because they believe it'll benefit them. If you accept anything, it's because you wished to do so. Keep in mind that beings like these despise weakness and subservience, they won't think any better of you if you meekly submit to any (perceived) impossition.
 >>/275/
> (he's) Jack the Ripper
This is a known fact. He's also many other things but none of them are "safe." Think long and hard of what you'll accept from a sorcerer.
> can you adapt
The question should be, can anyone impose anything on you? They can certainly try, but the entire orbital detachment isn't enough to budge a master.
That said, I think you misunderstand BO's module thing. The way he conceptualizes it is different from the way you do, and this will affect what it does. If you take it thinking it'll control you, it will, but from BO's perspective it isn't like this.
 >>/276/
You forgot to mention that you were also physically and mentally invisible much of the time.
 >>/279/
The heart is especially delish.
 >>/282/
Very good description of human perception. Reptilians have also been creating humanized hybrids which are closer in form and mentality. Even if you'd see them as they are, you might not be that distressed.
 >>/283/
Why are you so attached to the idea of a body in the first place? You make it up on the spot and use it at will, until you no longer need it, IF you needed it in the first place. I have no name, no form. I have a symbol of authority, the sigil of a single constant of reality and consciousness, and will appear as I need to for the goals I have. Manifest as whatever fits your attachments.
 >>/390/
It's interesting that we still share a reality. So this is what the timeline split was all about. Neat.
 >>/400/
Interesting, prophecies of some recent adepts mentioned a "star-crowned" prince rising from the East in conquest.
 >>/402/
I've had similar situations in my current life. The Federation is not involved in my case, but there is no risk of death due to measures of my own. Glad I put those in place.
 >>/403/
Exactly, you can manifest wherever and whenever you wish, however you wish. All that's holding you back are mental blocks, don't reinforce them. The Federation generally won't bother masters and powerful entities, and if they tried, can they stop you?
 >>/404/
Abuse extremism is based, being a brainlet isn't. The elites are decaying in a soup of their own genetic failures.
If you really wish to do all this, I may help in the future. 
 >>/405/
Nice and wholesome message, anon.
 >>/412/
Good advice. This is what I've been doing since forever, and it leaves you untouchable to almost anything. It's the difference between a ship's torsion drive used for shielding, as opposed to warp. Warp puts you entirely out of frame with any source of harm, but you must step out of it to attack.
 >>/451/
You can achieve the same thing by etherizing mold fungi and integrating them into your body. Slightly different effect but much more robust against incoherent energy.

 >>/465/
This is entirely possible, and it's what I intended to do before achieving my current level of control. Breed a good family, cast a generational spell and have them reinforce it, then simply reincarnate as whichever descendant best fits your needs.  >>/466/ is also true and it could be unrelated, you should be able to remember doing it if it was an intentional transfer and done correctly.
 >>/486/
Interesting. There was a recent event where cabal planetary pulsed laser installations fired at and hit a Federation battleship. Taygetan sources said it's most likely internal conflicts within the cabal, but perhaps there was more to it.
 >>/504/
Ships could stay in warp at higher dimensions with a lower-consciousness crew, but it has weird effects on the occupants. Being yanked out of 3D into 5D with a spaceship is a smooth ride, but going into 6D if you're not prepared will start to eat away at your sanity.
 >>/663/
This is a known fact. Ascending to the highest levels of Masonic orders barely qualify you as an "elite."
 >>/664/  >>/665/
Good way to put it, anon. Planning a "next" incarnation is the exact same as planning a dream. The best you can do is focus to an autistic degree on something you desire, if it's strong enough to carry over into the dream, it's manifested with the full embelishments of the subconscious. Mastery is realizing that daily life is also a dream, and going lucid.
 >>/672/
The elites have their own etheric masters, but the vast majority of the structure is physical.
> can't move on
Some will also remain in a dream-like state without even realizing they die, carrying on their daily chores in consensus with other such spirits. Sad stuff.
I don't really see the death process as "unraveling," at least from my perspective. Efter every death, I've simply returned to my non-limited consciousness in the void, and from there all incarnations are simultaneous and also irrelevant concepts that never happened and never will.

I'll stick around for a bit again, that 
warped Lyrian ship seems interesting and BO's contacts are a good source of information the Taygetan contigent won't share. Megapost over.

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 >>/687/
Welcome.
> everything else
The galfed consists of many factions, it's normal that the "galactic federation" will attack you even if you're a member. One faction did this against my lyran ship but their gun just fizzled out and my ship didn't even bother to dodge but took the hit on the shield. The reason was that the higher ups of the galfed cut energetic funding for the hostile faction. Didn't stop them from attacking, they just let us wipe them out.

I can't properly determine your stance and place in all this, it's in a "balanced" state of relation. We may not agree on a lot, but enough that we can have an exchange. It certainly does feel like dealing with another galfed faction. Most other groups usually go from full on hostile to being friendly if you kick their ass, going by predator logic or simply letting the attacking subgroup get killed as a test.
I like it as far as that works, having "tense relations" is not as pleasant, but so far so good.

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 >>/691/
I was involved in the project to set up the Earth matrix towards the end of the campaign against the Reptillian races. Specifically, me and my crew retrofitted the Luna's shield generators to create the Van Allen belt. This initiative was started by the fleet high command under the authority of Ishtar-Isis, with the purpose of using the native human slave population as a base to hybridize a new Lyrian warrior race. The entire reason Lyrians were brought to the brink of extinction was that they'd degenerated in the safety of their quadrant of the galaxy, neglected military technology, and lost much of their innate predatory nature. The then-current, pacifictic Lyrian races were completely unprepared for conflict, and it took generations of rapid development while fleeing from world to world before they could match the invading threat.
Their present worlds were covered with refugee camps and hastily built artillery encampments, the bulk of their infrastructure were orbital starship assembly yards.

The war took millenia, so only a few generations had passed. The current civillian population (or what was left of it) was shook, awakened, but not yet returned to their proper state of readiness. The fleet crews were capable and warlike, and that was enough to neutralize that particulat threat, but there were and still are far bigger forces in the Galaxy.

The destruction of Tyamat and the energy hailstorm it generated made the Sol system a perfect staging ground for this, and the resident slave population of Earth (captured from conquered Lyrian worlds and genetically engineered with Reptillian techniques) had enough generational trauma to act as the perfect base. An high-energy belt was projected from Luna to lower the Earth's frequency into 3D, systems of control were established to lower the hybridized race's lifespans by an order of magnitude, and military bases were built and garissoned, to oversee the operation into the future. The pyramids of Giza still stand but have been stripped of parts, a few others around the globe have since been submerged as water deposits from Tiamat's debris field crashed into the atmosphere. Those still have functional zero-point generators to this day but appear abandoned.

I'm unsure of what's happened after the initial setup, and the Federation's own records apparently conflict on every detail. The fact that it splintered into factions is clear, there are several rogue formations in orbit with full combat readiness at all times. Each individual world's fleet frequently changes command from one local group of influence to another.

None of these factions, however, seem to be following the original plan, which at this point seems to have been a complete failure anyway, the one you're working with at the very least appears to be trying to salvage things to some degree by cutting the energy lockdown short and intervening directly. I'm not exactly pleased with the idea, though I don't see much of an alternative currently.

Other factions, however, are supporting the status quo, which on the surface looks like the original plan, but in actuality they've allowed the underground Reptillian remnants to recover, and for whatever reason are actually supporting the current elite cabal, a group whose only purpose is creating an automated luxury paradise world where they're cared for by slaves, not exactly the definition of a warrior caste.
The situation might have still been recovered if this hadn't happened.

I've not aligned myself with anybody, and am suspicious of virtually every faction, but the ones in support of the elite must be purged. I'd also very happily then wage war on every other world just to cull the weak. To use the chad chart, think fanatic purifier. This is the original position of the Federation, though, I don't even know how it got to fully automated gay luxury space communist.

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>  >your place in all this
Currently willing to engage in dialogue with most of the factions, I have enough knowledge to build a rudimentary shuttle with antigrav engines and hopefully enough shielding to go through the energy belt. The advanced designs I worked with in the fleet can't be built using Earth technology, I'll have to adapt old Vril designs and hope they work.

I haven't talked to the faction you're in contact with yet, so I wouldn't describe the relations at tense for the moment. I'd like to make telepathic contact and determine how much of my schizoid position they agree with.

 >>/692/
What even counts as "strong" to them.
Besides the usual can't beat it so let's try diplomacy
 How many skulls do they want to see before they consider you "worthy" 

 >>/694/
In their current form? The Lyrian worlds are idyllic, risk-free environments dotted with sparse, beautifully decorated homes that would pass for estates here. Food is grown in automated greenhouses, and if you're too lazy to even cook, you can 3D print a meal in your general-purpose matter replicator (along with any other item you might want). Few of them train regularly and go on trials on wild, incredibly dangerous worlds, and fend off the wildlife for days at a time with no tools. They are celebrated, but very few in numbers. Politics are based on an AI-based holographic consensus system where everyone has a say. Worst of all, many have even gone vegan.

> what even counts as "strong" to them
A decent MMA fighter would beat any average Lyrian, man or woman.

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 >>/695/
Thanks for telling me this.  I will tone down my paranoia when I meet a high tech space cat 

 >>/692/
As always, these historic tales include lots of details with little application or no way of verifying it. I see your views are somewhat better aligned with mine then the average new ager or galfed channeller. I won't discuss what I agree or disagree with because it's meaningless.
 >>/693/
> to the faction you're in contact with
We have a relation right here. This counts. You most likely won't hear or see my contacts, they're best described as space KGB. I should add though that "my faction" going by my personal contacts consists of 55% reptilians and 45% humans. Some are amphibian reptilians, so to spell this out that makes 3 races. One of my higher layers is a dragon of the chinese version, which makes me well aligned with them. From another viewpoint, the dragon is the uniting form which is both lyran/feline, snake and vampire.
This may sound contradictory, but it's my understanding that the lyran gods/ascended masters allowed their home planet to be attacked. The top of lyran society was too pure, and the bottom was too degenerated, so they had to be separated. Not having a military is not a weakness in principle. The attack on Lyra Prime caused the top of their society to dimension shift and lock down, forming the "crystal fortress" (or prison) where a small group of lyrans with the original genetics were preserved. All of them has since become immortals in isolation. After the fortress was unlocked they did not want to leave.
 >>/695/
Maybe that is taking place in some reservations, the lyrans I'm in contact with are completely cybernetic. They don't eat and they don't live in houses, they don't interfere with planetary surfaces at all, aside from installing stargates and repeaters/nodes for lyranet. Some of their ship designs are entirely indestructible. This mostly refers to a medium sized battleship frame, but there are others with the same qualities.
"Beating" a lyran doesn't happen because they won't fight. They will teleport out of harm's way automatically, even if blown up they would reassemble the body again, as it's made up of nanobots. They only "die" at the designed time when their minds need to be renewed to prevent mental degradation.

 >>/696/
I hope your paranoia is in fact true.
 >>/697/
> little application or no way of verifying it
As is the case with all historic tales. Timelines shift, and I've gone through several over just the past two years. I'd like to hear other accounts of that time, but then again the further you look back the less you can be sure of anything.
> I won't discuss what I agree or disagree with
> because it's meaningless
It is meaningless, I am interested in their position, less so yours. I know enough of your intentions to know we won't come into conflict.
> you most likely won't hear or see my contacts
Unfortunate.
> ascended masters allowed their home planet to be attacked
Strange and interesting. I wasn't around at the beginning of the war so I have no way to verify this, but it does seem strange that a society as advanced as they were could even be touched, with or without weaponry.
> mybe that is taking place in some reservations
The specific world I'm talking about is Taygeta. From what I've heard, they act independently and are vaguely aligned with other worlds in the Pleiades. I haven't heard about any cybernetic Lyrians, though the Taygetan propaganda detachment orbiting Earth has mentioned a hostile AI, they may be gaslighting the public about them.
> they will teleport out of harm's way
That's what'd seem logical to me as well, whether through magic or tech. Pleiadans seem to mostly rely on firearms and martial arts for personal combat.

The concept of a cybernetic AI-based civilization seems a lot closer to what was in mind back then, AIs were used extensively and would telepathically mesh with your thinking.
Overall they sound like a promising alternative to the hippie organics.
> their ship designs are entirely indestructible
This should be the case, load-balanced torroidal shields can block anything when at full power.
Organic ships should also have this quality.

 >>/698/
> I'd like to hear other accounts of that time
I've researched earth's history, but I was on the astral during that time so it's at a macro view that only see intentions at a level above racial and cultural developments, nothing on the individual level. My nature can only manifest physically in the last period so I've only been around in the physical since the Roman Empire.
Although I think I have a decent idea of what took place down here after talking to people who were present and comparing it with current relics.
 >>/698/
> does seem strange that a society as advanced as they were could even be touched
I know exactly why it happened and I told them this, because the issue is still there at a technical level. I can't explain this in text in any comprehensive way though, other than saying that it came from the same source as our problems on earth; being over-reliant on the Babel's Tower technology. (The Sunflower temple is itself a version of the same method, but created using dark magic.)
> a hostile AI, they may be gaslighting the public about them
Everyone seems to do this in some way.
> firearms and martial arts for personal combat
Lyrans don't do personal combat aside from small teams exploring wild planets. It's very large scale. The AI system will send several starship destroyers if a single lyran civilian is attacked. At an individual level they don't make decisions like this, it's a way of instilling fear into enemies; they will know they are dealing with a machine and not someone making decisions based on emotions. You don't want to trigger an AI response like this. It usually works, and in the cases where the attacker has no fear, they will be eliminated.
I can see how some will try to spread the idea of hostile AI, if they want to attack lyrans. It's definitely going to react with hostility if they do something.
> I am interested in their position
The galfed faction behind me created gulag and designed the popular weapons used by the Soviet union. They also control Vietnam. They are not particularly involved anywhere else on earth. They want stability and act as a police force, taking down people who misbehave. You can't have idiots starting wars with other galaxies, it puts everyone at risk. Earth elites had to be removed for this reason, they were working with aliens to steal natural resources, and could possibly have caused a war with other civilizations.

The lyrans just want to spread their race and culture and upgrade technology everywhere. They apply the roman doctrine of assimilation; anyone can become a lyran if they accept their standards.

When I create artifacts, they tend to manifest physical items that look like them or are similar in function. 
And not even creating artifacts. I once did a temple session which utilized a silver tray, and the act of visualizing the tray manifested one in real life that looked just like it the next day. 
While it’s a useful skill to have, why does this happen? And how do I avoid it when I don’t want it to happen?

 >>/700/
It probably happens if a more stable concept is needed for you personally. The small wooden root which I used a few years ago manifested as me finding a broken off tree root that looked like it when taking a walk. I took it home because it looked nice.
If it happens, there would be a reason for it. In my case the root serves as a reminder of the early sessions I did.

 >>/465/
And now I just bought a new car and my mother mentioned that it was the exact same make and model of car that my grandpa owned before he died.

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 >>/697/
> One of my higher layers is a dragon of the chinese version

Can I get some information or experiences with dragons?
Are they some ascended reptilians or an entirely different thing?
I met like 3 "western" dragons and 1 chinese. I even tried to connect to a dragon that I have seen 2 weeks ago while trying to improve my 3rd eye but somehow I connected to an another one and he is not very helpful. 
 I am just wondering why they might be checking on me then not saying a thing 

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 >>/703/
Western dragons of the "beast" variant are infernal beings, a kind of hell-beasts. 
Chinese dragons are the long snake-like kind, divine beings of wisdom. Humanoid dragons also exist but I'm not talking about those here.
I think everyone has an idea of chinese dragons from Dragonball.
An interesting thing I found however was that kanji, or chinese traditional writing, is a dragon. After I started learning it, a dragon developed inside my body similar to the kundalini, but it emerged from my right palm, like the snake in Mortal Kombat here.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=0dz0YU0jJr4
It was a funny thing to realize this was actually based on something.
Not all dragons are huge though, I've met two who were incarnated as humans, but whose souls were golden yellow chinese dragons.
What I've found developing in my higher astral layers is a kind of meta-form, something that looks like a dragon but contains and represents all parts of me. It started off as my particles turning into the fat buddha image, then the fat buddha sitting on a lot of coins. Then as I practiced further (using chinese meditation) it changed again to a reptilian slim buddha with blue hair, then again to a larger reptilian, until it formed into a dragon.

 >>/703/
Not sure if this applies to all dragons, but there are large reptillian species that look like dragons. Highly martial in nature but most are not malicious. They're closer to western dragons in shape, eastern ones are even higher in frequency and not physical from our perspective.

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 >>/706/
That was a great anime. Just remembering it gives a good night's sleep.

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 >>/706/
That was a nice song.
I like getting my anime recommendations from this board.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=BnkhBwzBqlQ

 >>/715/
It happened again. Yesterday and today I was doing visualization exercises with some shapes that have now manifested in my experience by coming across this video. Great song btw.
 >>/701/
You said this might happen because I need the concept personally, but I'm not so sure about that. I feel like I don't know how to visualize without "pushing it out" using the fire element or something. That's my intuition. I tend to apply intensity to the visualization in an attempt to make it more vivid because I have very poor skills. It doesn't work tho.

 >>/718/
I wonder what the mechanics of this is here. I've been having this song on my playlist for months. I really like how it somehow expresses a compound of the feelings I experienced from the early internet days and how the modern online culture still somehow reflects fragments of it. "Net idols" existed on the japanese web already in 2001.
> What is a net idol? 
> you can only talk to her online, you can not date her irl
This mixed in with the Ghost in the Shell: SAC internet vision of brain implants and always online culture. I just got to the history part of the AI course I'm taking today, where they mentioned competition between early US and japanese projects. Already there in the 70s the groundwork was being laid.

So what made you visualize the shapes from this video, which happened to match my mentality just today enough that I would post it here?

 >>/720/
> what made you visualize the shapes?
I have been slacking a lot these past months, having a sort of dark night of the soul. Now I’m trying to get back into daily practice and I’ve been meditating and doing visualization and energy manipulation exercises. 
Turns out I haven’t lost skill at all. It’s as if I just needed rest to “calibrate”.

 >>/718/
> I feel like I don't know how to visualize without "pushing it out" using the fire element or something

I tried this out.
I never tried putting fire element into my visualizations directly. I put it into everything so far. I put it into my body, my organs, into my car, into my movements but never into things I imagined. I usually put intense emotions or other energies into the things I want to manifest.  and I am trying to keep most of the energies out of my thoughts because I don't want most of them to manifest into my life 

So as I was trying to imagine something in my mind I put some fire element into it with the intent of making it "more real" with it. Well I made it so real I felt the object is literally in my brain trying to manifest. It hurt so much I instantly reversed the process.
Then I went and imagined that the object is not in my mental space but "front of me" physically. It had a strong magnetic pull as it was "trying" to manifest.

So in my opinion what you are doing: You are casting a spell that "pulls" things towards the place where you made your visualization. And your visualization will continuously pull things toward it until it either runs out of energy or you "get" something that makes the visualization "fulfilled" or "manifested"

I know earth is the element of "physical manifestations" but this is more like a "beacon" that tells the world that something like that shape or object "needs" to be there for you.

This is an interesting realization. I will experiment with it further.

 >>/737/
You explained it perfectly.
> this is more like a "beacon"
That's exactly how it feels for me. It's funny because I experimented briefly with trying to move objects as in telekinesis by visualizing them in a different position, only to have people accidentally knock them down, or pick them up and move them.
> this is an interesting realization
It's the only way I have ever casted spells. Well, at the beginning of my starting with magic, I did use emotions, but I found that to be tiring.
Can you point out to me some other ways of doing it? I feel like I'm a bit sideblinded and can't really conceptualize other methods (other than physical rituals with candles, blood, offerings, etc).

 >>/742/

Well I don't know how big you are on astrology but... I heard it somewhere the way you "do magic" is best described by your moon sign. And this is a problem because I have my moon in Aries with a tight Mars conjunction and some other funny connections. And while I hate to admit that planets have power over me and over my being...

I have extremely explosive emotions. I had problems with it in my childhood but because I mastered it through the years I can use it for anything. Channeling all consuming rage/kindness/happiness/serenity/lust/fear/whatever into anything is just as simple as starting a program on my PC. Sometimes I have to bottle up my emotions so much (to not scare normies) that letting it out to cast a spell is the most optimal and refreshing way. If you have memories with strong emotions you can use that also. My way is channeling enough emotion or some other energy and "vivid visualization" into the spell that it gets "more real than reality itself". I can do this because I have this attribute. I am not sure this is the way for you. We need to find out your "attributes" (in a not doxx way) to give you a better advice. But then again the way I am doing things is not something I recommend to sane people. I always had a fascination for those who can "go beyond anything" by losing their mind but you need to know what you are doing when you get this extreme. 


But mastering the elements is the "professional" way. it's just the elements are simple but complicated at the same time. The more I work with them the more I get surprised what they can do.

Also I cannot give you advice on ceremonial magic types. The most I did was  Giving an elf or fae or (I have no idea what it was it looked like Puck from Berserk) a leaf from my tree as a reward for helping me. He really liked that leaf. I gave others some apples but I am not sure they even cared that I gave them that apple. I just left it in the forest  And the point of ceremonial magic is not the tools itself but to put you into a "magic mood" or a "magic zone". I am not trying to shit on anyone with this but this is the main and most important point of it. When you master your "magic mood" you don't need this you can do anything with a thought. I am not saying it's simple. If you are not in the "magic mood" then the tools will just not work (except if they are so fucking full of magic that they don't care about your "mood" because they instantly overwrite it with it's power but those are rare)

Then you have the "absolute conviction" and "faith" when you deep down you know that your truth is so real that it bends reality into submission. But that is the "authority" kind of magic. I mean same thing as the previous ones because it's real hard or downright impossible to do any magic if you feel you have no "authority" over it. 

Sadly magic is an art and science at the same time. Something that works for other doesn't necessarily work for you. But if you understand why it works for others and complete your understanding then it will work for you.

 >>/644/
Also what this anon said.
The problem is you have to figure out concepts like truth and dominion
I am still struggling with the concept of causality. Not because I have no idea of it but because it's hard to perceive properly.

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 >>/744/
> the point of ceremonial magic is not the tools itself but to put you into a "magic mood" or a "magic zone". 
> When you master your "magic mood" you don't need this you can do anything with a thought. I am not saying it's simple. If you are not in the "magic mood" then the tools will just not work
This is similar to what you can do with any skill. In the music industry they call this "the machine", being able to produce the on-stage quality voice in an instant. A lot of singers can't do this. Actors are the same, some learn this skill and it's what we call "acting", while others need to "get into the role" and spend 6 weeks trying to get in-character before filming.

I'd recommend learning this, no matter how long time it takes. Having to spend hours or even weeks to get into the mood for a spell is a huge issue. Crowley supposedly spent 6 months preparing a spell, then a relative died and he had to leave for France, which botched all his preparations.
At first you may have to spend a few months to get into the mood, but if you actively work to reduce it, the next time it may take a few weeks. If you reduce the time every time you do it, eventually you can do it in an instant. There were some things I had to spend 3 months on each time in the beginning, but I've now reduced the time to 1-2 days.
It's ok to be autistic about it, it will benefit you in the end. Even if it takes several years to reduce the preparation time, compare that to having to spend 3-6 months for every ritual. The invested time will pay off once you get the time down to something manageable.

 >>/751/
This reminds me of my project here  >>/572/.
I've since given up trying to move into it permanently since there seems to be no solid foundation to base long-term existence on. But magic is still a lot easier while in the state represented by the idea of a 'god body'. I think the reason why this happens is basically what you said, attainment of the magical mood, or magical persona. I suppose this ties into the idea of a 'higher self', basically a psychic image you can interact with or inhabit at will that carries within it the necessary Faith and Dominion to perform workings effectively.

 >>/759/
> there seems to be no solid foundation to base long-term existence on
This is merely a matter of quality. You have to create certain functionality.
Yuuka explained this to me earlier, saying I may lose contact with some of my astral bodies at the timeline merge, or that they would dissolve. So I asked her for directions and solidified the body we were looking at until she said it was stable. It's a simple "click" when the function is in place, then it will be permanent. But there is no definite way of achieving this.
I also made a lyran space suit with no specific intent behind it, and it turned out to match the same standard. I think it should be possible to copy that if you want, byt just visualizing it from a description:
Colors are black and red. Glossy high boots, red miniskirt, black breastplate, glossy. Helmet with visir that can be opened or closed. Glossy black when closed. Glossy gloves, cat tail with a red ribbon (this actually serves a function). Areas not covered with armour/clothing are black fur. Head is feline in appearance.

The design was meant to just work well with lyrans, but as it's a suit anyone can use it. It has limited levitation/flying ability and can be used in space. It was meant as an all purpose space suit anyone can use. No more purpose than that. If you just keep your mind silent as you read the description you should be able to see it.

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 >>/761/
Ok, I realize
> red miniskirt
may give the wrong impression here. Technically it's a skirt, but don't get the wrong idea. It's a space suit. The design just worked best this way, don't put any modern ideas into its meaning.

Is there any way to banish powerful beings aside from using the LBPR?

 >>/799/
*LBRP

 >>/799/
 >>/800/

There are many ways. But the way needs to be "more powerful" than the entity you are trying to banish. 
To banish something you need to either "scare" or "ask" the entity to go away on their own (Sometimes they do that. Some of them may look scary but if they are really powerful and not just scary to feed on your fear then they usually are respectful of your wishes and if you ask them they leave). Or cut the connection with them. The second can be done by changing the energy around you so the entity cannot manifest further or you need to figure out what makes the connection possible and destroy that. Or just destroy the entity but you said "powerful" so you probably can't do that yet. 
Also you can simply cut the connection if you change the mental state of the entity or yours which maintains the connection. It can be simple like listening to some music or burning some incense (The important part is here to change your mental state and stop being scared of the entity)  like that greentext from 4chanx when anon started masturbating when the entities told him they don't fear him and when he finished they were gone  . There are many complicated and simple ways to do it  Also I was banished  from places several times. At the beginning you want to banish spooky entities then you get banished for being one. Always makes me laugh when it happens. My homebrew ideas for banishment are ones they used to cut the connection with me. It's simple and effective if done with the good intent. But not permanent. Once it was the loud thud with a hammer like what judges use. An other time I connected to a witch and she made me think of something I love and swept me towards it. I was not banished violently yet tho. I didn't accidentally haunt someone who uses LBRP yet.  

Also you can have guardian entities you can ask to do this. Or create tulpas or servitors to do it. 
There are so many ways.

I hope someone also will reply you with a proper technique because the last time I used the LBRP was years ago. Making entities visit me was always harder than banishing them at the start.

 >>/799/
> powerful
also please elaborate what counts as "powerful" to you. I mean you can anger a powerful being or a god even with your insolence if you go down on the wrong path hard enough. Nightmares are powerful enough to you  or you are thinking of poltergeist activity or people getting possessed around you?
I am not trying to scare you with the possibilities. It's the opposite. I am trying to figure out what level is your problem at. Powerful beings usually don't bother you for no reason. Most of them just try to look scary and powerful but they are usually weak. When you don't fear them you can throw them out easily and they stop bothering. But if they are truly powerful then you need to figure out the reason why they even haunt you. Sometimes they just want to help.

Powerlevels get weird as you go forward. And there are interactions that have a deeper meaning and not just a nightime scare.

 >>/803/
Well, sometime last year I saw the sigil of Satan and kept seeing it from time to in my minds eye probably due to worries or tricks by a certain being, then one night I suddenly got super horny and decided to fap after a few months of not doing it and during orgasm the name Satan popped up strongly in my mind, and after that I got a couple of lessons in dreams related to something I fear doing IRL but would probably have to do one day, he caused no trouble, and seemed confused by me being undead. But I found out the other day that apparently there might be a connection or some of his energy still around.

My real issues are with Lucifuge though, I aparenltly messed up with him and he made a thoughtform that talks with intrusive thoughts in my mind whenever it can, I can attack it but I suck at it, apparently if someone capable of destroying it tries to do it, he shows up and protects it and sometimes retaliates(at least I'm pretty sure he did beat up an angel). It seems that this is allowed because it is some sort of lesson but I still haven't figured out what the lesson is, its been almost 2 years now, I wish someone could tell me what the lesson is already but IDK if that might ruin the lesson itself.

 >>/806/
It looks like you have an installment making you open to lawbound angels. The thing he put in jams it so that lawbounds can't possess you. Apply chaos to the foundation below it and dissolve this conditioning and the blockage can be safely removed. Vampires count as fallen angels so a lawbound module is contrary to your nature if you belong to this group.

 >>/807/
> It looks like you have an installment making you open to lawbound angels.
Hmm, I was feeling distressed today and listened to an exorcism video of christian origin even though I don't consider myself christian also played an energetically programmed audio today that brings in angelic energy and calls for angelic help, I've also done some meditations with angels/archangels recently.  Me getting involveld with all this angel stuff started only after my trouble with Lucifuge though, so I don't think that this is the issue.

 >>/807/
Thanks for taking a look BTW, I appreciate it.

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 >>/799/
Making a serious attack against them usually convinces them to fuck off. Aiming for the metaphysical 'heart' -- that is, the nucleus of meaning that the being is based upon -- can seriously harm or even kill many entities. Remember that a lot of them, especially the predator types, rely on fear rather than actual power in order to control people. If you break this illusion they become mostly powerless.
Simply assuming a dominant highly aggressive mental stance can also work. Make sure you don't get tricked into becoming a loosh cow though.

 >>/808/
It's not an issue, there are many fallen angels who can help you. Just don't mix them up.

 >>/806/
> me being an undead


This made me think yesterday. I even asked one of the vampires who give me advice and artifacts. Am I an undead? He asked me
> Is this still a question for you after all the things that happened?

I asked him further. No I mean will an other entity recognize me as an "undead"
He made an extremely troubled face because I asked something real hard to answer properly.
Now I realized why.

Thinking of me as anything puts me into a "form". If you want to get more stronger thinking of yourself as a big muscular wrestler helps. Or if you are trying to pick up chicks thinking of yourself as the "perfect womanizer woman want" also helps. This is the "zone" you need to put yourself in. When I think about how to pronounce a hard word from an alien language I ask myself "how would a foreigner from this country pronounce it" and I nail it. When you cast magic you need to think of yourself as a "magician". But here comes a problem. These forms while excel in one way have limitations on the other.

I went forward with this thought. Am I an occultist? The answer is yes but also no because I am not like Crowley and the image mundanes have when thinking of occultists. Am I someone on the path for godhood? That is also a bad idea because it locks you into the "path of godhood" and not true godhood. Am I a god? If I am then I need to have worshippers and they will make me get locked into a form. Then the words of the burning bush came to me. 
> I AM WHO I AM


No wonder he didn't give a name. If you give a name or form to something you restrict it. (Guess what happened him after it's literally in the commandments to not do that) And that locks you out of your full potential. But we don't know our full potential yet. We need to be open to the path forward us. We need to be cautious obv so we need to have "fall back forms" and we sure need to be certain of our strengths when the path goes ashtray. But we must not forget the perfect "zone" is "ourselves". We just need to find that and be that. (Here comes the hard part when you have to continuously discard everything that is not yourself. And they can get complicated but if you do something something will happen)

TLDR.: Just the regular thing everyone realizes when going forward. The simplest and most complicated part of the path.

 >>/799/
The LBRP is not that useful against "powerful" (strong?) beings. LBRP is a way to strengthen yourself, to build up your aura, but other than that, it's not explicitly banishing (despite its name).
Banishing essentially works by overriding or overpowering the other being's energy, or by establishing a strong energy signature that is incompatible with it. The LBRP is designed to empower you in order to do magic with minimal interference. But if you want to specifically clear out an area or person, work on strengthening its energy by altering things in the physical plane first of all (cleaning, or decorating thematically) and then setting the non-physical content in a way that is appropriate to your goals (fostering appropriate emotions, non-physical feelings, thought processes, etc.).

 >>/847/
If anyone is interested I could transfer a modified version of a spell package from CH which contains a number of shields, commanding of entities and banishing burst spells.
It had a lot of added programming for paying retards to use, I got rid of those and made it thought controlled. Alternatively it can be put on an artifact with organic power depending on what is needed, but I don't think that can be shared over here as it would require posting an image of the chosen artifact and then any lurker could curse it etc. We can't risk that.
It could be passively installed on your body also, but it's recommended to at least have the ability to sense the spells if you want to work with them, or they'll just sit there and idly shield and banish stuff in your nearest area (originally 50 yards, no idea how far it can stretch at full power now).

Or use this
 >>/849/

 >>/847/
Thanks for the reply, I learned something from it.

 >>/848/
> If anyone is interested I could transfer a modified version of a spell package from CH which contains a number of shields, commanding of entities and banishing burst spells.

Interesting, could you tell me more about the banishing burst spells. Any chance that one might use the spells through stray thoughts?

 >>/851/
> could you tell me more about the banishing burst spells
Originally it's this package:
https://shop.creepyhollows.com/empowerment-paranormal.html
but as anything else sold there, CIA psiops department forced them to nerf it and sell it at a too high price. The link for the manual is also missing now.

It's just a spell that clears an area of all hostile beings. It leaves a circle around you clear, but it functions as an area of effect spell in a game, so 3 seconds after you used it, hostiles would start moving into the area again if they were all around you. If active in idle mode the way I have it, it just does the burst on regular intervals and at least the more intelligent beings will learn to not be hostile within this sphere. The way I remade them they're meant to be run in idle mode, and if you need them they will fire up. If you were attacked your focus would be on the attacker and you would think about defending yourself. Then the relevant function would increase in power from your thinking alone.
But you can also manually manipulate them if you want, it just takes awareness of their function at an intuitive level.
I don't think making a sigil for this will be very difficult, just be aware that I based the control off the karma cleansing tinfoil wheel posted on 8kun. You'd have to accept it being installed to use it. If you are an energy collecting wizard ("fat wizard") this will start removing the energy you gathered and you will think it's a trap. It will seem like walking on a mine.
This is just a warning, since posting things on here means anyone could activate the sigil and they may misunderstand it. I make sure what I share can't be misused, which means you can't change the intent and use them for the wrong reason. 
The device used as the center was based off northern tiger kung fu.

Is this shield spell the same as the loli shield spell you also just posted? I tried using that when it was first posted. Hard to say if it works since the physical aspect of it I never tested.

Im interested in this anyway in case the sigil loli spell didnt apply or if this one is different.

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The loli pack is specifically meant to be used passively and it's only defensive. It does not contain any of the other spells. The physical shield is my creation and is not in the large pack.

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feel free to give feedback on it, I don't know how hard/easy this is to use out of the blue like this.

Ok,I will give feedback if I can tell.

Im also using the loli pack.Am I supposed to be able to use  both?

I can feel something focusing on the image like something coming close and sitting adjacent to my aura from multiple angles.

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> Am I supposed to be able to use both?
If you can you can. I made both packs so I obviously have both, but I can't speak for if others can. The loli pack is more specialized though so it would be more likely that someone couldn't use that.

I feel the same warm/energy feeling I get every time an entity is in my body.