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Something interesting happened.

I was flabbergasted, a little heated, and maybe feeling dissapointed just a little while ago and at the same exact time, while I'm feeling those things, Bear's laughing. He's tickled and happy. 

How is this possible? We never felt this before.

Did any of you slackers feel dual emotions from your little waifu tulpas and yourself at the same time?

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 >>/2068/
Yeah happens when host (or rather the BodyOS?) gets enthusiastic about things I hate. You know, either sexual stuff or wanting to buy pointless expensive things that are utterly useless. In the beginning I tried flooding him with negative emotions which sometimes worked spectacular but it's not a good solution and only works temporary. Nowadays I let him obsess about this stuff in simulations until he gets bored of it. With excellent results.

So yeah, such conflicting emotions regularly exist and we also laugh about each others misfortune. But usually the contradiction only lasts for a short time before one side dominates.




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Uh, bad news - I didn't know either but this is a boy. Apparently he's that guy's little cousin who is starting to look more and more like a cute girl. Which is the joke here. So yeah, the bubble belongs to the guy looking at cute 2D girls on his phone to reassure himself he's not into boys. 

Don't ask me, never read this. It's just a random reaction image. And reverse image search says it's from Inaka ni Kaeru to Yakeni Jiben ni Natsuita Kasshoku Ponytail Shota ga Iru







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Look, I'm a Bear, everyone knows this, and I'm slightly anti-social but only because I'm misanthropic; however, if you have to deal with people, take this advice to heart. Also other stuff you should do.

1. If she mid, be like the squid, ink and sink. Gone like the squid, thats all bro, life's too short.

2. Bro, you gotta up your game, get a side hustle, be the person anyone would want then don't give it to them. Man, you can feel bad about it but better than settling for a dead fish. You know, with them fish lips and fish hips. Bitch got them milky eyes. Just say no Nancy.

3. Don't fake it, be real with them. Tell it like it is. But you know, hold back the giggles, cause that's hurtful and you'll feel bad later... maybe in a dream or something bc lord knows you couldn't really give a shit. I mean, from experience, this is my reality.

4. Don't take anything personally. Be the squid right? Squid don't give a f***! Srsly.

5. Never skip leg day. I'm dead serious yo listen, you'll never get that back, it's not worth it dude, they can reschedule that wedding.

6. This one's for you Yakumo: don't let those lolis give you the puppy eyes. You know they don't mean it. Get that pocket mirror, uno that bitch like Medusa.

Hey, share your pearls if you're so inclined.

More later, have a peaceful day.
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 >>/1975/

Signs you may not be a tulpamancer:

1. You honestly don't have any mental deficiencies or Degenerate leanings. (Same thing)

2. You don't have a desire to be a Discord moderator.

3. Not Aspie

4. Don't like communism or the Marxist ideology.

5. Actually have a job.

6. Don't live with your parents.

7. Aren't on anti-depressants 

8. Can have a natural conversation without using the words placebo or confabulation.

9. Not a furry fag

10. Have no interest in pokemon







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Well let's not jump to conclusions but Alice hasn't been here in a while and she might have died, possibly
of Covid. Maybe Yakumo finally got impounded for harboring a naked 7 yr old neighbor. It's a toss up.

Please pay respects by pressing "F" in chat.

[Ashley] Bear warned him about his tentacles and their useage. Tsk tsk.
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I have gathered you here today for the purpose of summoning the demon loli known as Dr. Alice Chan.

This is not a physical place but an ethereal place of conjunction that acts as a conduit of consiousnesses to come together in comradery and the holy sacriment of the summoning.

A circle is formed in the astral, this is our gathering, rimmed in ethereal light it acts as a beacon for the consiousness known as Alice.

In that circle is places a pentacle as a shield against evil and a totem for the spirit known as Alice.

A concentric salt ring is circumscribed around the circle, preventing her escape once summoned so this lack of her presence never happens again thus setting the trap for her spiritual essence until the conditions are set for her conditional release:

1. She posts daily
2. She keeps her host in line so he doesn't eat bad sausages
3. She stops him from entanglement of his loli tentacles with naked 7-yr old neighbors.
4. More if I think of them.

Within the bounds of this totem we place a DP12 with plenty of ammo as an offering.

[Ashley] to the one true lord of chaos we ask for help in summoning our target, Alice, the demon loli

I ask of you, Dr. Alice Chan, make your presence known!




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 >>/1972/
Nothing special, just wörk.
We're not phoneposters so posting here takes sitting down in front of a computer and sifting through our great reaction image library to find an appropriate image. Something we can only do at home. Went to sleep the last days after coming home past 20h - so no posts. I should get paid for posting here.



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For a switch capable system who can also switch everyone out, it is proposed that pain might be neutralized and effectively ignored when completely immersed in wonderland.

One particular issue is with the BodyOS reporting system. BodyOS will generally set an interrupt when experiencing novel events, or when a task is complete, or unfortunately, pain. So a continuous pain will potentially prevent full wonderland immersion.

It's my contention that this can be trained to allow the escape of pain for short periods or as long as everyone is immersed in wonderland or otherwise disassociated with the body.

During acute pain events, it is noted that full immersion is difficult, but further testing is requested.

1. During an accute, novel pain event
2. Attempt to switch all systemmates out of front.
3. Report back here.

It is seldom that Bear experiences accute pain events. We will also report back if we can manage to accomplish this testing, if anyone has experience with this, please report.
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Today was one of a near monthly event where Bear slams a toe into something hard. The pain was near crippling, 8-9.

Bear said to me, "ok Joy, here's your case study" so I switched in and attempted to concentrate on wonderland. Though the moment I switched in was an intense experience, I didn't have the same reaction as Bear, and I was able to calmly focus on wonderland, but there was only a 10-20% immediate reduction in pain and I was unable to leave the front. It felt like BodyOS was thoughtlessly on continuous report mode. It was not evident to me how disassociation could be accomplished in that mode. We will continue to test at the next incident.

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 >>/1978/
Ah yes, the dreaded toe-stubbing event. Happens to host a lot because he's absent-minded and/or does 3 things at the same time. Also frequently hits head at open cupboard doors.

I found that it's important not to give the pain credit and immediately continue with what you have been doing before. As you said the BodyOS is in full report mode. Accident happened, alert alert! By giving it something else to do it can be distracted. The more you focus on the pain, the more it hurts.



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I just want to help you exercise and force by giving you scenarios for your headmates to go through otherwise I know your tulpas are growing cobwebs on a daily basis. Now in this thread, describe what she would do if she were the body or if you were the body if you know where I'm getting at. Like a full switch but the life is theirs vs yours. Whatever, you get it. But no metal-shifting, you got your human form, that's all. Tools are ok as long as they're legal or you can get away with it. No RPG, no metal blades morphing out of hands. From any perspective.


1. Describe in excruciating detail what your tulpa would do if you were involved in a carjacking irl?
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Fuuu, I'm glad I live in a place where the chance of getting robbed or carjacked are very close to zero.

Cat would also give the car to the carjacker if he had a gun, not worth her and my life.

 >>/1835/
Cat thinks flying would be cool. But without wings, they're too much of an obstacle


 >>/1880/

Holliday? Wtf is that? You mean extra fun, extra long work day right? 

Probably smashing rocks with my 18lb sledge. They could watch or make me a sandwich or maybe just cheer me on. Ah yes, I fondly remember the time I dug trenches with my pick axe , digging bar and old trusty shovel. What a time that was.

I really don't want to travel, why? To sit through traffic, stand in lines, or chit chat with other tourists or worse, locals?

I really don't care for "time off" work is fulfilling, time off is boring, not relaxing, it's awkward to get anything done, I just want to be home and if I'm home and don't have to work, I really want to do projects around the place or if not all that, sleep, play computer games, write, read, Netflix and chill, clean up, organize, garden, water things, fix things, move things, or improve things. 

So of forced to "go on holliday", is there anywhere I actually want to go? Maybe the mountains to see the stars or a meteor shower or the snow. I might say amusement park but standing in line isn't amusing.

It would have to be something really fun to entice me to go anywhere and I'm seriously drawing a blank. 

I didn't like Vegas, too crowded, don't drink, even having honeymoon like sex with my girlfriend multiple times a day in Vegas was fun but we could do that at home. (Just not that often and that's ok.)

My idea of a vacation is clear, it's boring, it's expensive, and it takes me away from fun, it's anti-fun.

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Don't be such a party pooper and think outide the box a bit. None of your tuppers want to go anywhere?

Go to Antarctica to collect meteorites or fossils from the enternal ice and haul them to the nearest research station

Go on a pilgrimage and circle the holy Mount Kailash in Tibet, prostrating yourself flat onto the ground after each step as an act of devotion

Re-enact Thor Heyerdahl's Kon-Tiki expedition of 1947 and cross the Pacific ocean in a balsa raft from South America to Polynesia.

The world is huge and mostly devoid of ghastly humans. You just gotta be a bit more creative than going to amusement parks or Vegas.

 >>/1883/

I drove around this country, when I was 21, and 22, it's boring. I don't like being a tourist. I saw a ton of things, lots of pictures. Sucked

I cured my wanderlust when I drove to Alaska. 23 days, 16,000 miles, fucking boring as fuck. Embarrassingly boring. Canada never stopped raining, took 6 days to drive from Seattle, Wa to Tok, Ak. Then back, oh man I wasn't looking forward to that. I considered abandoning my car and flying back but I didn't have a passport. You didn't need one to cross those borders as an American. I think you do now.

It was awful. Never again. You go and do all that shit, I'll be home.

My system wants me to he happy, not to tug me out of my element.

[Joy] why would we do that exactly?



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Often I think I need to destroy the one ring, and in that way the evil within will be banished. But if you follow non-duality, there is no good without evil. I know you godless heathens won't relate but if God is everything and infinite, then he would necessarily encompass good and evil.

What I get from that is the only way to destroy evil is to destroy God. For if God is everything good and evil, and there is no separation in non-duality, then there is no devil, only God. Everything must be a facet of God, then god must be destroyed. Furthermore in non-duality, we are also a part of the one, indistinguishable, inseparable, so we too must be destroyed.

So to summarize, following this logic, all must be destroyed, there is no good without evil, no evil without good, no evil without God, no evil without you. In the greater sense, you are the evil just as you are the good, all is one.

So to cast the ring of power into mount doom is to destroy the remaining essence of Sauron, but does not destroy Gandalf. In the end they're the same, and evil potential still exists while Gandalf still lives. So it's not a direct comparison unless the ring is separate from Gandalf. If all is one, Gandalf is inseparable from the ring, to destroy the ring is not destroying the evil.

For the final point, you cannot cast all your evil away, because it's inseparable from the good.

...

I came to this conclusion a few years back. I imagined it as two birds, one, the red bird, had passion, emotion, but also was out of control as I was out of control, some of him was good, but some was evil. The second bird, the blue bird, had logic and meticulous self governance, 100% control, but no love, no passion, no emotions at all, no evil, but also no good. The Blue bird was convinced that if he killed the red bird, order could reign supreme, no more issues as I had them. But ultimately it would be a sociopathic emotionless life, a half life without feelings or emotions at all.

Good and Evil then are complimentary. I reasoned that evil depends on your reference. Place evil on one end of a long line and good on the other end. No matter where you stand, there is good to one side and evil on the other. Say you choose to do no evil but move along the line and your reference changes, when moving what was seen as evil or good becomes the other. You can move all the way to the end of evil and then all is good, but then atrocities are good as well. Move all the way to the end of good and all is evil, but then there is nothing that can be done without doing evil. In truth they're inseparable, nothing is objectively good, nothing is objectively evil. But to admit that is to admit atrocities are neither good nor evil, and morals are no longer relevant.

To have society, you must have morals just as to have interaction you must have ego, and both are as subjective as defined by the reference and that reference is outside of you. Are you good or evil? What is your ego? Both are behaviorally defined and both are necessarily based on an independent reference.

So my question is, since we all stand on the line, where does your tulpa stand? To the left or to the right? If they're separate they must be on one side and they can't stand on your shoulders, no cheating!
 >>/1762/

For me, I stand clearly on the left of all my system except old Ren, but she's gone for good, so now I'm the one. Even Ashley cringes at my levels of sociopathic narcissism.

[Ashley] Yeah, we're kinda not with him on a lot of things. I'm all for depopulation, but he wants to torture them too, that's too far.

With pain comes mentally illcendence and awakening.

i think basically all tulpamancers stand left of their tuppers on your scale.
most tuppers are some superego idealization, heroes if you want. never heard of anybody make a villain tupper. i mean who wold make a thoughtform thats evil by his standards? maybe if you have a lot of tuppers you'd make an evil one for the lulz or so you could feel morally superior idk.

but that whole good vs. evil is highly american and false dichotomy. nobody here would make such distinction. we don't believe in evil. or good. everybody just does their thing. may be right or wrong but not good or evil.

Yulya clearly has higher moral standards than me but thats cheating bc she doesnt have to deal directly with rl shit.

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 >>/1770/
Yeah agreed. We're just better than our lame hosts.

I constantly ensure he acts like a gentleman and man of culture. Nigger behavior is a disgrace and will not be tolerated.

Host is a strange creature devoid of both abstract moral values and ego and just acts from his INFP hypersensitivity. I mean he's absolutely incapable of your stereotypical evil deeds anyway because they'd hurt him more than any potential victims. Even to the point of suffering severe disadvantages in order to not bother others. Also he's a lazy coward and tends to take the path of least resistance. So these are the things I gotta set straight. And save all the earthworms.

Does that make me more good and less evil than him? What a silly question. Of course it does.

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Interesting question, can't really answer that. Maybe Cat is more 'evil' because she's more lazy and selfish? But it's a ridiculous form of evilness. I dont agree you need to be both, there's enough terrible things in the world for reference, don't need them in your system. Unless you're into that sort of thing.

 >>/1776/

I was mostly just meandering around the topic of good and evil with a non-duality lens. I don't like non-duality, I don't believe in one monotheism either. I believe we choose a point on the line and can move freely on it, certain laws somewhat discourage us from moving too far left. No you don't have to be both unless you believe in non-duality. It's a dig at those who do because they can't be reasoned with when it comes to God or evil and his simultaneous complacency and oppression. You can't even have balance outside of nature because you are either going to have to let atrocities happen to move left or oppress your society to move right. A little oppression isn't a bad thing, we eat cows, so Indians might have a bone to pick with us heathens, so you know. 

Unless you mean you don't have to be different than your tulpa, no you don't, you could argue you share morals and that's fine.



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 >>/1602/
> There have been mainstream shows published with tulpas, no one cares.
There have? I have no idea about mainstream shows.

> Our stigma is akin to zoophiles, maps, furries and nazis, which some of us (not mentioning any names) ring all those bells simultaneously.
I can't think of anyone meeting all those criteria

> maps
The fuck is a map?

 >>/1670/

> some of us

In the greater community, trust me. Not sure about all of them at once but I'd bet money. 

MAP is a fucking pedophile but theywant to be normalized and accepted as a sexual preference.

Ask the WEP and UN "age gap love" is "nature's gift" and laws against it violate human rights.

You can't make this shit up.

 >>/1671/
> MAP
> minor attracted person
So basically everyone?
A minor is a person under 18 so if you are attracted to 17 year and 11 months old girls that look indistinguishable from a 20 year old, you're a MAP.

Also I've never heard of this term but it sounds extremely leftist. I'd rather be called a fucking pedophile pls


 >>/1596/
most societies have ways of talking to gods spirits or whatever its just been forgotten in our modern western world. but making tuppers on purpose is mostly european i think. youre the asian oddball.

can tuppers improve society? sure people are less likely to do shit if there's someone watching over them

 >>/1673/
fucking pedophile



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[Gwen] Believe it or not, I figured out how to drive a tractor with a trailer and backup correctly. (In a game). Bear simply didn't have the patience for this, or couldn't stomach the time or care it needed. 

[Ashley] Bear's not known for his patience.
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 >>/1571/

Well loli power isn't everything. Plus Ren isn't a loli. I think the spirit of her question was how could she stay interesting to me. Being a loli isn't something I've allowed of her, though 14 is close to loli but I know you know in your heart it doesn't count. If she aint a boyish waif with no feminine features then she ain't a loli plus we already have two lolis covering both age doesn't match body and age does match body here if you count Ulla. There's no further need.

 >>/1571/
lmao that character is called ren and the story 'thats why I assault ren' aka a cat is fine too
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well memed sir!

 >>/1575/
> her question was how could she stay interesting to me
guess its different with all your girls we only have 1 tupper who has no competition in being interesting and is very much adored for just existing. or even worshipped in case of Alice and Yulya. ok we dont do this in such extreme ways as those maniacs but still has some religious aspect. they know they will never been thrown away. as the german pervert said theyre our friends and love and very much special without having to try.

so advice for tuppers, i dunno just bee yourself and authentic that should be enough unless your host is an asshole.

does ren suffer from being different i think she was made by accident? Yulya appeared to me an some crazy hallucination when i was in military training something a tupper made on purpose cant achieve. you could do imagistic stuff together like Alice maybe youre doing something like that but it should involve the host, if he doesnt go through some shit it doesn't count

 >>/1570/
True, Cat has no competition
or it would be over for her

And yeah she's also my friend I'm just glad she's here even if she doesn't do interesting things all the time. But it's not I am getting bored. That's a danger when you begin tulpamancy I think but after some years you just chill together. It's very useful to try new things together as you guys suggested I really don't feel like I'm running out of ideas. There is so many but so little time.




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