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So after almost 6 months since this fic has been published/posted over here, I think that I should review or give my personal comments towards this piece of fiction.

Review of: The Mare in the Mountain (Bridgefag, April 2019)

So, in this fic, unlike the original Cadencebat fic in which she had to hide her entity and falling into corruption as something appealing to her, Cadence here is shown as a more "mystical" creature than usual.

The Revolution fic went to some confusing and extraordinary settings that were highly related to political movements/strategies that despite its proper context into this world, it needs a few tries and a little bit more of effort from the reader in order to see how it follows a cohesive logic and progression. 

However, The Mare in the Mountain doesn´t rely on real life elements except for justifying a plot device and a motif for moving the plot forward  >>/3856/ (hipster/anti/poor art that kind of points out the sense of art from society´s standards, even though the editing thread could be a reason to bring this topic on the table).

So by leaving reality aside, this fanfic is much more straight forward  than the Revolution fic and it introduces (with more additions to her transformation) the Mare in the Mountain with a clearer idea of how she is than the original Cadencbat fic.

It´s as certainly confusing for the reader why she is called like that at first as as one gets to know that the actual Princess Cadence has earned a second life of fame. 

I am not going to say that this fanfic would work as complete canon because there are aspects from it that obviously prevent from having this dark direction. 

Nonetheless, the funny dialogue between the CMC before meeting Cadence, the fact that this story advances through a dream, the attempts at justifying its context (Luna could be the one manipulating the dream for Apple Bloom, the inspiration that Apple Bloom had that could have come from Cherilee´s lectures in the school), the recurrent drawings that become relevant in order to transmit a message through the story, etc; all of that could have perfectly fit for a standard story of MLP.

It´s indeed the closest effort from yours that actually makes you feel like this story could have taken place in its universe, the gen 4 reader will feel at home while reading it, so that´s a noteworthy improvement in the storytelling part.

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Backing up what I say about feeling like FiM, it´s that the fic offers room to breathe within its development and let lines like these:
> "Are ya sure ya can't tell me what this Mare on the Mountain is?" 
> "Mare in the Mountain, Apple Bloom," Sweetie Belle corrected.
> Apple Bloom rolled her eyes. 

I personally see where this is coming and I can tell that this actually criticizes the constant spelling mistakes written in this board. Not only the sense of comedy is there but the CMC really show their characteristic tropes until the climax, meaning that the author actually acknowledges their personalities even if the story is going through muddy waters that could feel off if it was shown so directly to the reader.

So for the most part, this fanfic will sound familiar to the average fan but where the questions will begin from the start and the climax (not to mention the strange actions from Scootaloo and SB while walking to the place where Cadence appears). The philosophical questions aimed at Apple Bloom, the grim imagery constantly present in her mind and how Cadence goes even further by twisting an intimidating technique: reading the minds of other creatures. She doesn´t only change to a more questionable side of actions, she doesn´t only become a guide for Apple Bloom but she also displays a really creepy yet powerful weapon that she could have exploited in the past:

> Cadence let a light hearted chuckle that contrasted with the fearsome atmosphere.
> "Of course I can. How else do you think I fix, manipulate and twist ponies love lifes?"

Mind f*yay*king blown by reading this. As much as she sounds certainly out of place with those questions, she proves that her true potential and lack of fears towards the wrong things actually drive her to take a step forward, like she knows way more than in theory she should have in the first place. 

The concept of her being a bat isn´t something that one would have explored al that much. This fic doesn´t jump right away to the center of her new feature like the original Cadencebat green did, but instead she receives almost a mystical presentation, wondering who she is and when one gets to her, there are far more questions than answers. There is always a haunting feeling that pays off with a mysterious climax (yet with dark imagery) and one could define it as mental edginess. Not a single moment of violence was brought onto the table yet those tense feelings manage to happen while reading this piece, like a horror movie that is slowly building up before murdering harshly the characters. 


Overall, out of all the fics that you could expose to any gen 4 fan, this one has the right context/introduction, the familiar feelings to an extent and the characters properly written. We haven´t seen the CMC interacting with Cadence at all so the lack of presentations between them could make this fic pretty plausible for its concept. 

The Revolution fic served for a cohesive yet an unfamiliar political piece, while The Mare in the Mountain has that, more lore and even dark implications to Cadence´s character. All of this by bringing original drawings by yourself and while they are not made to post on Derpibooru, one can get the imagery transmitted through those sentences. 

If I had to pick one fanfic from yours and expose it to the public (/mlp/, FimFiction...), this one most likely would get praised from its consumers. 

There you have it, you have written some proper original content that one fan would like to contribute to the fanbase. 

Congratulations.

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 >>/3874/
> this fic I am mostly pleased with. Partly as a finished product, partly as a stepping stone. 
out of all the stories that you have offered from the Bat Pony Cadence series, I feel that this piece stands for itself even though one would get really confused at how she managed to get there.

> When I decided to put Cadence in I didn't originally foresee how she's change the atmosphere. Her charisma and confidence are a more developed state than the first fic that's for sure.
indeed, she feels like really confident at what she does, she almost sounds creepy while asking those questions to Apple Bloom. All the mystery and imagery that surrounds her change the chill out atmosphere that is shown in the first part.

> There was a second version of this though that I may reuse later that would involved another character and a debate on several different things but it felt chunky compared to Bat Cadence's chrisma and fear, which had a straightforward dynamic that I think works better for this one.
I firmly believe that this dynamic works for what you could expose in these settings. If the concept of her being a bat isn´t twisted enough, imagine how things would turn out by exposing her even more.

> I specifically had envisioned that with what I could draw it look good for a possibly creepy dream child like dream story, with using normal images from derpibooru for the parts back in real life. Several sets of images where made but the one problem that I constantly faced was Cadence's lackluster appearance at times. Her slender body I couldn't manage, at least with the hardware I have now. 
I get that, especially with lack of pictures related to her. There are almost zero pictures that involve Cadence and the CMC and none of them show Cadence as a mentor for the CMC.

> I originally had it ready to post a fair bit eariler. Notice how most of the pictures are numbered till the end? I had taken the what I considered to be the best from all the image sets and numbered them in order of use for minimal confusion for posting,
eeeyup. I will admit that not all of them are clearly defined but one gets to imagine the settings while reading the text. They are simply meant to give a clear idea where this plot goes.

> I backed out because I decided I still didn't like the Cadences. The Cadence pic I used for most of the her appearances in some edited forms was actually a prototype asset that is from another ongoing project that I've been working on. She wasn't perfect but she fit hear perfectly and was better than the others you showed her true potential in the edit thread though 
Ironically enough, that´s the best picture one can get some inspiration despite not originally belonging here. Besides that one,  >>/3849/ and  >>/3855/ look as the better ones out of the bunch.

> So I just used that pic in various quick edits and figured it already went well with the mix of styles anyway. There is still plenty I think I could've done better but I think I still managed to achieve an atmosphere with them so I can't complain.
as long as those options offer solutions to your ideas, that´s fair enough. There is always room for improvement but as far as I am concerned, the writing style and the proper placement for its settings are what stand out to me the most for the experience and my views towards this product. The imagery will be or won´t be done better at some point in the future but if the words are properly matched and make sense, the rest becomes secondary.

> Bat Cadence is far from dead. 
hopefully you are right.




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 >>/4640/
I've been lurking this website for a good few years now. It's only when /pone/ (8ch) went offline that I decided to go be more active in other places. /mlp/ is basically a chaotic toxic wastebin, not to mention the spoilers, and /mlpol/ is nice but a lot of the time they seem more focused on politics than pastel horses (which makes sense, they're part pol). A lot of the other decent alternatives either seem like Ponychan ripoffs or are really good but extremely inactive. Coming here and staying for a little while seemed like a good decision.

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 >>/4640/
> Truth be told I'm not going to judge until I see it.
this

 >>/4650/
> I've been lurking this website for a good few years now. 
big plot twist here. Did you post on this imageboard around 2016 when 8chan migrated over here for a little while?

> /mlp/ is basically a chaotic toxic wastebin, not to mention the spoilers
this is why we are judging the episodes slowly and without rushing the thoughts about them. Even if someone brought the spoilers onto the table, I would need to experience completely for myself in order to make it justice.
 
> /mlpol/ is nice but a lot of the time they seem more focused on politics than pastel horses (which makes sense, they're part pol).
I am not saying that this board is a huge exception towards that. 
Let me explain this,/endpone/ has had periods of pure political topics through the generals (the show discussion ones are safe from that) and they weren´t really easy to deal with and analyze. The difference here is that politics should be a topic not only about spamming preprogammed propaganda but more like didactic material and use it as an exercise  to think and try to learn, watching closely what motifs behind drive that discussion (especially the context behind the events). 

This board has had a more laid back mentality because there are fewer users and as you say, /mlpol/ is more the proper target to do it. That doesn´t mean this board is free of it all the time from those topics even though we agreed to leave them aside (or at least, take a break) for a while after getting oversaturated of them during a certain month (September 2018).

> A lot of the other decent alternatives either seem like Ponychan ripoffs or are really good but extremely inactive.
well, /endpone/ has only had two/three users to keep it active. Don´t expect us to go at a rhythm of a Sonic Rainboom though (funnily enough, /endpone/ did indeed reach the first place of this site)  >>/3544/ 

> Coming here and staying for a little about this place.
Well, in the end that´s up to your own judgements about this place. I simply suggest not to expect any promises. 

Though it´s nice to hear those thoughts anyway.


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 >>/4650/
> Coming here and staying for a little while seemed like a good decision.

Though I know some of the threads probably seem a bit intimidating with the long sometimes bloggy conversations, but feel free to drop in! 

> A lot of the other decent alternatives either seem like Ponychan ripoffs or are really good but extremely inactive. 

(cough cough mlpg.co and poni.fun cough cough)

 >>/4668/
sounds about like I would've been if I hadn't run into the other two pillars  first and true BO and L23 

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 >>/4668/
Alright. Then you had posted in the initial era of 270 posts or so. The two/three main users came right at the end of December of 2017 so definitely I haven´t seen you in action. 

 >>/4673/
> some of the threads probably seem a bit intimidating with the long sometimes bloggy conversations
and those kinds of conversations don´t appear too often in the chan culture because oh boy, they go through let´s say ""sensible private"" content (I don´t know how to describe it in a general sense) that goes from direct blogs to original content and long discussions. 

> poni.fun 
wasn´t that site supposed to replace /mlp/ and offer a greater level of kindness/tolerance than them? It´s quite inactive and honestly, I´d rather stick to the "no promises from my part, don´t expect them" that I have always said. Otherwise, you lead to newfags to a huge diisappointment after a while. I´d rather say: it is what you see. Imitating /mlp/ can be done at any moment but offering the same product doesn´t seem to be a good business practice either.

> I would've been if I hadn't run into the other two pillars
thanks but honestly, I think that for me at least, I was supposed to shitpost simply my favorite pictures, get bored and leave after a while....

the results shown over here definitely weren´t what I was expecting from this place...



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I'm posting this so you guys won't create conspiracy theories. I know, my hope us futile.
If everything goes well soon the site's and our problems will be resolved. But they will turn the site read-only mode for a while. I have no information how long the process will take. Keep calm and be patient.

Thanks.
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> who are they for entering into my kingdom? 
> don´t they know how this board has fallen into chaos recently?
> if someone comes from the Discord side, they´d better tell it before it´s too late...

> because this is another place, a new universe...

HEH HEH HEH HEH 

PONIES THEY SAY...HOW ABOUT THE ENTIRETY OF EQUESTRIA UNDER MY REIGN?!

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 >>/4497/
The sleep has been unfortunately, rather mixed.

And though I could have a bone to pick.

My spirits have been strangely high.

Even with the drama in real life and in the fandom by and by.

This poem is a PoLS, not a goodbye.

Our thumbnail problem may not get fixed, but at least the site is still alive.

I'm tired, I will join in the slumber, maybe tomorrow I will create a wonder. 

 >>/4500/  
True chaos undefined. True evil that leaves you to die. True death of friendship and heart, as her evil even tares Discord apart. 

In a small board such as this.

I only have one wish.

Are we the victims and the pray?

Or are we horrors ourselves for our determination to stay?

 Maybe both 

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 >>/4504/
> he sleep has been unfortunately, rather mixed. 
that´s better than straight up bad, so there is that.

> This poem is a PoLS
nobody specified nor defined how PoLS should work...so anything can happen in these kind of posts. From basic ones to stylistic lines. 

> Our thumbnail problem may not get fixed
do you think so?

> I'm tired, I will join in the slumber, maybe tomorrow I will create a wonder. 
not as tired as you but I do have to do the same. I am trying to find more picture for this board and then, I will meet the Z universe.

> True evil that leaves you to die. True death of friendship and heart, as her evil even tares Discord apart.
philosophical rhymes about her arc, she uses chaos it way too out of hand.

> Are we the victims and the pray?
> Or are we horrors ourselves for our determination to stay? 
> Maybe both 

that´s quite tricky but I am answering you with a third option...



We have created the horrors and the victims for this undefined mess. 


As for who is who in this game, it becomes less relevant in comparison to this statement.



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 >>/4014/
> I thought the BO did. It seemed to be a reply to you wondering if the BO was the one who shitposted at  >>/798/
> See the lyrics? 
I see. Now that I think about it, he´s only one that has cared and spent a bit of time of his life dedicating a few posts and discussions over here. Nobody else would care that much in comparison.

> Not as much as me.
hold my beer...

 >>/4016/
> A fun one.
erm Twilight? Why are you so happy? It´s like you are reflecting a mix of...


oh, oh dear...

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 >>/4017/ 
> Nobody else would care that much in comparison.

True. Though it seems we have a handful of post that don't fit us three. Though the BO is mysterious in his ways, that doesn't seem like him.

> hold my beer...

Can I drink it?

>  Why are you so happy? It´s like you are reflecting a mix of...

Awesomeness. That is the word you put there.

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 >>/4027/
> Though the BO is mysterious in his ways, that doesn't seem like him.
yeah,oh well, unless someone guesses the IP, you wouldn´t have a clue 

> Can I drink it?
go ahead. I prefer wine and...the good cider

> Awesomeness.
then you are not Twilight. You are the mascot from Horse News.





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That is it? Was that seriously IT? That's the biggest disappointment I have ever seen in my life. What, you think I'm going to congratulate them for not spitting in my face like they did with Luna's episodes, Celestia's episode and Twilight as an alicorn?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=2I08cdi3NP4
> It was okay, meh 6/10.
> sociopathic shills: That 6/10 felt like a 11/10. Let's accept it as our new episode of the year. xD 

That was the biggest "tell don't show" I have ever seen since Dolores Umbridge's reformation. They didn't show jackshit.

I will never believe an ounce of information you selfish agenda-pushing morons say, every opinion you form is based on wrong things. A 4-7 year old is more objective and intelligent than you fags.
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 >>/4139/
Cool, we finally get to see Scootaloo's biological parents.   going from the synopsis, my bet they are going to offer to take Scootaloo with them. 

 >>/4141/ 
Oh boy, another implied lesbian relationship that will never be shown formally. I truly don't get this reaction when we already crossed this threshold with Lyra and Bon Bon.  I'll get the butter. 



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 >>/4142/
> I truly don't get this reaction when we already crossed this threshold with Lyra and Bon Bon.
they would show fear of having a lesbian couple because I guess that the Legend of Korra did it, so MLP could be the next on the list......and it happens. Lyrabon was like a petition from the fandom so it´s like it doesn´t count for the drama (?) and they summarized it the "Just friends" phrase.

> I'll get the butter. 
Here comes the sun do do do
I mean, the drama ----> >>/4145/

I had already seen that thread but I didn´t know that it would get reported so soon on /endpone/

 >>/4146/
> I think /endpone/ position is pic related.
no season/year is free of drama from this fanbase. It´s an unwritten tradition to overreact quickly over certain things. The latest fresh material gets the hate while other previous dramas (Changedlings for example and they have stayed pretty silent towards them as a way to show the dislike towards them) get overshadowed by this years´ happenings. 

Lastly, the shipping tag has over 150k pictures, a half of them (almost 75k) have the lesbian tag as well (pic related has received over 2100 upvotes by the way). I suppose that the seed planted has grown by now.

I don´t know what they were expecting....



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 >>/3904/
> I am feeling a bit of apathy these last two days. Yes, even if I should be hyped for season 9, I have no expectations for it and it has come as simply more content to speak rather than the main material to be circlejerking about for now. 

I had that feel during season 7 premiere actually, I just felt like I was going through the motions. It was busy around that time and it just felt like another stressful thing I had to keep track with, so I think I can get that. 

 >I will have to reinvent myself and recover the right attitude 
 >(maybe the efforts of trying to be original and interesting all the time have made their effects as well)  
 I'd say especially on the second, anon. You have talked before of your pressure on your posts, though not recently.  Remember, don't let it be a burden. Even if it means you fully can't reply or just shitpost. If there is any advice I can give is to simply not sweat it. Take a few days, just chill and get through the day to day and reevaluate from there how ya feel. Don't worry about posting, don't worry about being a negative or trying to force positivity. If ya don't feel like watching right away thats fine too 
 On top of that, don't think "the first thing I gotta do when I get back is review the fic and the show" that'll just make it a stress on your mind, you'll review it when ya feel like it and besides that was a prototype anyway. 
 Besides, with what I know about your schooling that is a pain itself. 

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 >>/3912/
> It was busy around that time and it just felt like another stressful thing I had to keep track with, so I think I can get that.
until you get to watch an opener like season 9´s one and you feel the magic all over again. Every prejudice is gone after giving the show another try.  

>I'd say especially on the second, anon. You have talked before of your pressure on your posts, though not recently. with what I know about your schooling that is a pain itself. 
yeah, you mentioned that I made an effort for the image editing thread and it´s true that I have wanted to express way more than I usually offer. I fear a little bit of getting too repetitive so I try to go a little bit further. I suppose that ambition has a price for what it´s worth. 
>Remember, don't let it be a burden. Even if it means you fully can't reply or just shitpost. If there is any advice I can give is to simply not sweat it. Take a few days, just chill and get through the day to day and reevaluate from there how ya feel.
[/spoiler] Yeah, I read these lines back on Sunday and I decided to take a break save for posting a few nice images on Tuesday I think. I have been active for these two days so the things stay a little bit fresh and alive. The stressful period of the lab sessions is gone. I will say I still don´t promise anything and that´s why it feels like I am box full of surprises. But I am fine, thanks for thinking about me. [/spoiler]

Don't worry about posting, don't worry about being a negative or trying to force positivity. If ya don't feel like watching right away thats fine too 
> that'll just make it a stress on your mind, you'll review it when ya feel like it and besides that was a prototype anyway.Besides, with what I know about your schooling that is a pain itself. 
I have watched it, twice in fact. My problem is not with the show, the show will stay, it has made its memories. That will never change. About your fic, I don´t know when I will make it justice but I will say that I had a good experience while reading it, the concept of Cadencebat is much more defined, it was a more plausible story for this franchise, much more straightforward and less chaotic than the revolution fic. There it is, taken with a general perspective. There are a few questions but for a prototype, it seems that the main sketches have already been made. Congratulations for defining her so clearly. If the review doesn´t come, at least, these words are posted for you to see.

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https://youtube.com/watch?v=1KOPFYPUL7o

Well, enough talking about myself today because I am not the only user that posts right here nor this is the thread to draw the attention to another target all the time, that should be directed at the show. 

Let´s give this to these pessimistic posts a spin with more energy,providing a momentum for what comes next!

LET´S SAIL FOR THE 9TH SEASON!

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> until you get to watch an opener like season 9´s one and you feel the magic all over again. Every prejudice is gone after giving the show another try.

For me that was Discord that really made it feel magical...

 > I have wanted to express way more than I usually offer. I fear a little bit of getting too repetitive so I try to go a little bit further. 
 Again, my only advise here is what I have already spoken. 
 > I will say I still don´t promise anything and that´s why it feels like I am box full of surprises. 
 And that is wise. Because if ya promise ya only have pressure to deliver and the pressure prevents you from being spontaneous with random things you may just want to do over the course of the day and random post for fun. 
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> Congratulations for defining her so clearly. If the review doesn´t come, at least, these words are posted for you to see.

You can say the review for whenever the core project arrives...




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I know it's not fair that I do this but sometimes I think good quality images are not going to be eternal. Someday we will arrive to Deviantart core quality and we all know what that means.

However,I can solve a little bit their colours. It's artificial yes but at least,those edits make it pleasant to the eye and serve to post something between the good ones. These two have like 10 upvotes or so and I am putting in the thumbnail which ones are edited.I can link them perfectly though.
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now, those people fearful of oceans because of sharks and big creatures in the depths. How wrong those plebs were, ponies were the sirens chants that make the environment dangerous from the very beginning.

> The others are more... intense and expressive I suppose. This one lack of brightness could be a little dull and dreary in comparison. 
exactly that. 

> It does! 
either it´s due to the filter or the oversaturation of a certain effect/adjustment.

> Would you like to go a descriptive rout and get one of the better edits and original pictures and place them side by side?
either showing the products alone or doing that method. I am basically compiling them and putting them in the front as a greatest hits from these edits. Not all of them work but simply a selection of what we have offered here. I thought about not including any description and then letting the viewer to ask why it happened before the info comes but a little description can come with them perfectly (or quoting the post of its explanation from this thread)

> Would you say there is any edit that clicks or feels just right to you that you just like to use in the OP solo? 
I am certainly torn about it. The one edit that I still hold in high regard is this one  >>/1822/ and it certainly represents how twisted and artificial the edits can get, to the point where you are in an artificial land that will lead us into chaos or imprecise imagery. 

That´s my first but any other can work so I am asking to you before I do anything (not to mention that it feels kind of selfish). I could also include any edit that speaks for itself and came from you like  >>/1868/,  >>/2496/,  >>/2649/ and  >>/3735/.

> I like Iceblue Crash. Which is what I randomly name the edit of that Rainbow Dash pic. It looks nicer as a OC though I wouldn't say there was too much wrong with the picture. Just average decent tier.
the picture by itself didn´t have anything wrong. It´s just that it was from the artist needed tag and I simply put edits as a way to spotlight them again. I treat them as public material that no one will come and say:"This is mine,faggot. Get that edit out of here" or answers of that kind. I could also edit Filly Funtasia without any problems simply because of that reason of feeling unrestricted to do whatever. 

So you like that picture of RD for the OP. If you see it valid for the OP, just tell me and I will put the colored edit on the front.

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> So you like that picture of RD for the OP. If you see it valid for the OP, just tell me and I will put the colored edit on the front.
Your call, I mean there is a lot if ya doing a greatest hits format that could work. Like:
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bluelestia/icelestia if you what something else with that theme that I consider of a higher level edit.

 >>/2481/ 
This one I loved and got a kick outta the trick you pulled.


 >>/2496/
If you want me to suggest one of mine, then this one.

 >>/1833/
This flutters too. These are your transformational/destructive art ones. 

 >>/3722/
This one could be good if ya wanna continue with the theme.

 >>/1822/
This too.

I mean there is a whole lot of options that I'd think would be fine. I'm just throwing  out a few suggestions.

 >>/3326/
 I'd suggest this from our bo but I'm not sure it'd count as a edit and I'm not sure how if he want even that much attention on himself. 



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> November 2018 
> Umbridge appears in this thread, becoming a banner of /endpone/ in 2019

> April 2020
> long Umbridge has become a meme in the fanbase

This thread is history of /endpone/. 

Put me in the screencap!



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Not Much Activity in /Endpone/

The first thread to get bump limit, the main general of /endpone/! 

Princess Amore managed to get us into the 4th place on Endchan edition.  >>/2150/

Tournevis, we summon you to check this board again if you are alive out there. 

Season 8 discussion thread:  >>/1060/
with the streaming sources besides Dailymotion: 

https://xxnightmaremoonxx.de/vweb/?page_id=79&page=9
https://yayponies.no/videos/episodes.php

Bat Pony General:  >>/125/, including Cadencebat fic by the Bridgefag (provisional name):  >>/1134/

Personal project by L23:  >>/656/ , including the Comforts of Darkness:  >>/1445/; Novo´s fic:  >>/1548/ and the celebration of the  >>/2000/ posts:  >>/2022/

Edit thread:  >>/678/ 

Princess Celestia general:  >>/1857/

Thread for greens, off topic and a few random ideas:  >>/400/

And of course, we cannot forget how the bridges have protected this board all this time with the help of Dolores Umbridge, first mascot of /endpone/. 

Previous thread:  >>/233/
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