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> tfw you realise that "degenerate art" is a psyop because all art is inherently degenerate

did you finally try alkohol denmark

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 >>/25737/
No
 >>/25741/
> non-organic food is degenerate

 >>/25741/
go o glad kex choklad

 >>/25737/
Seriously though, do you disagree with anything I said in the OP?

 >>/25751/
not really, you are on point. miles mathis wrote a good paper on modern art you would like I think. 

http://mileswmathis.com/papa.pdf

200 years ago they just used complete pawns like voltaire to do their bidding for them. candide is a pretty depraved book if you really think about it, especially from that era's point of view. 

just look back 50 years ago and see how much culture has changed and people dont even think about it. 

humans are the most studied species on the planet. the elite know perfectly well how to control us, specifically through sex and our passions (emotions). 

blue jeans is just a way of erasing individuality, by making everyone dressing the same. uniform (army), uniformity.

here is a good one too

http://mileswmathis.com/nonude.pdf

thats why complete talentless imbeciles like andy warhol becomes famous and soulless products that ikea churns out become mainstream. to degrade society as a whole. no country is a better example of a lobotomized nwo country than sweden in regards to this. people look at me as if I were a nutjob because I pay with cash and not card!

 >>/25752/
Even things as simple as working out, shirts and jeans, and the concept of the teenager were ALL 19th century manufactured creations. The industrial revolution is really at the core of this, though ideologically. this can be traced way back to the ancient times and internationalist empires like Greece and Rome. Modernism simply performs that idea far better.

 >>/25754/
Speaking of working out, I realised that "alpha males" and the Greek idea of masculinity are actually effeminate in nature. It places way too much emphasis on one's own looks, which is something only a woman would do.

 >>/25754/
indeed they were, and people dont even think about it for one second. 

maybe the industrial revolution is to blame, I dont know. people were being controlled before that too. sometimes I think that the whole protestant revolution was pre planned in order to pave the way for the industrial revolution. it was venetian bankers (jews) who printed the protestant pamphlets for example. martin luther was arrested by the catholic church, and then they just let him go (!). thats a bit strange isnt it when they were burning guys for much less stuff. 

 >>/25755/
> Speaking of working out, I realised that "alpha males" and the Greek idea of masculinity are actually effeminate in nature. It places way too much emphasis on one's own looks, which is something only a woman would do.

alot of the shit can be traced back to the greeks. platos republic is pretty much a perfect illustration how society today is.

I was reading btw that aristotle was the teacher of alexander the great. aristotle’s wife's father was one of the international bankers of the time. coincidence? that his daughter marries aristotle and aristotle becomes the teacher of the dude who just happens to conquer the known world? 

I mean where did alexander get all this money to go to war? we never really think about this, but just accept it as it is.

 >>/25758/
The industrial revolution and technology simply made things a lot easier for the elites. It was already going on earlier with the Enlightenment, but the industrial revolution sped things up and made things easier for the elites. 
> sometimes I think that the whole protestant revolution was pre planned in order to pave the way for the industrial revolution. it was venetian bankers (jews) who printed the protestant pamphlets for example. martin luther was arrested by the catholic church, and then they just let him go (!). thats a bit strange isnt it when they were burning guys for much less stuff. 
That's a Catholic psyop I would say. Luther in general kept Catholic practices (perhaps he was controlled opposition). Calvin was the real deal. And still, without the Reformation, we wouldn't actually be able to read the Bible, and wouldn't have positive "nationalism" (i.e., not the revolutionary kind that came with freemasons and the 19th century revolutions). We'd still be "hylics" under the papacy and just as controlled. I've recently been on a binge of this guy:
http://southernprotestant.com/neonaziguide.html
Southern Israelite. He gives major evidence for the Jesuits creating modernity, and I would actually agree with him here.
> alot of the shit can be traced back to the greeks. platos republic is pretty much a perfect illustration how society today is.
Plato's Republic IS the doctrine of the NWO. Here's a fact for you. All the Greek philosophers like Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Diogenes, Pythagoras, etc. ALL CAME FROM A TIME WHERE GREECE WAS IN DECLINE. Pythagoras was actually educated in Egypt, Babylon and Phoenicia. It's likely that republicanism and democracy aren't even Greek in origin, but come from an even earlier Babylonian teaching.

 >>/25759/
Phoenicians, probably.

 >>/25760/
> ALL CAME FROM A TIME WHERE GREECE WAS IN DECLINE. Pythagoras was actually educated in Egypt, Babylon and Phoenicia
bingo. not many people see this connection. all these guys were trained in the mystery school, lots of them went to egypt. then came back to greece and fomented revolution. 

in sweden when I went to school these so called philosophers were hailed as great men and we studied them for like 5 months. 

most of history is just a scam,  a side show when you see it as it is. call me crazy but so much of it doesnt make any sense if you go by the official version.

 >>/25762/
No, you're not crazy. You've realised the truth here. Academia and public education all cover up the stuff that they don't want people to learn, and propagandise their written history. 
That being said, I don't think most historical events were fabricated like all the Russian stuff with Fomenko and mud floods, but that official history is mostly a sham and covers up most important aspects.

Even 20th century events are heavily glossed over. There's this one Lithuanian poster on Liveleak called "Crapcakes" that said the Lithuanian language was heavily edited by the CIA to fit that of English, and that most of Lithuania's population was replaced with Turkic and Caucasian (as in, Georgian, Iranian, Armenian) immigrants during the Soviet period, which is why Lithuanian names and surnames are now so rare there. He's probably telling the truth as well.
Also, there was apparently an MKUltra program in Europe that's completely glossed over and "forgotten", not even documented like the American one.

 >>/25760/
> ALL CAME FROM A TIME WHERE GREECE WAS IN DECLINE
They were not in decline. But pre socrates nature scientists were more important than philosophers such as plato. 

> It's likely that republicanism and democracy aren't even Greek in origin
Muh division of power and city states. 

What made ancient greece what it was, was the constant communication with the world and being open towards the change. If they only sticked to themselves they would be something like dacians or at best etruscans during their downfall 

So muh educated in outside is just a terrible reasoning since knowing and analysing the rest of the world what made them different. They didn't just copy outside of the world, they brught foreign things with their own touch and adapted them with their own culture.

 >>/25778/
why not remove the kebab from your ears and start thinking for yourself

adorno was right all the way

 >>/25803/
is that some sort of joke or are you serious. ive actually read adorno. 

ps adorno wrote the songs of beatles ds

 >>/25804/
dead serious

white "people" are degenerate

 >>/25805/
No, that's Anglo/Swiss/Italian elites and jews masquerading as whites. Also Americans.

 >>/25805/
what ethnicity are you

 >>/25807/
He's part of the long-nosed tribe that makes bagels.

 >>/25808/
I know there is an iranian who posts on kc who lives in netherlands maybe its him

 >>/25809/
Then it's that other somewhat long-nosed tribe that makes kebab.

 >>/25808/
> long-nose
I heard somewhere Jews acquired this trait when they intermixed with Hittites. Similar to the tallness of some - another Jewish peculiarity the duality of their height, they tend to be polarized to the two extremes.

 >>/25815/
Yeah, most "jewish features" are actually either the product of inbreeding or mixing. Esau was the one to mix with the Hittites, and it probably ties into that.
Maybe that's also where the Italian nose comes from. Romans came from Trojans who were Hittites (or at least part of their empire).

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 >>/25807/
me on pic

 >>/25759/
my mom told me that lenin "m-m-maybe had money" for the revolution, even tho he was basically nobody (still lived half of his life in swiss tho)

 >>/25765/
the fun thin is that history cannot be verified and you can speculate on pretty much fucking everything

also its pretty much full of literal fakes that again cannot be verified

 >>/25820/
Lenin was funded by the Swiss bankers, and also indirectly via German intelligence.

 >>/25822/
and they used machine gun designed/acquired by rothschild (Maxima)

but then again its something plebs don't care about (and the ones who do gettin a bullet)

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 >>/25823/
Machine guns are as jewish as bagels.

 >>/25824/
Assault rifles meanwhile were created by Italians.

 >>/25820/
he was in a long line of revolutionaries funded by bankers

there is revolutionaries right now funded by bankers that is doing the same thing as lenin does. people just dont think about it. 

 >>/25821/
> the fun thin is that history cannot be verified and you can speculate on pretty much fucking everything
> 
> also its pretty much full of literal fakes that again cannot be verified
the winners write the history. look at the roman empire. they were homocidal maniacs genociding people left and right and meanwhile when people today think of roman empire they think of colosseum and togas. 

when I began reading more about swedish history for example I saw that most of it were lies and more lies. the so called founder of modern sweden gustaf vasa was jewish, jews had been marrying into the house of vasa since at least 1400. some might call this the "black nobility", but pretty much every throne in europe got infiltrated. 

wars for me is just human sacrifises, look at the old mystery religions and then connect it to wars. 1/3 of the population died in the 30 years war in germany, who benefitted from that? wars dont just happen by itself.

if anyone cares to read the UN papers on agenda 2030, agenda 21 and agenda 2150 you will pretty much see how the future will unfold. to add to my credibility, electricity prices will soon (in about 2 years) go up drastically. petrol prices was 1€ here in sweden 10 years ago, now its 1,6€. it all ties into the bigger picture.

 >>/25827/
*agenda 2050

https://youtube.com/watch?v=0K4iPh27z7c

about plato etc

 >>/25826/
> the winners write the history. look at the roman empire. they were homocidal maniacs genociding people left and right and meanwhile when people today think of roman empire they think of colosseum and togas. 
Yep, you got it right. It's safe to say that Rome was basically the USA of its time. Uniting all of their western provinces under a single language (Latin) and under a single religion (Roman syncretic paganism, later on Sol Invictus and Catholicism). All modern republican countries are modeled after the Roman republic (Venice being the first, and it was occultist as fuck). Rome wasn't glorious, it was internationalist and evil. 
> when I began reading more about swedish history for example I saw that most of it were lies and more lies. the so called founder of modern sweden gustaf vasa was jewish, jews had been marrying into the house of vasa since at least 1400. some might call this the "black nobility", but pretty much every throne in europe got infiltrated. 
Italians/Venetians (them having crypto-jews in their rank as usual) as well. Everytime you see weird "jewish" features in some Scandinavians or Balts, this is the culprit. Also Turks and Tatars. There are so many mass ethnic movements in history that nobody even documented.
> wars for me is just human sacrifises, look at the old mystery religions and then connect it to wars
Didn't the Jesuits in the CIA literally say they were to wage war in the Middle East and China and ritually sacrifice their NATO soldiers?

 >>/25849/
And I have to add, it's possible that the very internet itself IS a continuation of this. WWW = 666, number of the beast. Cult of Cybele/Cyber. Unix (developed in BELL labs) are the Eunuchs, which is why there are so many trannies into Linux and programming. Then there are all the occult Blavatskian ties to early 20th century electronics.

 >>/25850/
I am firing up the grill but a quick note about the internet. Both Jacques Attali and Zbigniew Brzezinski wrote about the internet - in the 70's. Or perhaps it was late 1960's. Two books that are absolutely supergood is between two ages by ziggy and millenium: winners and losers in the coming millenia by attali. I have pdfs of them if you want. These two guys were advisors two french respective american presidents, they knew the inside machinations. 

Internet is ALL about control. Nothing else. Amazon, windows, apple etc is all owned by the cia. Bill gates etc is just frontmen. Most people who read this will just shrug it off. If you do some casual digging nothing of the official version we get makes any sense.

http://mileswmathis.com/bezos.pdf

 >>/25851/
Indeed. The internet never stopped being part of the military. 
/pol/ loves to pretend that "DA INTERNET WILL EXPOSE THE JOOZ BECAUSE THEY ONLY HAVE LEGACY MEDIA" while in reality, they own the internet. They have backdoors all over. Most movements and memes like the Occupy movement were CIA controlled opposition.

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> WWW = 666, number of the beast. 
rofl, those schizeneu things again.

 >>/25753/
> people look at me as if I were a nutjob because I pay with cash and not card!
Tell them you are that hip. Problems weren't.

 >>/25855/
> not paying using coins

 >>/25856/
What are you trying to imply?

 >>/25857/
You said paying with cash isn't hip (at least that's what I think you meant to say?), and so I replied saying that paying with coins is what's really non-hip.

 >>/25858/
Hmm.
In a world where anything can be tolerated without a blink it seems strange there are people who would find it peculiar that one's paying with cash. So I just tried to give him a tip how to normalize his behaviour to them.
Actually the whole thing is probably in his own heda, so eventually I just tried to give him a tip how to normalize his behaviour to himself.

 >>/25758/
> it was venetian bankers (jews) who printed the protestant pamphlets
How dare they!!! Why not the pope himself printed those pamphlets???

 >>/25760/
> republicanism and democracy aren't even Greek in origin, but come from an even earlier Babylonian teaching.
Earlier. From the Sumers. Ur and Uruk was two cities with different ideas, one was very centralized with bureaucracy they were capable of account one grain of wheat. The other was decentralized, the people held assemblies and created laws together, legislation and government were separated (as far as I know we don't yet know about justice). I can't remember which city was which.

 >>/25861/
And then it later spread to the Chaldeans and became part of the Babylonian mystery school teachings, which then spread to Greece via Pythagoras.

 >>/25778/
I agree with you. Grease built on stuff she imported from around.
But they also had the level of prosperity to support a bunch of good for nothings who had the time to sit/walk around and just ponder on stuff and not had to struggle with day to day living.

 >>/25784/
Frankly you and Danebernd are tinfoil-hat-tier, tho somewhat in different shade.

 >>/25821/
That's kinda historical nihilism.

 >>/25826/
> they were homocidal maniacs genociding people left and right
But they were proud of that nature of theirs, they never wrote history so others could think they are harmless engineers and fashion designers.
> ews had been marrying into the house of vasa since at least 1400. some might call this the "black nobility", but pretty much every throne in europe got infiltrated. 
Validate your opinion pls.

 >>/25863/
> Frankly you and Danebernd are tinfoil-hat-tier, tho somewhat in different shade.
This is I guess the dedicated tinfoil thread.

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 >>/25863/
> But they also had the level of prosperity to support a bunch of good for nothings who had the time to sit/walk around and just ponder on stuff and not had to struggle with day to day living.
Well they werent exactly living in a golden age before they understood importance of constant communications and which includes trade. Still you're right.

 >>/25863/
> Frankly you and Danebernd are tinfoil-hat-tier, tho somewhat in different shade.
great argument. why are you posting in this magnificent thread if you are just going to post insults.

 >>/25863/
> But they were proud of that nature of theirs, they never wrote history so others could think they are harmless engineers and fashion designers.
go read some Suetonius then. do you know how many people julius ceasar enslaved and killed during his rampages in gaul and britain?
 >>/25863/
> Validate your opinion pls.
 http://mileswmathis.com/england.pdf

 >>/25860/
they lost money on those endeavors but I guess you can come up with some retarded reply to that too.

 >>/25852/
imageboard culture is itself a creation of the people behind the curtain. people dont stop and think that their ideas and beliefs were handed to them.

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 >>/25869/
Yep. It's odd that 4/8chan /pol/ love to screech JIDF when in reality, 4chan/2chan themselves were always "JIDF". There used to be some really good content about it on /horror/ though that's basically just a giant gallery now. 
Even the happy merchant meme for example was made by Nick Bougas. He was a Hollywood associate who had an affair with a jewish girl and was friends with LaVey, Aquino, Manson, and all sorts of spooks. Then there's Pepe made by a San Franciscan spook, Wojak, even SPURDO could possibly be a psyop meme (though that's probably a bit of a stretch, pic related, from the infamous Illuminati card game).

 >>/25870/
Protip, most websites with Google captchas or tracking cookies are compromised.

Even moot was a NY jew.

 >>/25867/
> great argument.
> you are just going to post insults
For you it might be insult. For everyone else it's an observation.

> go read some Suetonius then. do you know how many people julius ceasar enslaved and killed during his rampages in gaul and britain?
Great many sources were left to us about the violent nature of Romans or rather the normal nature of Romans, they weren't more violent than any of their contemporaries, frankly only modern sissy westerners thinks violence is something that people should be embarrassed about. Even you mentioned the Colosseum which was the scene of many bloody games - they even created mosaics about people killing each other, and people killing animals and vice-versa. 
Suetonius' basically wrote gossip-books btw.
Historians' job is to compare sources and test them against each other. Every written source is biased and historians know this and historians do "source criticism". But there are sources which aren't written (liek archaeological findings) and - while they can be also open for interpretation - 'bout 100-150 years now these sources are also integrated into their work, written sources tested against these as well.
You also shouldn't mistake ancient "historians" with modern ones. Maybe we call Herodotus the "first historian" but frankly he was just some dude travelling a little and writing shit down he saw and heard.

> mileswmathis
So you really didn't begin read more about Swedish history just saw some dude's speculation and took it as if it was real because it fits into your peculiar world view?
I dl'd that book and will read a little but right after reading a few paragraphs I can tell he is fraud. I won't even go into the Medici stuff just look at this:
> Henry was mysteriously “elected” King of Poland and Lithuania. Since when were Kings elected? Supposedly the “electors” invited him to rule their country, although he had no former connection to it. Right.
He really lacks information and it shows he only knows about stuff he gathered to fit into his preconceptions. Yes, many Polish kings were elected. Hungarian kings were elected too. HR Emperors were also elected.
It's just eleven pages so I'll probably read it but really sounds painful. Then ofc the Medici stuff because it seems he bases the whole thing on his other research that in truth, Medicis were Jews!

 >>/25867/
All right, skimmed that paper and that proves nothing.
It says Catherine Jagiellon, Queen of Sweden was the daughter of Barbara Radziwill who was Jewish. - This is just a statement of his. No actual evidence was shown.
He refers to another paper but not as a proof of Radziwill's Jewish origin but to back another of his claim, that Anna Jagellion might be her daughter as well.
So I dl'd that another paper in the hope that it will verify his claim that Barbara Radziwill was Jewish. But that paper doesn't because he can't. He just presents a series of speculation what others might call a conspiracy theory. He even suggests she was a witch. Otherwise, insinuations and implications, no actual content. And not even source material, no footnotes, endnotes where he get's his "data" and not even a bibliography.
All right, enough of this farce.
This was the list time I go and check the reliability of the stuff you post. From now on I'll just refer to this interlude while dealing with you to spare myself another wild goose chase.
I'm all for speculation and alternative ideas but at least give proper sources for theories. Maybe Suvorov handles his sources bad, but at least he gives actual ones, oftentimes quite accurately.

Oh. One more thing. By the end of the second paper I dl'd (Was Napoleon Jewish?) he writes:
> Do you remember Sigismund III Vasa, who became King of Sweden in 1592? He was the son of Catherine Jagiellon of Poland, who I showed you was probably the daughter of Barbara Radziwiłł.
So it isn't even sure that Catherine was the daughter of Barbara.

 >>/25876/
> Since when were Kings elected?
Poles had sejm. As for your questiong many of kingdoms which lack central authority in some degree was elected. HRE is an example, ERE was de facto elective without votes, there were kingmakers. List goes on.

 >>/25867/
> great argument. 
You don't have any in the first place, if you think believing holy ghost and stuff is an argument you're moron, you are the one who should validate his opinion not the Hungarian bernd.

 >>/25878/
> Poles had sejm
Yes they did. In Poland the assembly of the estates was very powerful. Too powerful. Other European countries had similar institution and many had their fair share turning the tables (like in the 17th century England).
> lack central authority
All is about the movement and balance of power. Who practiced it. In medieval, late medieval (early modern era) societies autocracy pressed against oligarchy - to refer another thread. Kings tried to claim the right of making decisions to themselves while nobility and clergy (and some extent commoners) did the same. But oligarchy was a rarely united front, chiefly two oligarchic parties pressed against each other in the fight for power, sometimes kings used one party for their advantage, sometimes one party used the king for their advantage, sometimes both parties had their king who used them, or they the kings.
Poland is a great example for this chaotic situation.
For your RE example: on the Hungary election was there from the formation of Hungarians, when the tribes made the Blood Pact during the late 9th century. When there was a stable royal family - at the times of Árpáds and Habsburgs - it was a formality, but between these two dynasties other houses changed rapidly after a couple of kings and election was taken seriously.

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 >>/25879/
> For your RE example:
HRE or ERE?
My explanation is just simplistic and disregards more in depth things. If I had to write longer, more or less I'd come up with same explanation. Considering I see it something directly related to balance of power as well.

 >>/25881/
> HRE or ERE?
Both. As in it was sometimes just a gesture but sometimes a serious decision.

 >>/25877/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radziwiłł_family
This is apparently where they come from. Lithuanian.

 >>/25888/
Yes. The paper says it she came from Lithuania. And the author links her marriage to the Polish king to another event: the king made a deal with some Lithuanian financiers whom - according to the author - were Jewish. And since everyone hated her in Poland and she was a witch, and this event went down about that time she had to be Jewish. Flawless logic.

 >>/25876/
> For you it might be insult. For everyone else it's an observation.
of course its an insult calling people tin foil hat tier. you know, in a free society people are free to speak their mind. 

I suggest you dont post in this thread anymore.

 >>/25870/
 >>/25872/
imageboard culture is a bit like bitcoin. people think they are anonymous whilst its the complete opposite. 

as you point out succinctly the whole anti jew has been created by the people behind the curtain. why? well there is two explanations. the first which is more logical is to create this anti jewish sentiment in order to have the "end times*". the other is just jewish hysteria but its a weak explanation. 

*http://redefininggod.com/obama-and-the-2nd-coming/

http://redefininggod.com/nwo-schedule-of-implementation/

 >>/25895/
I addressed your nonsense with great care, reply to that, min lilla shitposter.

 >>/25896/
> infowars

it was russia today tier and it was on kacey

 >>/25897/
go away

 >>/25904/
you are saging because you are a saboteur

 >>/25729/
asking for reading material where you have come to your (correct) conclusions. its not often you find a person who is awaken.

 >>/25896/
> imageboard culture is a bit like bitcoin. people think they are anonymous whilst its the complete opposite. 
Yeah, unless you use a proxy/VPN and are browsing anonymously, you're being spied on by both 4chan and 8chan. Even then, they're honeypots in that every click you make, they record. 
> as you point out succinctly the whole anti jew has been created by the people behind the curtain. why? well there is two explanations. the first which is more logical is to create this anti jewish sentiment in order to have the "end times*". the other is just jewish hysteria but its a weak explanation.
Maybe all the anti-jewish stuff is to hide the Swiss Jesuit control. Notice how 4chan and 8chan either shill for Catholic/Orthodox monarchy as the solution for the jewish problem, or alternatively, a new Roman empire that's either Catholic or classic pagan, with anything Protestant or anti-Roman attacked by both sides. Notice all the Templar memes. Again, this guy has things right:
http://southernprotestant.com/neonaziguide.html
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_yfZS1N2VSbRRKiDc_zEBw

 >>/25911/
Some are just basic things, for example, attacking shirts and jeans, or even art as graven images. I'm trying to find the smoking gun connecting Theosophy to technology right now.

 >>/25911/
Here's one for example, Tesla talks about creating a matriarchal new world order:
http://anengineersaspect.blogspot.com/2011/07/nikola-tesla-mr-tesla-explains-why-he.html

 >>/25944/ 
Going to link from this thread. Japanese derive most of their ethics including the samurai class from Ainu traditions (dark-haired "white" barbarians), traditions from Chinese, and Indians/Central Asians (including the Indian and Greek mysteries).
Fujin and Raijin are literally Greek deities.

 >>/25946/
Lol @ /pol/ fantasies

 >>/25948/
No, seriously, look it up. The Greeks spread Buddhism into China and Japan.

 >>/25916/
its a cultural war aswell. if you can break your opponent before battle you have already won. 

technically the roman empire never went away did it? it just continued with the catholic church.

 >>/25917/
you should read jacques ellul, he writes about technology extremely well. he did a 3 series book about it, the first is the technological society.

technology is the root of all of this.

 >>/25946/
trying to remember where I read this but basically it was about indo europeans laying the foundation to japan. I cant for the life of me remember where I read it.

 >>/25949/
After this I've no doubt Jesus was Hungarian.

 >>/25906/
No. You can decide you won't reply to me but you cannot tell me if I can post here or in any other thread.
You are just assblasted, get over it.

 >>/25948/
When our little community was still back on 8, one day a dude started to talk about /pol/ colonization after some posts (not long after that he took over the board sadly). I can kinda see now what he meant.

 >>/25956/
Well that's the case for everyone who want to push their political agenda. They succeed not with logical arguments but by simply be majority or actively post and scorn others. This won't change, atleast for soon. 

> After this I've no doubt Jesus was Hungarian.
Hungarians don't tend to create shitfest stories after some fatherless delusional child.

 >>/25960/
> Hungarians don't tend to create shitfest stories after some fatherless delusional child.
Oh, we have these. But they are rarely known and not at all numerous. Ofc with the internet those who subscribe to these ideas also make websites, so now they somewhat surfaced.
This Jesus thing goes liek this: Jesus was Parthian, who were basically Scythians, who were Hungarians.
The other most ridiculous idea is that we are from the Sirius. Ofc.

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 >>/25963/
> This Jesus thing goes liek this: Jesus was Parthian, who were basically Scythians, who were Hungarians.
kek'd hard. this is muhammed was a Turk and he taught arabs to fight tier, not that I don't find these amusing. It's only funny when you don't believe in those.

 >>/25964/
> It's only funny when you don't believe in those.
Yup. And the problem with those who believe these is that they are very fanatical about it. They can't just discuss it in theory they are very belligerent against their "opposition".

 >>/25951/
> technically the roman empire never went away did it? it just continued with the catholic church.
YES. You get it. Remember the Sol Invictus cult that was once the state religion of Rome (and which Constantine believed in)? Catholicism is most likely a continuation of that, just masquerading as Christianity and rules more subtly than Rome did. Mille viae ducunt homines per saecula Romam, that's what the medieval French said.
 >>/25952/
PDF?
Also, more on Tesla, etc.: https://www.salvationandsurvival.com/2014/12/was-tesla-conduit-between-fallen-angels.html

 >>/25955/
> After this I've no doubt Jesus was Hungarian.
Seriously, look it up. Graeco-Bactrian kingdom.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C5%ABjin
< The iconography of Fujin seems to have its origin in the cultural exchanges along the Silk Road. Starting with the Hellenistic period when Greece occupied parts of Central Asia and India, the Greek wind god Boreas became the god Wardo in Greco-Buddhist art, then a wind deity in China (frescoes of the Tarim Basin), and finally the Japanese Wind God Fujin

 >>/25968/
It's a leap from this to conclude that:
> The Greeks spread Buddhism into China and Japan.
Cultural practices can travel long distances without the originating source actively pushing it. Even that piece of relief(?) from Gandhara wasn't made by Greek artist but it is already a cultural impression from almost half a millenia earlier. And it is certainly far fetched that Buddhism itself was spread by Greeks.

 >>/25955/
 >>/25956/
you dont get it do you. both me and danebernd are againt pol because its a psyop. 

it doesnt matter what "sources" I post, you have already made up your mind. if I say that theodor adorno wrote the songs to beatles, you will say im a nutter and thats it. 

this is how the majority of people are, they will never question their own perceived reality given to them. 

words like tin foil hat is something you have learnt and then you proceed to use it, completely oblivious that you are being taken for a ride.

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 >>/25967/
here is pdf. adding a good introduction of what he means by tecnique. 

the tesla text is interesting, I thought this was specifically fascinating. 

" "Our civilization will sink to a state like that which is found among the bees, ants and other insects--a state wherein the male is ruthlessly killed off. In this matriarchal empire which will be established the female rules. As the female predominates, the males are at her mercy. The male is considered important only as a factor in the general scheme of the continuity of life."

 >>/25977/
 >>/25977/
> if I say that theodor adorno wrote the songs to beatles, you will say im a nutter and thats it. 
can't see why not, he'd do it.

 >>/25952/
> technology is the root of all of this.
Then there's no need to think of secret cabals of elites devising long-term plans and changing society through their willpower, because mere relations and instruments of production will by themselves carry out that change.

 >>/25989/
Who's to say that technology isn't a very useful tool for such cabals?

Here's a mainstream documentary on the roots of the internet and how it's incredibly vile:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wr5M6oEx2j4

 >>/25990/
If technology is an useful tool for such cabals, then it is a tool. As such, its societal effects are not set in stone and it can be used in a number of different ways; existing relationships between man and technology can thus be made worse or better through man's willpower. The word tool already implies human command.

 >>/25991/
very fascinating will watch it 

the unabomber is a strange case, alot of things doesnt make sense to me. some say he was a spook but I dont know.

 >>/25993/
The Unabomber was probably an MKUltra victim who rebelled. Varg too I think was a victim of the GATE program (Norwegian branch of MKUltra).

 >>/25977/
> both me and danebernd
Don't try to create cliques here, dude.
> it doesnt matter what "sources" I post
It really does matter since you won't convince anyone with tall tales.
> they will never question their own perceived reality given to them. 
And you try to give me another "reality" and you expect me to salute and roll over? Make up your mind.

 >>/25997/
> Varg too I think was a victim of the GATE program 
Unlikely. He would have stabbed them first.

 >>/26000/
I'm talking about before he stabbed Euronymous.

 >>/25997/
wouldnt suprise me about varg. why did he become so famous? his music is more than mediocre. why does media write about him so often? how did he suddenly become famous on youtube? 

plus the fact he doesnt seem "real" if you know what I mean. 

 >>/26002/
> I'm talking about before he stabbed Euronymous.
I suggest you ignore hungarian poster, he seems to just want to disrupt any meaningful discussions.

 >>/25997/
text about him being a possible psy op

http://mileswmathis.com/unabomber.pdf

 >>/26003/
Yep, he's another psyop e-celeb.

 >>/26003/
His music became big largely because the time was right, people got sick of cheesy contrived and polished filler, "American" music or as it would be called today American music, 
Varg and his merry group represented the opposite of what was being force fed, the media and religious groups overreaction to the antics "real or rumours" cemented popularity cemented it

all tech companies are founded by jews
literally LITERALLY
cogiscens? i think not
i mean just find a CA company that isn't

 >>/26006/
And black metal is a good alternative? 
https://youtube.com/watch?v=YiHMy6V5Qjc
Tell me, do you like this?

 >>/26017/
They promote degenerate things to change the course of culture. The people who produces it are paid actors, the masses who lap it up are stupid goyim.

 >>/26003/
> I suggest you ignore hungarian poster, he seems to just want to disrupt any meaningful discussions.
I'm paid by the BKV just for that purpose.

 >>/26017/
For his defence, he didn't said it's a good alternative.
I previously mentioned when I posted a Burzum song, I'd prefer it without vocals. Considering it's basically a garage band not even bad.
For the chosen topic of the lyrics I can rationalize why his vocals fits tho. For one dying isn't something pleasurable, a song about it doesn't need to be one. Second, his voice can be considered as a death rattle that enhance the lyrics.

 >>/26021/
"Counter-culture" is almost completely manufactured, as are all 20th century cultures.

 >>/26024/
imagine world without counter-culture: normie apocalypsis

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The baby boomers are the most degenerate.

 >>/26026/
The entire "counter-culture" is just as brainwashed as "normalfags". We wouldn't even have "normalfags" at all if not for 20th century manufactured culture. 
 >>/26027/
Boomerism was when consumerism started really kicking in, indeed. Don't pretend that Gen X, millenials and Gen Z now aren't worse though. It's even more domestication of man. 
Since you're American, you probably remember people like this guy:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=cmNb3xJFzkc
These "boomers" were unironically right.

 >>/26030/
> We wouldn't even have "normalfags"

tell that to taoist monks in china that were killed by normies

 >>/26031/
That's because China has always had this feudal structure. Things are different in the west.

 >>/26038/
Still after the industrial revolution.

 >>/26024/
as it always is. 

 >>/26027/

baby boomers just lived during the most economic upswing that the world has ever seen. which is logical, ww2 was the biggest war in modern times. they just expect everything to be as they were during the last 50 years or so.

danebernd, something that struck me was when I was watching a tv series. conquistadores adventum, it shows the first journoeys made by spain to the new world. and everyone, literally everyone who was the explorer in the first era was an italian. columbus, vespucci, cabot, verrazzano, galeano etc. why all these italians in spanish service? the portugese hired other portugese but not spain. I just find it strange. I read somewhere that the templars knew about americas so perhaps they were templars with maps?

 >>/26007/
they were behind that fuka fuck me thing too

 >>/26039/
seems as the renaissance change the course of world history, this humanist bullshit, the end of sacred things etc.

 >>/26055/
But the Renaissance was simply an increase of technology, life standards (which did lead to many good things) AND Greek philosophy (which was still being studied as early as the Carolingian renaissance, but the Greek schools were completely bankrolled during the medieval period). It included really everything I stated in the OP (after wearing blue jeans).
You can trace this all to Socratic and Pythagorean philosophy, from that to Babylon, and from that to Sumer, after the fall of man.
The industrial revolution made this a lot easier.

 >>/26052/
> danebernd, something that struck me was when I was watching a tv series. conquistadores adventum, it shows the first journoeys made by spain to the new world. and everyone, literally everyone who was the explorer in the first era was an italian. columbus, vespucci, cabot, verrazzano, galeano etc. why all these italians in spanish service? the portugese hired other portugese but not spain. 
Spain used Italians for their expeditions. They used "Arab" Iberians and Sephardic jews to actually conquer south America (probably why they were good at desert warfare). Italians though were probably chosen because of their naval experience. There could be some occult stuff behind why Italians were chosen, however.  It could be about
> I read somewhere that the templars knew about americas so perhaps they were templars with maps?
Templars died out and went crypto. They took their organisational structure and the documents that they found in Egypt and the Levant and created "freemasonry". 
This all coincides with the sudden increase in architecture in Europe. 
So fun-fact, the grand cathedrals were all built by proto-masons.

 >>/26056/
have you read eustace mullins curse of canaan?

 >>/26058/
Nope. PDF?

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 >>/26059/
sounded exactly like what he wrote in that book so thats why I asked.

 >>/26060/
Well, it's really the natural path for people like me and perhaps him. It's a hard path for some people, especially people who want to believe that this is just a modern phenomenon and not that evil was rampant throughout history. 
I'm skimming through it right now and it looks pretty good.

 >>/26057/
spain didnt have any explorers at all? come on now. would denmark hire swedish explorers? doesnt make sense does it. 

the show is pretty good, it shows how insanely brutal and ruthless the spanish were (or if it was spaniards who did it maybe it was jews). werent jews expelled from spain around that time period? 

it just seems odd that columbus were dead certain that they would hit land in 33 seadays. how was he so sure?

 >>/26062/
> werent jews expelled from spain around that time period? 
Not those who converted to Catholicism. That's why the inquisition happened, they wanted to get rid of all jews that weren't really Catholics. 
> it just seems odd that columbus were dead certain that they would hit land in 33 seadays. how was he so sure?
33 because that's the most significant number for masons, Catholics are also obsessed with it.

 >>/26065/
how do you know if someone really isnt a catholic?

jesus liked the number 33 aswell

 >>/26067/
> how do you know if someone really isnt a catholic?
They investigated to see if they were crypto-jews or Muslims (in Valentia).
> jesus liked the number 33 aswell
Well, that's because he died at 33.

 >>/26068/
There is more of 33 in the bible. I will say for the sake of transparency that im not a christian. But I like the message that jesus preached. Especially the part that money (in and of itself) is the root of evil.

 >>/26078/
Well, that's the most obvious one.

Oh yeah, speaking about /pol/ and psyops, apparently Lt. Corbis (the "girl" that's being promoted heavily on Youtube right now) reads off a script from a Catholic guy.

 >>/26081/
how is it obvious? 
 >>/26082/
> Oh yeah, speaking about /pol/ and psyops, apparently Lt. Corbis (the "girl" that's being promoted heavily on Youtube right now) reads off a script from a Catholic guy.

pretty much everyone who the media promotes or get big is one of them

jacques ellul writes about this in his book propaganda. that media is an essential arm of a technological society. whenever you see hospital/medical or military/police movie or series it is purely propaganda.

 >>/26095/
I'd say anybody you see on the media at all is one of them.

 >>/26099/
pretty much yes

 >>/25729/
>  >touching your peepee is degenerate
this I think calls for a longer explanation. from my own experiences, when I do a nofap for a longer period I have more energy, feel more alive and its easier to deal with all the bs in the world. its important to channel the energy to something productive otherwise its easy to just become frustrated. from a biological viewpoint cortisol, prolactin goes down (good), dopamine goes up(good) and a range of other benefits. Lets face it, the modern world is artificial and highly unnatural. Looking at a screen is unnatural, looking at boobs at a screen is unnatural. And there is evidence linking hairloss to cortisool and prolactin so you wont loose your hair and thats pretty nice. 

https://www.antidopamine.com/nofap/list-of-benefits/

 >>/25729/
and also, danebernd please explain why you think this way. its hard to have a debate with just opinions.

 >>/26104/
Much of it is a natural path after reading the Bible, but stuff like shirts and jeans, technology, etc. are a little more complex, which stems as I said from here:  >>/25754/
Long story short, I questioned modernism, I questioned classicality, I connected the dots, and here I am today.

 >>/26108/
dude you need to explain why you think that way. otherwise it just look like a cheap copy paste

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 >>/26113/
You mean like this?:
> niggers are degenerate
< I think you know why, picrel
> Americans are degenerate
< consumerism and hedonism, all defining traits of urban American lifestyle, the concept of suburbia as a whole, literally the origin of white trash, etc.
> t-shirts are degenerate
< see  >>/25754/ t-shirts were originally meant to be undershirts, very soulless outfit itself
> blue jeans are degenerate
< more uniformity like with t-shirts, originally created by Levi Strauss as unisex clothes
> wearing short sleeves is degenerate
< pretty much for the same reasons t-shirts in general are degenerate, historically, long sleeves were the way to go
> technology is degenerate
< a large portion of this thread is already dedicated to technology 
> science is degenerate
< more-so modern science, a lot of it is very poorly done and doesn't prove anything, is a great tool for the elites to promote homosexuality and transsexuality as "natural", etc.
> all art is degenerate (and graven images)
< see: graven images, basically a waste of time with no real practicality aside from preserving history or promoting some kind of message in which case words do better
> cosmopolitanism is degenerate
< rootless bourgeoisie "culture", literally means citizen of the world
> touching your peepee is degenerate
< one word: lust
> dating is fornication and degenerate
< self-explanatory, dating is fornication, arranged marriages are a good thing
> materialism is degenerate
< self-explanatory as well
> gnosticism is degenerate
< is too anti-material, promotes becoming God
> philosophy is degenerate
< is the root of so many of today's evils, promotes that the fallen man can reach a godly understanding and ends up falling in a Gnostic direction
> not having 10 children is degenerate
< be fruitful and multiply 
> music is degenerate
< similar reason for art, though this is the one I believe in the least
> shaving is degenerate
< lions have their manes, why shouldn't we have beards? being clean-shaven is childlike and makes you more vulnerable to the cold in the winter
> Muslims are heretics
< literally called "the Muhammedan heresy"
> Papists are heretics
< idolaters, promote work-based salvation, assimilate paganism, historically persecuted biblical Christians, etc.
> Jews are demons
< okay, not literal demons, more like demons in behaviour, no-doubt some have that influence

 >>/26117/
its a start.

 >>/26120/
So, that's not what you meant by an explanation?

 >>/26095/
> purely propaganda.
yeah
and if you don't its "lifestyle" propaganda: just as cancerous

few exceptions exist but they're never popular just like bmovies (the definition of bmovie is not a low budget but the movie that technically cannot be popular, there are bmovies with millions budgets)

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 >>/25755/
in nature many mammals and birds males look better and brighter than their female counterparts. it's just most of women don't know how to spend their free time and delve into useless shit.

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 >>/25729/
> tfw no pious amish GF to commit adultery with by holding hands without gloves on

 >>/26164/
What if actual Amish aren't even a thing anymore? I mean, even though we have tons of pictures of Amish like mine in the OP, they supposedly don't allow others to take pictures. There are also supposedly black Amish even though they're all German in origin, and many use plastic packaging which isn't really something a traditional group would do. 
https://youtube.com/watch?v=BlVgMF0YdFA
This guy exposes the Amish, also as trannies though he thinks that 80% of regular civilians are trannies/freemartins.

 >>/26167/
that sounds like bs but there is alot of inbreeding going on.

 >>/26186/
Yeah, I don't think literally 90% of the population are freemartins. He's right though regarding the falsity of the Amish though.

 >>/26221/
I think the renassaince opened the floodgates to alot of the horrible stuff we see today. 

this video I think is brilliant about it

https://youtube.com/watch?v=BOCtu-rXfPk

in 09:50 he talks about how technology had restrictions in the past, because our ancestors werent stupid. 

but when you speak bad things about technology its heresy, because its a religion today.

 >>/26226/
Again, it was reviving ancient philosophy that was still available in the middle ages as well as the increase in science and technology. The northern renaissance though, I would agree with. NOT the Protestant Reformation, but the increase in studying Greek philosophy, Kabbalistic texts, and secret societies like the Rosicrucians (proto-freemasons).

 >>/26226/
When it comes to the thing with technology/science and the many "truths" discovered though, Ellul is right.

 >>/25759/
> I mean where did Alexander get all this money to go to war?
He was the son of Philip II, who was the Macedonian King at the time. He also came from a well established noble dynasty. Pretty easy to fund yourself and convince everyone to help you out when you're Old money.

 >>/26247/
so why didnt philip conquered persia?

 >>/26251/
so why didnt philip conquered persia?
He got assassinated before he could carry anything out
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_II_of_Macedon#Assassination

 >>/26269/
Died	October 336 BC (aged 46)

he had 46 years to conquer but he didnt

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 >>/26270/

interesting video, thought you might find it interesting danebernd

https://youtube.com/watch?v=1lF8xzLyTo4

https://youtube.com/watch?v=oIuW-vNQsQI

insane how evil communism really is when you see it

 >>/26284/
 >>/26287/
Will watch.

 >>/26167/
There are some amish people who come into my town to buy food and other things like medicine.
I guess amish who live the way you put it don't exist anymore but there are still people who live a very similar lifestyle.

 >>/26301/
I guess that'd be the conclusion I'd end at on the position of the Amish.

we look at the amish as some strange peoples but just 100 years ago 95% of everyone was living like that. im envious of them

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZnsNNJHGf-Q

interesting video, seems like we are close to something. maybe big world wars? or just a global recession?

watching this video danebernd about buddhism and hinduism and how they seem to stem from the same source

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwnZo9Se-Lc&feature=youtu.be

 >>/26304/
> im envious of them
I sometimes think like that too, but it's kind of a romanticised view. In reality I would probably be fucked without modern conveniences.

 >>/26316/
Early Buddhists were Hindus. It's probably a mix between the original Indo-European religion and the Dravidian animism, though it's likely though that all 12 deity paganism stems from one source (Babel?).
The elites though seem to be obsessed with Hinduism, and it goes all the way back to the Greeks. Portuguese Jesuits became Brahmin in India. The UN founders were all obsessed with Theosophy. Jews influenced their own mysticism using Hindu thought, etc.

 >>/26374/
Im not romanticizing it. Its just that I see that living with nature is the path to happiness. 

https://youtube.com/watch?v=aTb0Rj_O6nw

 >>/26379/
yeah but who created hinduism? did greeks create hinduism?

 >>/26386/
I bet Jews created Hinduism so they can destroy Indo-Euros.

 >>/26385/
Yeah I can sympathise with Kaczynski, just pointing out that theory is different to reality and even though I agree with him, I would never be able to live that way myself since I'm too accustomed to the modern world. Essentially my point is that humans, at least in the first world, have become a domesticated animal.

 >>/26391/
That would explain why Zoroastrianism is getting smaller and smaller by the minute

 >>/26428/
> domesticated animal
all civilizations do this to the people. power is never something nice

 >>/26457/
This is what Varg's unironically right about. Our ancestors were like lions and wolves, while man today is more like a domestic cat.

 >>/26486/
which has just increased alot more the last 70 years or so. there is a reason why sperm levels (in the western world) have dropped 60% since the 50's

 >>/26492/
WECT had ww2 in those times, and sperm level highened up because of that.

 >>/26497/
ehm what. it doesnt work like that.

 >>/26511/
People call it PTSD but war veterans simply adopted war conditions instead of soft civil life. 

In war if you constantly need to be powerful and ready for suprise segs as that chance might be your last chance to impregnate a women therebefore good reason to constantly have high testestorone.

 >>/26524/
im talking about sperm levels

danebernd I seriously recommend this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwnZo9Se-Lc&feature=youtu.be

christ means khristna in sanskrit. its all connected

 >>/26533/
> christ means khristna in sanskrit
The Portuguese thought so on their first contact with Hinduism during Vasco da Gama's 1498 expedition and mistook Indians for Christians. Then as soon as they learned the local languages they realized they were wrong and were dealing with an alien civilization.

 >>/26533/
Krishnam means black in Sanskrit, while "Christ" derives from "Kristos" meaning messiah. Also the same word that "Crisis" derives from.

Also, the "redpill" and "bluepill" are apparently masonic in origin. Red degrees/blue degrees.
> "The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry... It is well enough for the mass of those called Masons, to imagine that all is contained in the Blue Degrees; and whoso attempts to undeceive them will labor in vain." - Albert Pike 33rd Mason
< You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes.

 >>/26742/
That combined with the fact that those guys who made the Matrix became trannies makes it hilariously ironic how popular that terminology is with /pol/ and alt-right autists in general.

 >>/26744/
If anything, they SHOULDN'T take the redpill since it constitutes a Hegalian dialectic (just like left v. right, capitalism v. communism, etc.) which they supposedly oppose.
Matrix also had incredibly Gnostic shit, no wonder their directors became trannies (also, were they jews or just Poles?). 
> Neo Anderson is the saviour
> Neo Anderson = New son of man
> one title of Jesus is the son of man
> literally called "personal Jesus" in the movie
Definitely an Antichrist figure.

 >>/26750/
You make a mistake when you equalize Gnosticism with Masonic "Gnosticism" (or other secret society's Gnosticism). Masons and the others claim they possess the secret truth, The Knowledge, but this is for attracting the suckers, for gaining more members. It's part of their charm, they seem mysterious for the outsiders. They have one secret tho, that they possess no Knowledge.

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 >>/26754/
I don't think he does.

 >>/26756/
These are the guys I'm talking about. These are obvious empty bullcrap. Cryptic symbolism and shit like that. They have as much to do with Gnosticism like neo-pagans with paganism.

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 >>/26757/
They have just as much in common as they need to in order to enthrone physical manifestation of the 'divine feminine' as the ruler of the world.

 >>/26757/
 >>/26756/
As abova so below

follow the true path

*click the link below**

http://www.hermetics.org/

coolest site in the known world

 >>/26777/
> coolest site in the known world
B-but that's endchan/kc...
Also cool numbers you have there. Godly.

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 >>/26778/
 >>/26778/
> B-but that's endchan/kc...
endhcan is not part of known world, this place is a secret club in some unknown dimension.

 >>/26777/
It's not a religion ok? We're not proselytizing, it's a philosophy. People just magically find us when they're ready for the truth tm.

 >>/26754/
 >>/26756/
 >>/26757/
 >>/26759/
 >>/26777/
 >>/26778/
 >>/26779/
 >>/26780/
What just happened?

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 >>/26781/
Due to the unavailability of .xyz we are posting on .org which makes our geolocation appear wrong, I get US now despite I'm Hungarobernd. Previously I got UAE or Saudi or whatever. This is because of CloudFlare I think.
I'm surprised you are still Dane.

 >>/26784/
Originally, my flag appeared as Filipino, though it fixed itself after I reset my router.

 >>/26789/
Are you an Magi?

 >>/26794/
No. "Magi" is a plural word though, correct term is "magus".

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 >>/26818/
Yes. I just tried to accentuate that layer of the meaning of the word that covers the concept of Zoroastrian priest as a nod to the topic discussed above (Gnosticism), and simple magus might would not cut it.

I miss Swedish anon.

 >>/28947/
Maybe when he will get banned for grappaposting again.
> anon
...

Where is Danebernd btw? Raise your hand.

 >>/28950/
I'm Danebernd. Apparently though, my geolocation shows up as France instead of Holland.

 >>/26827/
Shut up gypsy.

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 >>/28952/
> When Danebernd went too far

 >>/28958/
But seriously, I'm actually Danebernd. I told you before I was in the Netherlands, but my geolocation shows up as French.

 >>/28947/
I miss his greetings and Apustaja posting, though tiny details they conveyed joviality to his words.

 >>/28963/
I'm just memeing. I believe you.

 >>/28968/
His casual conversational style was a good addition to /kc/. I didn't mind arguing him, but he is a cunt for leaving, small heda and such. My suspicion is probably right he was banned on Kohl, so he hung out here until that expired.

 >>/28974/
Also he was unnecessarily rude sometimes and an incurable shitposter.

 >>/28974/
Sad! I would bring a couple Türks to make this place lively but quality shitposting would rise up massively and political post would skyrocket so much we wouldnt able to discuss something else. And I'm not fan of discussing politics on chans.

So I won't do that. Speaking of other posters, what if Bogdan is a chatbot? Imagine a Romanian failed project that supposed to used like putinbots on twitter, but eventually he gets misguided and ends up in here. If this is the case how can we fix it, should I contact with romanian presidency?

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 >>/28980/
> what if Bogdan is a chatbot? Imagine a Romanian failed project
My face when...
I have this conspiracy theory that Swebernd is actually Bogdan.

 >>/28981/
Speaking of it, what if you are bot as well to keep this board alive? But it seems you're continuously developing your intelligence. You are too aware my friend.

We must shut down the project. Tell Orban Trianon-461920 has been compromised.

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 >>/28987/
> We must shut down the project.
I'm afraid I can't let you do that, Bernd.

 >>/28981/
No way Sweden is Bogdan.
But him being a chatbot is an intriguing possibility.

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 >>/28968/
 >>/28974/
Yah swedeanon was cool. I liked always having to explain everything to him again and again

 >>/28980/
> what if Bogdan is a chatbot? Imagine a Romanian failed project that supposed to used like putinbots on twitter, but eventually he gets misguided and ends up in here. 

The /kc/ lore gets deeper and deeper every day. 

> If this is the case how can we fix it, should I contact with romanian presidency?

lmao

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 >>/28997/
Consider this:
1. While he was on /kc/ Bogdan didn't post.
2. Bogdan posted as Sweden for a while few years back.
3. At the time Sweden disappeared Bogdan posted with other balls on Kohl, Romanian and Lithuanian in a short time this made me suspect he isn't abroad just uses VPNs, proxies.
4. Swebernd while wasn't explicitly hostile towards me his banter wasn't a "friendly" one.
5. Swebernd started a thread about Transylvania and the Romanian-Hungarian opposition.
6. On Kohl I think a Texan started  the "who is the most unfortunate nation on Earth, and why is the Hungarian the one" thread which was fun as other nationalities (I remember German, Ukro and Armenian) claimed they are, until Bogdan showed up and started to sperging out. Then he was banned and a Sweball appeared, quipped at Hungarians and pretended he doesn't know this Bogdan person despite his well known shitposter status.

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 >>/29003/
Things get more interesting by the minute here. What will happen next is anyone's guess

 >>/29013/
Disclaimer:
I don't really believe Swebernd is Bogdan, the latter just doesn't care to go "undercover" and open in his enmity all the time, and doesn't have reason to do so.
However I think me replying in contrarian tone all the time to whatever he wrote might tuned Swebernd against Hungarians, tho I don't think I was spiteful it's just I was mostly disagreed with him. Mostly he just wanted to "funpost" and I'm not entirely sure which posts of him was dead serious and which aren't.

 >>/25729/
Don't forget the most important one:
> hungarians are gypsies

 >>/29016/
Or maybe nobody can stand you insufferable gypsies. Whine some more about Trianon, turd.

 >>/29016/
Yeah I know man. We're just having some light hearted fun

 >>/29041/
Likewise I recognized that it was fun, still I did right to wrote the disclaimer, in certain things clarification should be done and I couldn't do it spoilered for screenshotting purposes. I just shouldn't have post that as a reply to you.

 >>/29053/
What you should have done is to kill yourself, gypsy.

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 >>/28981/
What if Philip Manshaus (the Oslo mosque "shooter") was Swedebernd all along, what if he was actually Norwegian?

 >>/29098/
All those pro Norwegian killers and we had to get the failure... I bet he won't even produce a black metal album while he's in the hive.

Now that we are at Varg again (he was mentioned itt once) we should also turn back the discussion toward the original point.
From what I gather Varg basically says the same as amish, with a little alteration here and there. No?

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 >>/29102/
Hang on, wasn't he a Jehovah's Witness? Picrel, he has a Bible on his table. Swebernd was obsesed with Panama hats, are there any links with Manshaus to that?
 >>/29104/
Basically Amish, but plus permaculture, minus the Bible, minus all the technological restrictions (he uses a Macbook).

 >>/29108/
Manshaus was Waldorf schooled. Those guys care about the children personality, ego, wishes and opinions, they grew them so the kids will believe themselves. This explains Manshaus unwarranted self-importance being a chosen one and has the right to choose others and believes he can change shit with shooting up a mosque.
Swebernd's chase of Panama hats was for himself. He didn't want that as a good representation of Sweden and Sweballs but because he liked it personally, for selfish reasons.

I started to like Varg. Just the mentioning of his name creates a shitstorm on Kohl. How one person can make a large chunk of Bernds butthurt it's amazing. Him and Lindybeige. These two guys are great.

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 >>/29109/
> Manshaus was Waldorf schooled. Those guys care about the children personality, ego, wishes and opinions, they grew them so the kids will believe themselves. This explains Manshaus unwarranted self-importance being a chosen one and has the right to choose others and believes he can change shit with shooting up a mosque.
> Swebernd's chase of Panama hats was for himself. He didn't want that as a good representation of Sweden and Sweballs but because he liked it personally, for selfish reasons.
Oh no... Could we be onto something?
> Lindybeige
Who? I keep hearing of this guy on the boards.

 >>/29110/
> Lindybeige
Bri'ish youtuber. I think he has degree in archaeology. He has opinions and he shares it. Berndxperts find his opinion stupid and instead of moving on with their lives they sperging out for hours. Because liek he calls MG-42 "Spandau" and shit liek that.

 >>/29111/
Seems like a sore thumb when it comes to all these neo-"history" YouTube channels. 
I can't count how many of them have went against their own audience because they hated "Nazis".

 >>/29112/
I dunno I don't really follow historical channels. I watch a video sometimes. I know about a couple like the fat Austrian larper Shadiversty or the other bri'ish Scholarlygladiatoria, awrite. And a few others I don't remember the names.
My problem with them (with Lindy too for that matter and most of the tube channels seems to walk in the same shoe) that they have this "now I tell you how it WAS, coz I am infallible" style. Even when they tell it in advance that we actually don't really know how it was, they still have this vibe. Every time I write here something I hope I don't sound like them, kek.

 >>/29115/
> Respect my mah lack of authority!

Yeah. Think you get a pass.

 >>/29116/
Get an onion.

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 >>/29111/
> Berndxperts find his opinion stupid and instead of moving on with their lives they sperging out for hours.
Just Bernd being Bernd.

 >>/29109/
Also, notice how the way they both type is similar?

 >>/29210/
Can't judge it, Manshaus wrote very little.

Amish are pure.

Just ate an amish food.

 >>/31533/
Was it corn?

 >>/31550/
No it was pulled pork.  The Amish make and sell the best food around.

 >>/31551/
> the Bible is all they read
> they still don't follow dietary restrictions
Protip: The secret to getting physically fit is to eat only the clean animals as per Leviticus.

 >>/31576/
Fjf.
Pigs can be clean. Also they pretty smart I bet they can be house-trained just like dogs.

 >>/31577/
Not as per Leviticus (and definitely not the wild boar which most pigs were in ancient times). Though technically unclean isn't this modern definition we have:
https://biblehub.com/hebrew/strongs_2931.htm

 >>/31576/
These pigs are definitely cleaner than all the beef and turkey in normal shithole grocery stores, you can taste the difference and you pay for it too.

 >>/31581/
On that link there isn't really a definition of unclean.
Wild boars are more clean than those kept at house in pigsty, tho it depends on circumstances, for example they might eat carcass if that's what they have. I think to cannibalism the pigsty kept are the more prone, due to stress related anomalies.
The best are those which are kept on pastures. Like they usually do with mangalica (did nowadays many of them kept at house).

 >>/25867/
 >>/25877/
Commenting on this 6 months later, the royal families are actually part-jewish (and since this was a long time ago, this would mean a large portion of English people themselves are part-jewish), and this is mainstream history by the way. Ebalus, the Duke of Aquitaine was called "Ebalus the Mamzer". Mamzer was used in Latin to describe illegitimate mixed-race children including that of jews. Later on Robert the duke of Normandy married
https://standpointmag.co.uk/issues/may-2016/counterpoints-may-2016-joshua-gelernter-william-the-conqueror-was-jewish/
Also Ferdinand and Isabella had jewish ancestry. 
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/6083-ferdinand-and-isabella
Since all European nobility descends from these guys, they're part-jewish. Not any infiltration by certain lines, just from bastardry. The dukes of Normandy and Aquitane were already part-jewish, so when the German noble Albert II (ha, literally called Albert the Degenerate) married both the daughter of Frederick II (had Norman descent and inherited Norman Sicily) and Isabella of 
That's the gist of the jewishness of European nobility, proven by only mainstream sources. Obviously things were going on before that (especially in Hellenistic times with the Phoenicians, and probably even before that with the Sea Peoples:  >>/25759/  >>/25760/) but this is about modern nobility here.

 >>/32951/
*Isabella of England
And from then on, all European noble dynasties meet, and they all descend from the dukes of Normandy.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread779618/pg1

 >>/32951/
The same can be said of pretty much anyone, somewhere down the line it's pretty much guaranteed that you had a Jewish ancestor of some kind unless you are Asian or Black.

 >>/32953/
Come on, blacks? Persian jews and Yemenites went south to sub-Saharan Africa and became the "Shirazi" (which Obama probably descends from since he's Kenyan) and Lemba people.
Obviously American Indians are a better example (the more isolated tribes, not mutts like the Cherokee etc.) Some English people don't even descend from royalty at all, and are practically completely English. Ditto for Scandinavia. Obviously you're not going to see a bunch of jewish mixture in eastern Finns and Karelians.

 >>/32955/
Africa is a big place and has been undeveloped for a long time, it's likely that many would have no Jewish blood at all.

> Some English people don't even descend from royalty at all, and are practically completely English. 

Doesn't matter, most Jews were not part of the nobility either. In the same way that one Jewish noble bastard could be a distant ancestor to many nobles, one burgher bastard, mixed race burger or whatever could be a distant relative to many in Britain.

> Ditto for Scandinavia. Obviously you're not going to see a bunch of jewish mixture in eastern Finns and Karelians.


I probably exaggerated a bit. Maybe not all whites, particularly not Finns. Having said that these things can still spread so its not impossible but just less likely.

 >>/32951/
> a large portion of English people themselves are part-jewish
The English nobility has always been a tiny fraction of the population, even the Normans who turned the entire civilization of the isles upside down were only a few thousand. And because of the class system their intermarriage with the plebs was limited. Add to that the small number of Jews which existed in England through the ages compared to the population as a whole and the Jewish genetic imprint in England is microscopic.

 >>/32958/
Aren't like 50% of all English people descended from King John?

 >>/32960/
They say that pretty much everybody in Eastern Europe is descended from Genghis Khan as well. I think it's exaggerated as there is much they don't account for with these things but it still would be a great number who are related to him. however, even if they were a descended of his it would be so diluted so as to be basically meaningless, same with the Jews in Europe. Yes we probably are distantly related to them but by now that doesn't mean anything.

 >>/32951/
As for William: sometimes he was called Mamzer because at that times those who wrote that used this word for bastards. These guys were Jewish. That doesn't mean he was Jewish. It's liek if I called him fattyú that wouldn't make him Hungarian.
> In Europe, it may have entered the vernacular
Did it? I would expect good Catholics distance themselves of Jewish expressions, especially in those times. And (many) hundreds of years later it doesn't matter.

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 >>/32962/
> They say that pretty much everybody in Eastern Europe is descended from Genghis Khan as well.

Mongols weren't colonizers, so their influence on local population is exaggerated. They just suppressed all local opposition and put some noble local in charge to get the tribute. At least in poor non-nomadic lands like Eastern Europe in these times. 

Funny that this structure with locals collecting tribute from other locals still remain and operate, although without Mongols, I guess you know what country it is about.

Also, Eastern Europe was raided by Mongols in times when only second generation of Genghis Khan kids were alive, so they weren't widespread. Of course he had strong genetic footprint, especially on some Asian populations, but saying this about Eastern Europe is too much.

 >>/32990/
Nah, it came centuries before in the Latin Vulgate. Jerome kept "Mamzer" as the word for bastard in Deuteronomy 23. It's not farfetched that it was used for jewish mongrels.

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Really can't get what's happening in that image

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 >>/32999/

Just an assembly of Mongolian national-socialists.

 >>/32998/
http://jewishmag.com/175mag/septimania_jewish_kingdom/septimania_jewish_kingdom.htm
> All now came clear. So this was why Pepin had required that the King of Septimania be a direct descendant of King David! The problem for Pepin, and for his son, King Charles, was that Pepin had usurped the throne of the Franks from the Merovingians, and thus there was no royal blood in their veins. This they desperately needed in order to establish the legitimacy of their dynasty. By this marriage of Alda to Machir, who was a direct lineal descendant of King David, they would not only have royal blood in the veins of their descendants, but the most royal blood possible, the blood of David himself!
> But how could such a marriage take place? Alda was Catholic, and no Catholic priest would marry her to a Jew unless the Jew converted, which of course Machir absolutely could not do. On the other hand, no rabbi would marry Machir to a gentile unless she converted. An unsolvable dilemma? Apparently not, for marry they did, and had a legitimate son through whom Jewish blood now was intermingled with that of the Carolingian kings of France. How was this possible? History is silent. There was a way that perhaps it could be accomplished, based on the customs of the time. Whether in fact this way was used is purely speculative.
> King Charles now called upon Machir to participate with him in his great campaign to drive the Moors from northern Spain. Have I mentioned that King Charles is better known as Charlemagne? No, I have not. But this is who he was, which means that Charlemagne had a Jewish uncle, and the Jewish kings of Septimania were related by blood to the Carolingian kings of France.
On the jewish kingdom of Septimania.

 >>/33007/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cagot
> The origins of both the term "Cagots" (and "Agotes", "Capots", "Caqueux", etc.) and the Cagots themselves are uncertain. It has been suggested that they were descendants of the Visigoths, and the name Cagot derives from caas (dog) and "Goth". 
They insulted the Goths of Septimania as "cagots" i.e. "Gothic dogs".

 >>/33007/
I still yet to read that Ferdinand and Isabella article, so not sure when will have the time. But I see this in that article:
> Septimania had a large Jewish population
At the time the largest Jewish populations were in the East Mediterranean cities, their number were in the lower thousands per city. In the West that was the tenth of it. I get these numbers from The New Cambridge Medieval History, Volume 4 So how many of them could have been in the whole Septimania? 2000? Tho I do agree that their economical weight and political influence were larger than the number would indicate (as usual).
> descendant of King David
These descendants are no more than a legends. To be honest David himself isn't much more - even if he really were his person and glory was highly inflated.
But again I'm not close to read the article and think on it.
I like the theory that the Hungarians are the lost tribe of Israel better.

 >>/33010/
 >>/33010/
> These descendants are no more than a legends. To be honest David himself isn't much more - even if he really were his person and glory was highly inflated.
true. it's kinda funny people overrely on jewish mytologies. it's just a mytology after all.

 >>/32951/
Okey. So the Jewish Encyclopedia says that Ferdinand's granma was the Jewess Paloma of Toledo, on the other hand Wikipee says she was Mariana Fernández de Córdoba y Ayala, a noblewoman. The J.E. was written long time ago, many sources were "discovered" since then. Maybe that prescott book is on archive.org. Will check.

> hungarians are gypsies

Haha, what a timing. Freshly stolen from Kohl, I'm posting for later read.
https://blog.myheritage.com/2019/08/hungarys-secret-new-study-by-myheritage/

 >>/33010/
> At the time the largest Jewish populations were in the East Mediterranean cities, their number were in the lower thousands per city. In the West that was the tenth of it. I get these numbers from The New Cambridge Medieval History, Volume 4 So how many of them could have been in the whole Septimania? 2000? Tho I do agree that their economical weight and political influence were larger than the number would indicate (as usual).
The entirety of Iberia and southern France had a large jewish population. Around 10% of Spain was jewish at the time, wasn't it? The population just wasn't as big as in the eastern Mediterranean, so that's why it doesn't appear so. Septimania is right inside that area. 
> These descendants are no more than a legends. To be honest David himself isn't much more - even if he really were his person and glory was highly inflated.
David was historical (Tel Dan stele proves that there was an actual "House of David" that ruled Israel) and considering his son had 700 wives, it's not surprising to see so many people claim descent. 
> I like the theory that the Hungarians are the lost tribe of Israel better.
Lost tribe of Israel? I thought it was Jesus being a Hungarian because Parthians were Hungarians or something. 
 >>/33024/
Oy vey! Don't Poland and Portugal have the largest crypto-jewish descended populations? I blame the Catholics for this.

 >>/33025/
> Lost tribe of Israel? I thought it was Jesus being a Hungarian because Parthians were Hungarians or something. 
That too. The idea of the lost tribe was put forward by Jewish historian of Hungary I think in the late 19th or early 20th century. Will look up details, it's somewhat obscure.

 >>/33025/
> Oy vey! Don't Poland and Portugal have the largest crypto-jewish descended populations? I blame the Catholics for this.
Can confirm this. As every Catholic, I'm a direct descendant of Abraham.

 >>/33025/
 >>/33032/
So. The idea that the Hungarians were/are Jews was put forward by Kohn Sámuel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Kohn) who wrote two books on the topic of the history of the Jews in Hungary. Well, the first book is actually a collection of Hebrew sources, but the second book contains parts which makes him a considerable pioneer in the research of the Khazar Khaganate. While I not yet can quote him on this but it seems he wrote that as the subject of the Khaganate, the Hungarians were also Jewish and they conquered the Carpathian Basin as Izraelites.

Somewhat related the figure of Kestler Artúr (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Koestler) who also wrote some stuff of Khazaria and proposed the idea - which you already familiar with - that the Ashkenazi are not semitic in origin, but Turkic. In his book, the Thirteenth Tribe, he writes that the Jews of Central Eastern Europe genetically are closer to Hun, Ugric and Hungarian tribes than to the progeny of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

I'll try and get both books.

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 >>/33007/
 >>/33014/
 >>/33039/

> some noble family descended from Jews

It can be just a part of historical myth.

Religion, especially in past, wasn't separated from history, and concept of tracing your lineage from some religious figure was very popular. It is like translatio imperii applied to heritage.

For example, Romulus and Remus (both already mythological) were traced as descendants of Aeneas and so they were noble Trojans. Of course this wasn't original story, just a late influence of Greek culture.

Same with Christianity. When mainstream changed, people started to rewrite their founding stories to conform the new "true" history that was written in the Bible. So, Christian nations started to trace their history from some tribes of Israel, noble families - from famous biblical people etc.

It was pretty widespread thing, sometimes even too crazy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Israelism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese-Jewish_common_ancestry_theory

So, it isn't good to trust many sources about Jewish connection and nobility just because worldview in past was pretty different. And you always need to consider that these mythical ancestors were biblical "Jews", noble chosen people from legends, not contemporary (for medieval times) strange bearded people from isolated city communities, who didn't believe in proper Jesus. It doesn't even matter if David was real or not.

 >>/33039/
 >>/33052/
Speaking of this, though it's mostly just something the English tried to claim about us: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Israelism
An essay on this whole connection:
http://www.originofnations.org/books,%20papers/Denmark%20and%20the%20Tribal%20Question.pdf
The "Dan" in "Danmark" by the way isn't etymologically like any of these however as far as we know. It's actually the same word as "den" or "cave" in English. 
Also something interesting to note which confirms the legends of Greek descent for the Danes:
https://dienekes.blogspot.com/2013/05/links-between-mycenaeans-and-scandinavia.html
> For example, Romulus and Remus (both already mythological
No, Romulus and Remus were real people as well. Romulus was the first Roman king. Just a lot of legend surrounding them which corrupts their actual history.

 >>/33052/
Also
> Japanese-Jewish_common_ancestry_theory
Well that explains a lot.

 >>/33060/
During the night I woke up briefly and thought that Finns are forest people, Slavs are marsh people, Hungarians and Turkics are steppe people but what are Germanics. What you wrote makes sense.
> No, Romulus and Remus were real people as well.
You're forgetting Romanus, the third of the brothers. But instead of drinking the milk of the mommy wolf like his bros, he sucked the dick of daddy wolf. Like how Romanians suck the Romans' dick. This is why it is called dick of Roman or Dik-o-Roman theory...

 >>/29109/
Apparently, Manshaus posted on 4chan /int/ before the server, on the Norwegian thread, he was called "bibelversanon" (Bible verse anon)
https://desuarchive.org/int/thread/114837952/#114868417
> begge hadde gulfeber
> begge hadde oppsǿkt læstadianere
> begge var idioter
> bibelversanon sluttet å breve på dagen etter angrepet
In English
> both had yellow fever
> both sought out Laestadians
> both were idiots
> Bible verse anon stopped posting after the offense

 >>/33069/
That's an interesting tidbit.
Why was he called bibelvesanon? He quoted the Bible frequently?

 >>/33070/
Presumably so. He would just post Bible quotes in the thread when he left. 
https://desuarchive.org/int/search/text/bibelvers%20%20Daier/
These are his posts I guess. This is what it would start with:
> Natta tråden! Her er et bibelvers og noen daier, så er der noe for alle.
< Night, thread! Here is a Bibleverse and a (girl with) tits, so there is something for all. 
And then he'd quote it.

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 >>/33060/
> No, Romulus and Remus were real people as well. Romulus was the first Roman king. Just a lot of legend surrounding them which corrupts their actual history.

Yes, maybe he was real. A lot of mythological figures have real prototypes. But legend may be so different so it is ok to consider real Romulus and that legendary Romulus as different entities, depending on context of discussion of course.

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Some revelations that just came to me a few days ago:
> alcoholism is caused by excessive masturbation
> all the mystery schools are rooted around several things, one of them is literally worshipping poo 
I'm not so sure about the first, but I'm definitely sure about the second. Shit was said to be a fertiliser by ancient southern animists, the early Romans not only recognised it as part of agriculture, they even deified it as Sterquilinus. Some Egyptians also apparently worshipped shit. 
That's why India was taught to poo in the loo a few years back. Shit gives to earth, earth gives to cows, and Hindus worship cows. 
Plus, why do you think "holy shit" was popularised as a term? Because the people at hollywood actually worship it. Disgusting.

 >>/33459/
That depends how do you define masturbation.
Well shit does fertilize the soil. It can be considered as the pure matter, so those who don't know spiritual, worship material, in a sense worship shit.

 >>/33460/
Ejaculation caused by stimulation using the hand.

 >>/33466/
So the very literary meaning. Hmm. How do you justify that causing alcoholism? Shouldn't be more alcoholic then? Or it has to reach a chronic level?

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 >>/33466/
If it's someone else's hand then it's a handjob, you should have specified that.

 >>/33492/
This is a good point.
If someone else does it, would it influence alcoholism?

 >>/33475/
> excessive masturbation leads to less social interaction as it's caused by some form of loneliness to begin with
> more loneliness leads to you feeling like there's nothing to work towards
> alcohol is used to escape this
> it just makes things worse since you have nobody to enjoy it with
> now you feel even worse and try to reverse it, but you just can't find the root

 >>/33504/
I know at least one sociable person, who is quite a womanizer and wanks a lot as well. Ofc he might be the exception I just simply don't know too many people's habits to judge that. I know however that generally sociable and fairly successful men masturbates the same as lone ones. Those with partners, and even married ones do the same. In company I heard not one occasion wives telling how they caught their husbands doing do deed and were surprised to know that they do it all the time these ladies weren't hasty telling their own masturbational habits tho.
And on the other side, sociable people, with friends and grills around can also cultivate alcoholism just the same as lonely ones. Then alcoholism could lead to social isolation as they may slip down the slope, losing jobs, wealth, family etc. But there are several types of alcoholics, some just always need to have a little buzz but don't need to drink themselves snotty drunk.
From what I read on imageboards, many anons masturbate excessively - if their statements can be believed -, and many others (and more than likely the same ones) suffers some kind of addiction from games to drugs. So basically wanking is another addiction. I think it's just they have no other meaningful things to do.
I also believe if they were taken out of their place, circumstances, situation and were given a daily routine, tasks, and a new lifestyle that would help them a lot. Maybe we should create a foundation getting Soros to sponsor us and make a rehab for chan users.

I think drinking (alcohol) can lead to alcoholism.

 >>/33508/
Even sociable people often have times where they just choose to stay alone and thus get their habit for masturbation. I don't think it's drinking alone that leads to alcoholism, but drinking as a result of loneliness.

 >>/33513/
While masturbation usually happens when one is alone, I dunno if alone time has to do much with it. Ofc human beans tend to favor privacy, but primates for example do it openly. Our habit comes from social norms, the instinct to do it is more primal.
Masturbation and drinking are similar surrogate activities how is it called in English when one do something useless instead of doing what he has to do, I don't think of procrastination, while has similar effect, so it's rather correlation than causation.
Drinkers has five types/levels: occasional drinker, drinker, occasional heavy drinker, heavy drinker, alcoholic. The occasional ones almost exclusively drink socially. The other two mostly. An alcoholic will most definitely drink alone, great many times, and depending on his situation he can entirely.
I do agree alcohol is used by people to medicate away problems, one such is loneliness. But as I wrote in this regards is liek masturbation, they do it to make themselves feel temporarily good, instead of fixing their problem (loneliness).

I think I got a positive ID on the Swedebernd here: Here he calls Sweden a "lobotomized nwo country"  >>/25753/ while linking to Miles Mathis. Turns out that he posts on a Wordpress site called "Cutting Through the Fog" and so does a Swede called "Idontuseacar", who types the same and even uses the same term for Sweden:
https://cuttingthroughthefog.com/2018/11/09/current-events-discussion-thread/comment-page-28/#comment-49210
> Sweden the most lobotomized nwo country in the world is doing pretty much the reverse of everyone with regards to corona virus. And im baffled to say the least. The country is not doing a lock down, but the borders are closed apparently, but not for asylum seekers. Everything is open, only real difference ive seen is that buses dont open at the front. And that in some shops ive seen that the toilet paper are gone.
Let's bring him back!

 >>/35673/
How to approach him on the comment section without drawing in anyone else? I think just mentioning "End/kc/" will get the message without attracting keins.

 >>/35676/
I guess? It's small though, so people might find it suspicious (which I totally understand, it's just that this board really is mostly innocuous).
By the way, apparently your comments need to be processed by the admin if you haven't posted there already. So it might be a good idea to just make a few comments first, and then reply to him.

 >>/35676/
Are you on it in any way?

 >>/35679/
I'm in favor but haven't done anything yet.

 >>/35680/
Okay, but if you're in on this don't mess it up.

He posts on Kohl. He knows this board is here, if he wanted to he could have post here too.
If you guys want to contact him, it needs to be done cleverly. If we hint we know him, he might get confused, or get spooked. He might bail, might investigate, might find it bullying.
We could ask him a couple of questions. Simple and innocent ones, which the admin would approve, and which might further confirm his identity. It has to be related to the topic on some level. For example we could confirm if that particular poster really is Swedish. Yeah, that "lobotomized nwo country" is a giveaway but maybe Swebernd and Idontuseacar are two people who read the idiom elsewhere, liked, and decided to use that themselves.

 >>/35682/
Idontuseacar is Swedish though. You can derive that just from typing in "site:cuttingthroughthefog.com idontuseacar" on any search engine and in the first result he posts:
> Nice to see a fellow swede here
> btw tesla smells like a spook to me
Pretty obviously the same grammar as well, and we've specifically talked of Tesla on this very thread as well. So trying to confirm he's Swedish won't do.

 >>/35683/
I see.
Can registered users send private messages to each other?

 >>/35686/
It's Wordpress, so I guess? Then again, it appears he's a guest user there.

 >>/35687/
How consistently he uses that site?
What's the plan? Writing a secret message into the message that could slip through the admin?

 >>/35688/
The plan? Why try to be so conspicuous about this? Just try it in a way that doesn't ruin the image of this board, but "mask it" with other talk.

Swedebernd has been banned from the forum.
https://cuttingthroughthefog.com/2018/11/09/current-events-discussion-thread/comment-page-29/#comment-49889

 >>/35762/
Classic.

 >>/28974/
I never really left I just took a long coffee break and I rarely went to kohl krautchan 4lyfe

 >>/32951/
you wont find any open hearted discussions about these topics here im afraid (bernds can only replicate) but you are on the right track

 >>/35673/
the kike josh banned me for saying that germ theory is a bunch of lies lol

 >>/36669/
Begs the question: Why does Miles still associate with a jewish man who even has this stereotypical mod-god complex? Here's what he had to defend himself before:
http://mileswmathis.com/pom.pdf
> Honestly, Josh is the toughest call I have had to make in my short career as a Truther.  He admitted from the start he was in Israel, and my gut reaction was to dump him based only on that.  Given what I have been discovering, the odds were very high he was trying to run some sort of confidence trick on me.  However, odds don't always pan out.  Odds can give you a hunch, but they can't provide a final decision.  In Josh's favor he has written two long and well researched papers on Gandhi and Dreyfus, in neither of which could I find any spin.  They were good enough to publish, and I published them.  You will say he just wanted to write those papers so that I didn't do it myself, and that is possible.  But I am still free to research Gandhi and Dreyfus further if I wish.  Josh isn't stopping me.  He has also provided me with other bon mots, rounding out later research I was doing on various topics.  For instance, after reading my paper on Hitler's Genealogy, he pointed me to the article in Der Zeit where later Hitlers changed their names to Hiller.   I found that very useful and added it to the paper.  He has also defended me in various forums.  
But then again, he was calling POM an op in the same article, yet Josh was a part of it. So what's his position on him then?

 >>/36669/
What is he trying to hide?

 >>/36673/
Both josh and miles are jews so take everything they say with a boatload of salt. miles admitted in an article somewhere that he had jewish ancestry

miles has a standard jewish mindset and phenotype, curly hair, very lanky bodytype, then bald once they get older, lazy and entitled (donate to me pls), god complex and doesnt tolerate being questioned. 

usually the hypocricy is the most obvious and easiest to spot, he boasts about not paying taxes whilst ranting on people to tax evade. I read his articles but never accept anything really at face value. the modus operandi usually is to establish some kind of guru status. and lead their followers to nowhere. just look at gerry, he was pretty much booted out because he didnt agree with everything miles had to say. 

and I mean come on can it get more gay than this?

" He has also defended me in various forums. "

gerrys site

http://ancient-spooks.de/index.html

after ive written this stuff im beginning to feel kind of stupid that I even recommended miles writings. 

to answer the australian I think its to shut down any kind of real discussions. for example. if you read a 20 page about some shooting that was possible fake. does it really matters if it was fake or not? and especially if you live outside of usa.

but germ theory oh boy. thats top 3 in fakery imo the last 200 years. 

the older I get the more I think alot of life is pre determined, kind of like stoicism. certain groups of people will behave in a certain way. thats just how it is. and we whites doesnt seem to accept that.

One lazy afternoon day a turtle was swimming happily along a lake. As the turtle was nearing land he heard a scorpion hail it from the muddy shore. A scorpion, being a very poor swimmer, asked the turtle if he would carry him on his back across the lake. The turtle thought it was the craziest thing he ever heard, “Why would I carry you on my back?” he boomed, ‘You’ll sting me while I’m swimming and I’ll drown.”
“My dear turtle friend,” laughed the scorpion, “if I were to sting you, you would drown and I would go down with you and drown as well. Now where is the logic in that?”
The turtle pondered this for a moment, and eventually saw the logic in the scorpion’s statement. “You’re right!” said the turtle with a smile. “Hop on!” So the scorpion climbed aboard and the turtle paddled his big fins in the water. Halfway across the lake the scorpion gave the turtle a big sting, and he started to drown. As they both sank into the water the turtle turned to the scorpion with a tear in his eye. “My dear scorpion friend, why did you sting me? Now we are both going to drown…” the turtle was gasping for air. “Where is the… logic in that?”
“It has nothing to do with logic” the scorpion sadly replied, “it’s just my nature.”

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 >>/37454/
This really SAYS A LOT about society fam


Wouldn't the scorpion just sting the turtle's shell anyway? He wouldn't die because it didn't hit his skin, since his limbs and head would be underwater for swimming and navigating the lake

 >>/37478/
turtles need air yo

that pom site is a real goldmine, heres a good text

https://pieceofmindful.com/2019/09/29/ramblings-sven-svensondr-ross-mckittrick-jaws-birds-and-moral-courage/

""MM, like Rush Limbaugh, has his dittoheads. I know a Limbaugh dittohead who has lived here in southern Indiana all his life, where most people have a slightly Southern dialect, but this guy speaks in Limbaugh’s Chicago dialect and his speech has the same cadences as Limbaugh’s. That’s what I thought about when I read the Sven piece.

(And if it’s a committee or if it’s Miles pretending to be Sven, that makes sense too. Limbaugh’s real function, I think–like so many toxic personalities in the media–is to be a role model. The information doesn’t matter so much as the constant neurotic “us vs. them, me vs. the world” mentality. Mathis provides his own version of that isolating and couterproductive mindset. I suspect Limbaugh mixes real callers in with fake ones and Mathis (or his group) may do the same with guest writers. He is teaching people how to think like him while believing they are thinking for themselves."

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 >>/37484/
> turtles need air yo

Well you got me on that one bernd

 >>/37454/
Here's basically the point of his hypocrisy: there's no real truth and any attempt to oppose the JWO is pointless, you can fuck off to your shed now. Although he called for tax revolts before, in his recent "Where did the Phoenicians go?" paper (the contents of which I basically covered a year before he did, in a way), he says this:
> So if the Semites want to run the world,  I  leave  it  to  them.    I  just  wish  they  would  do  a better  job.    I  really  don't  think  lying  about everything  all  the  time  constitutes  governance.    Robbing  your  neighbors  blind  every  other  month doesn't constitute governance.
< I really don't give a shit about fighting the jews, I'll just tell them to do things better, not that I am one anyways go-guys!
Even Gerry tells you to "judge things yourself". Isn't he a "truth-seeker"? If he were one, why wouldn't he want everyone to believe in the truth? There's some serious alphabet soup going on here. I'm leaning towards Miles both dissuading people from real fakes, and also being in it to laugh at his gullible followers, since he doesn't really seem to be
 >>/37484/
POM might be another similar group with a fake dispute as well, since Josh was a part of it. Come on, Josh is an open jew, and he comes off as a sort of infiltrator, on every side.

 >>/37454/
> if you read a 20 page about some shooting that was possible fake. does it really matters if it was fake or not? and especially if you live outside of usa.
To be fair, some events (like the Lincoln or Olof Palme assassination) do have large ramifications of being exposed. Not so much the Ohio Sate v. Clemson Game, which is an actual paper that Miles wrote:
http://mileswmathis.com/law.pdf